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Old 05-15-2004, 10:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Greatest rifle of all time?

What is the greatest rifle of all time and why?

My vote is for the M1 Garand. It is a well balanced weapon that provides an excellent effective range of a larger caliber round.

The M1 Garand saw service for over 40yrs and is still the cerimonial weapon of choice for the United States Armed Services.

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Old 05-15-2004, 10:36 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm going to have to say the m14. A history comparable to that of the garand, but with greater accuracy, reliability, and is still being used both in service and competitively today.
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Old 05-15-2004, 10:50 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 05-16-2004, 08:41 AM   #4 (permalink)
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That depends a lot on qualifications (are we going for accuracy? longevity? cost effectiveness? etc), but for an all around best rifle, I would also say the M14. Superior accuracy and range to the M16 and M1, more durable than many rifles, and a good deal of history to it. It's got a lot of things going for it.

It is relatively effective as both an assault weapon and a sharpshooter weapon (when it needs to be), in addition to its standard mid range applications. All around, a very good rifle.
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Old 05-17-2004, 07:19 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Best rifle? At what? That is like asking "What is the best tool?". A carpenter may say a hammer while a mechanic may say a wrench. There are so many types of rifles and so many applications that it is apples, oranges, and kumquats.
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Old 05-23-2004, 05:51 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Lee Enfield - used by the British in 2 World Wars - Its probably better than the SA80 they are using now !
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Old 05-30-2004, 05:32 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Anything is better than an SA80 - belive me.

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Old 05-30-2004, 07:04 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Old 05-30-2004, 07:27 AM   #9 (permalink)
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M-14's are great rifles, good accuracy, and uses a larger round than the M-16. But it is also much heavier, and the ammunition weighs more which makes it even more of a pain to carry extra ammo. If I had a choice I would take the M-4 over it.
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Old 06-21-2004, 12:47 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Thanks Cannibal and Unleashed, it's nice to know that Lee Endfield is well represented. My dad's is a beaut.
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Old 06-22-2004, 03:00 AM   #11 (permalink)
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M-14 and variants.
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Old 06-22-2004, 09:37 AM   #12 (permalink)
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maybe not be the greatest of all time, but it has left a soft place in my heart and bruise on my shoulder:

Winchester Model 1886 rifle

not only the rifle that tamed the west, but it looks great wheeling around in john wayne's hands when he crosses the field in 'true grit'
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Old 06-22-2004, 10:21 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Old 06-23-2004, 01:40 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I don't think that the MP5 could fit in here but it would have my vote.... but since i cant say it i would say the M16
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Old 06-23-2004, 02:15 AM   #15 (permalink)
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maybe not be the greatest of all time, but it has left a soft place in my heart and bruise on my shoulder:

Winchester Model 1886 rifle

not only the rifle that tamed the west, but it looks great wheeling around in john wayne's hands when he crosses the field in 'true grit'
Amen, brother! I concur.
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Old 06-23-2004, 09:06 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I vote for the AK-47 and its variants. Cheap, easy to clean, and can take a beating and still work. Plus it's got that badass look.
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Old 06-24-2004, 08:00 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Amen, brother! I concur.
if only for us two, i gotta quote it:

Robert Duvall: "Rooster Cogburn, that's bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!

The Duke: "Fill your hand you sonofabitch!"

easily one of the greatest moments ever captured on film.
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Old 06-24-2004, 09:52 AM   #18 (permalink)
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if only for us two, i gotta quote it:

Robert Duvall: "Rooster Cogburn, that's bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!

The Duke: "Fill your hand you sonofabitch!"

easily one of the greatest moments ever captured on film.
A true classic. The Western Channel runs True Grit quite a bit. It's almost to the point of being like Rocky Horror in my house where we say the lines somtimes ;-)
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Old 06-25-2004, 02:46 PM   #19 (permalink)
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M14 gets my vote. A close second would be the AR15 with the pink furniture.
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Old 06-28-2004, 04:41 PM   #20 (permalink)
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I would have to say the M14. Superior accuracy, great range, and shoots a helluva round. I love my M16, but I would take an M14 for all general purpose rifle shooting.
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Old 06-28-2004, 04:46 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I am not an expert, but I would say the M1 Garand or Winchester Model 64.
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Old 06-28-2004, 05:42 PM   #22 (permalink)
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if only for us two, i gotta quote it:

Robert Duvall: "Rooster Cogburn, that's bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!

The Duke: "Fill your hand you sonofabitch!"

easily one of the greatest moments ever captured on film.
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A true classic. The Western Channel runs True Grit quite a bit. It's almost to the point of being like Rocky Horror in my house where we say the lines somtimes ;-)
I can just picture him in my mind, riding across the field with the reins in his teeth, rifle in one hand, revolver in the other, and blowing the hell out of the bad guys.

