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Apparently, books like this still get published.

Discussion in 'Tilted Life and Sexuality' started by GeneticShift, Sep 25, 2013.

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  1. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

    Location:
    Toronto
    Many of the roles in my household are so contrary to what some would call "traditional family values" (American, mostly) that it would drive them insane. Some aspects they would consider fine; with others, they'd scratch their heads. A driver behind much of it is that I've never really given in to constructed gender roles*, and any possibility of that was obliterated by studying cultural and literary theory in university (much like how shopping never was the same after studying marketing). As for my SO, her mother taught her to never wait for someone to do something for you, so just do it yourself.

    We're both rather independent in many ways, but end up relying on each other for the things we don't like to do or have no interest in doing.

    It's worked so far.

    * For example, I'm not fond of sports or cars or much of the other subject matter in men's shows and magazines (except women, of course), and I'm not particularly "handy" nor wish to be. I don't feel the need or the desire to be in charge of things. My masculine aspects are nuanced and often only materialize in certain contexts, and I don't fear engaging in what some would call feminine activities (actually, these are among my favourite things).
     
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    Baraka_Guru, Sep 26, 2013
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  2. Xerxes

    Xerxes Bulking.

    I apologize in advance ... I had to do it

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    Xerxes, Sep 26, 2013
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  3. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

    Location:
    Toronto
    Xerxes

    I love that movie, and the live musical I went to here in Toronto was simply magical.

    And, yes, I'd love to do what she's doing in that photo.

    As an aside, I find it distressing that many of the things that would be considered normal for a man to do before the 20th century are now considered feminine or "ghey."

    Thank you, homophobic, misogynistic American hypermasculinity!
     
    Baraka_Guru, Sep 26, 2013
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  4. MSD

    MSD Very Tilted

    Location:
    CT
    They're on completely different pages and need to split up and back up from each other for a bit. Neither one of them is at fault, they're just sexually incompatible and nobody is wrong for wanting sex more or less than their partner, and if we as a society were free of traditional gender roles there would be no reason to ask any of those questions or for anyone to feel that they have an obligation to another person or that someone has an obligation to them. They're best friends, soul mates, whatever you want to call it, but whatever their relationship is, it should be one that meets both of their needs. They don't fit neatly into a traditional relationship that they've presumably spent decades being taught is expected of them, and that's how regressive thinking and adherence to tradition hurt everyone.
    Isn't it amazing how understanding each other and being open about our and each others' strengths and weaknesses, needs and desires can make for a successful relationship? Borla and his wife in mostly traditional roles, you and your wife in your mixed roles, Poetry and her ideal partner in their D/S relationship, It's all about agreement and consent.

    That's the problem with this book, it reeks of a lack of real consent.
     
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    MSD, Sep 26, 2013
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  5. DamnitAll

    DamnitAll Wait... what?

    Location:
    Central MD
    Aside from being utterly appalled by the content excerpted from the book in this article, and putting aside the limits to my analytical experience with regard to human psychology, Joe and Melissa strike me as two of the most fundamentally insecure people on the planet. No wonder their relationship is as disturbingly functional as it is.
     
    DamnitAll, Sep 26, 2013
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  6. GeneticShift

    GeneticShift Show me your everything is okay face.

    Location:
    The land of drugs, violence, and 8 Mile Road
    Thank you for being able to articulate what I couldn't. These are my thoughts almost exactly.
     
    GeneticShift, Sep 26, 2013
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  7. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

    Location:
    Toronto
    Case. In. Point.

    26 Hilariously Bad Book Covers
     
    Baraka_Guru, Sep 27, 2013
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  8. Xerxes

    Xerxes Bulking.

    Bad? Not with that attitude!! I really want to read some of those ... this one especially:

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    Xerxes, Sep 27, 2013
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  9. MSD

    MSD Very Tilted

    Location:
    CT
    If you don't think this cover is awesome there's something seriously wrong with you
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    MSD, Sep 27, 2013
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