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Menoman · 09-12-2003, 12:06 AM

In Ohio theres law saying you cannot use a "Rifle" for hunting(Muzzleloaders are classified as primitive weaponry so they don't count)

So, you cannot use a .357 longrifle.

You can however use a .55 calibur inline muzzleloader.

Check out the bullet speed, velocity, footpounds of killing power at 100/200/300 yards. The Muzzleloader outdoes the .357 in almost every single way.

I think its very silly and I've Emailed Ohio Wildlife Division many times on this. /sigh

If you live in ohio take a look at the specs for yourself and then Email them also if you feel its a silly law.

Post your opinions here also if you want.

1337haxor · 09-12-2003, 08:39 AM

yeah but a muzzleloader is a single shot while rifles can be bolt action or semiautomatic
harder to do repeated shots with a muzzleloader
that my theory on why its like that

Menoman · 09-12-2003, 04:37 PM

If thats the only reason why then they should legalize it also. You can use a .357 pistol and fire off 3 shots in less then 3 seconds.

Moonduck · 09-12-2003, 08:11 PM

It has to do with technology, and primarily that surrounding repeat shots. Much of modern day hunting capacity/firearm restrictions (blackpowder, plugs in shotguns limiting capacity, etc) comes from so-called Company Hunters in the Depression era. These were men that were paid to go out to duck ponds, woods, etc, and procure large amounts of game for meat processors. They would use high-capacity firearms for the job and were known to clear out entire areas of all wildlife. This is obviously a bad thing, so the various entities that governed hunting at the time responded with restrictions as to capacity.

Nowadays, capacity restrictions are still seen as an excellent way of limiting the number of game animals taken in any given season. Buck fever hits and your first shot misses, you then have a significant reload time before a follow-up can be taken, and the animal is long gone by then. You leave the field grumpy, but more cursing your bad aim than a govt that does not allow higher tech weapons.

It's all polotics.

09-12-2003, 08:39 AM	#2 (permalink)
1337haxor Insane Location: PA	yeah but a muzzleloader is a single shot while rifles can be bolt action or semiautomatic harder to do repeated shots with a muzzleloader that my theory on why its like that

09-12-2003, 08:11 PM	#4 (permalink)
Moonduck Junkie Location: SE USA	It has to do with technology, and primarily that surrounding repeat shots. Much of modern day hunting capacity/firearm restrictions (blackpowder, plugs in shotguns limiting capacity, etc) comes from so-called Company Hunters in the Depression era. These were men that were paid to go out to duck ponds, woods, etc, and procure large amounts of game for meat processors. They would use high-capacity firearms for the job and were known to clear out entire areas of all wildlife. This is obviously a bad thing, so the various entities that governed hunting at the time responded with restrictions as to capacity. Nowadays, capacity restrictions are still seen as an excellent way of limiting the number of game animals taken in any given season. Buck fever hits and your first shot misses, you then have a significant reload time before a follow-up can be taken, and the animal is long gone by then. You leave the field grumpy, but more cursing your bad aim than a govt that does not allow higher tech weapons. It's all polotics.