Thanks for the quote, gibingus.
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Old 07-26-2004, 05:16 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I have a soft spot for the garand (where my collar bone use to be). It's in my mind the last true rifle before everything became portable machine guns
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Old 07-29-2004, 06:03 PM   #24 (permalink)
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personally, I have a fondness of the Heckler-Koch G36 if for no other reason than it's versatility. It's got more options and forms for specific tasks that you'd be hard pressed to be in a situation where this gun couldn't be suited. Whether you're in the field or are in CBQ, this rifle can adapt to ensure the advantage. Or at least that's my opinion on it.
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Old 07-30-2004, 08:28 AM   #25 (permalink)
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The M1 is called my many the greatest weapon man has ever known.
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Old 08-02-2004, 09:45 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Ak-47....that thing will be around forever.
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Old 08-05-2004, 01:44 AM   #27 (permalink)
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The AK, including variants, and the SKS impress the hell out of me. I've seen a video where a guy pours gatorade into the chamber of an SKS, then with the bolt open, buries it in dirt and lets it sit for a few. He then picked it up, wedged a round into the chamber, slammed the bolt closed and actually fired the damn thing.

In another video I saw where the Russians were testing the durability of either the AK103 or AK107 (I forget which), they dropped it from the roof of a three story building onto a street, and then a UAZ (Russian jeep) runs over it. Seconds later, a soldier picks up the weapon and fires it full auto. Now that, friends, is a reliable weapon.

Also, I have found in my experiances, that the AK47 is not much less accurate than the M16. I think the popular idea that the AK47 can't hit the broad side of a barn is because it is such a prolific weapon, and sees heavy use in third-world armies and militias. With proper care, mantinence and training, it's not too shabby.
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Old 08-06-2004, 09:47 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Israeli Military Industries Galil Assault Rifle

Yeah, thats the best
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Old 08-10-2004, 12:32 AM   #29 (permalink)
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If the Galil is so great, then why do the majority of the IDF use m16s and m4s?
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Old 08-10-2004, 04:51 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Becuase they get them for free from the US government.
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Old 08-10-2004, 11:07 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Hands down, it's gotta be the Wincchester Model 1894. The 30-30 lever action rifle is deadly accurate and the best damn deer rifle of all time...
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Old 08-10-2004, 12:46 PM   #32 (permalink)
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In the words of Samuel L. Jackson:

"AK-47, when you've absolutely gotta kill every muthafucka in the room - Accept no substitutes."
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Old 08-10-2004, 10:32 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Becuase they get them for free from the US government.
Where did you see this? Do you have a link?
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Old 08-11-2004, 06:29 PM   #34 (permalink)
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AK-47 What other gun has made it onto nations flags?
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Old 08-11-2004, 10:27 PM   #35 (permalink)
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I don't know why anyone would ever vote for the m-16, the guns jams like a sob, its unreliable. . . To name off a few very good rifles Id like the start with the AK-47- A beautiful weapon, may not be the most accurate, but this baby packs a punch. You can take this gun underwater, cover it in mud and it will still fire. (hold the m-16 the wrong way and it will jam). So for its reliability and stomping power I vote AK.

My second gun of choice, would probably have to be the garand. Ok Ok, its not accurate. . . .a bitch to reload. But DAMN this gun is fun to shoot. So comming up in second is the Garand.

My 3rd place vote has to go to the. . . .umm. . . .. im gonna go out on a limb here and vote for the M-14, this gun is a semi-automatic badass. Accurate and imo think that the m-14 should have never been replaced during vietnam. So for its accuracy and power, the m-14 gets my third place choice.


A worthy mention of EVERY single Heckler-Koch gun also.



PS: Im Canadian, but our army has a contract with our arms dealer. I HIGHLY doubt you get the rifles for free. Colt is the supplys most of your rifles doesnt it? I would think that the army has some type of deal with them. I dont think they come from the government

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Old 08-17-2004, 05:07 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Gotta say, the Garand proved itself in the hardest conditions possible. And on the opposite end, the m-16 proved it can jam easy and is useless with the wrong ammo. Given the right ammo and heavy barrel, its a pleasure to shoot and accurate as hell.
 
Old 08-26-2004, 01:20 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Heckler & Koch G3, has been the standard weapon in the german army for about 40 years. Unfortunately, i had to use its succeeding model, the G36 when i had my basic training in the Bundeswehr. Not a bad rifle either, but the G3 was just a real rifle, made of steel, not like the G36 which is of a carbon material.
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Old 08-26-2004, 09:16 AM   #38 (permalink)
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Duh... the Garand
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Old 08-26-2004, 10:30 AM   #39 (permalink)
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Was split between 3...

M1 Garand for obvious reasons

AK47 and variants for being one of the most reliable automatic rifles ever and may be in use years from now

Mauser 98 - because among bolt actions, this is simply one of the most beautiful ever made and reliable as well
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Old 08-28-2004, 09:53 PM   #40 (permalink)
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Yup....The Garand. It's record speaks for itself.
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