So I sort of had an intruder in my house/property... - Page 2 - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

SirLance · 12-17-2010, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Cimarron29414

Sorry, Lance, but this is not true. It is a giant "it depends." If the round is carrying a ballistic trajectory and does not lose its rifling spin, then it is extremely dangerous. However, a round that goes straight up will lose it's ballistic trajectory and tumble to the ground. It will reach terminal velocity and plunk you in the head. I believe it's terminal velocity will be the equivalent of the speed as if you dropped it from around 30 feet or so. In short, it will leave a lump, but won't kill an adult. HOWEVER, a round can maintain a ballistic trajectory even at very high angles of fire, those puppies kill people all the time.

I was not a weapons specialist (engineering, then operations and intelligence), but as you mention terminal velocity, for a human it's about 170 ft./sec depending on profile, and a round has far less drag.

In any event, it is a way bad idea. If you fire a weapon, it should be at a clearly identified target. If that target is human, you should be in fear for your life before using lethal force.

Plan9 · 12-18-2010, 11:09 PM

Somebody get this chickenshit bullshit outta Tilted Weaponry.

Stop polluting the only subforum I can post in these days.

Zeraph · 12-22-2010, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Plan9

Somebody get this chickenshit bullshit outta Tilted Weaponry.

Stop polluting the only subforum I can post in these days.

err which chicken shit are you referring to?

Plan9 · 12-22-2010, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeraph

err which chicken shit are you referring to?

Politics.

Whenever Tilted Politics people post in a Tilted Weaponry thread it means the thread is going south quick. I suggest that the thread is moved elsewhere (Tilted Life) or the OP moves to reshape the discussion so people who have zero experience with weapons are limited to a smaller circle jerk than desired. In my experience, the groupthinks that are Tilted Weaponry and Tilted Politics don't mix well. While this post is partially based around weapon discussion, it went horribly wrong. The mods haven't done anything, so I assume it's still a legit dead horse as far as the Old and Holy TFP Rules, but those bullet points hardly account for good taste. Threadjacks are common, but political threadjacks in gun posts? Enough, motherfuckers, enough.

For reasons I can't figure out, Tilted Weaponry seems to get a lot of hits and generates a lot of great discussion. I wanna keep it that way.

I'm not a mod or admin or even someone with a lukewarm IQ, but those are my thoughts on the matter.

KirStang · 12-22-2010, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Plan9

Politics.

Whenever Tilted Politics people post in a Tilted Weaponry thread it means the thread is going south quick. Either move the thread elsewhere (Life) or shape the discussion so people who have zero experience with weapons are limited to a smaller circle jerk than desired. In my experience, the groupthinks that are Tilted Weaponry and Tilted Politics don't mix well. While this post is partially based around weapon discussion, it went horribly wrong. The Mods haven't done anything, so I assume it's still a legit dead horse.

For reasons I can't figure out, Tilted Weaponry seems to get a lot of hits and generates a lot of great discussion. I wanna keep it that way.

I'm not a mod or admin or even someone with a lukewarm IQ, but those are my thoughts on the matter.

Agreed.

Although, an argument can be made that the curtilage surrounding a home is the same as a person's home. Thus, the whole entire, "He was just checking the windows!" and is therefore a 'no shoot' goes out the window.

And attempted burglary, burglary, close enough in my book. All in all, I'm glad no one was blown away.

Plan9 · 12-22-2010, 11:38 AM

Focus, Kirstang, focus. What I'm trying to say is that the title/original post content doesn't belong in Tilted Weaponry.

Zeraph · 12-22-2010, 03:29 PM

Plan9 I didnt mean for any of my posts to be political. The reason I thought it belonged here was because I had never had a burglar outside my door (well, since I've been an adult). And tilted weaponry are the guys that know how to use guns safely, within the law, and effectively. Essentially I came here more for a critique of my actions rather than any moral or political view points. I just tend to ramble sometimes and go off topic, so sorry if I started any of the political BS.

woohog1 · 12-29-2010, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Walt

Some folks place more value on their possessions than others because of what it cost those folks to acquire them. Let's say that the owner of the car, television, etc is a soldier. He earned the money to lawfully acquire those possessions by risking his life every day on an 18 month deployment. I wouldn't blame the soldier, then, were he to take the life of a substandard human being in order to protect his investment.

So because the soldier had to do an 18 month deployment and get shot at everyday his stuff suddenly has more value than my stuff? I work my butt off to get what I have, I scrimp and save, and make sacrafices, but since I dont get paid to take a bullet and to protect this country, I have to just deal with it?
Now like I said, I dont think anything in my home is worth killing someone over, but the logic you use here is flawed.

Walt · 12-29-2010, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by woohog1

So because the soldier had to do an 18 month deployment and get shot at everyday his stuff suddenly has more value than my stuff?

No. I said that the person who has risked their life to acquire something may place more value on that something than others would, who have not risked their life to acquire the same object.

Same logic applied to a slightly different scenario: The kid who mows lawns every summer for 5 years in order to purchase a car would likely place more value on that car than would the kid who is given a car on his 16th birthday.

Please point out the flaw in my logic.

woohog1 · 12-29-2010, 09:00 PM

Ok, my mistake, I now see where you are going with it. I misread the post!
My bad!

Plan9 · 12-29-2010, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Walt

Please point out the flaw in my logic.

Well, for starters: No bear spear was involved.

Walt · 01-03-2011, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Plan9

Well, for starters: No bear spear was involved.

Eh. I won't feel comfortable using that as my primary until I can get my hands on a xiphos as a back-up.

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Originally Posted by woohog1

Ok, my mistake, I now see where you are going with it. I misread the post!
My bad!

No worries. I've done that more than once, myself.

KirStang · 01-12-2011, 08:46 PM

Heh as it happens a similar scenario happened in Maryland:

Man was shot trying to invade Prince George's home, police say

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A New Carrollton man shot and killed a home invader Tuesday night as the intruder broke through the glass panes of the man's front door and reached through to unlock it, officials and law enforcement sources said.

The 27-year-old resident, whom police did not identify because he is not charged with a crime, was standing in the doorway with a shotgun while the other man, apparently a stranger, tried to break in, police officials and law enforcement sources said.

12-18-2010, 11:09 PM	#42 (permalink)
Plan9 I Confess a Shiver	Somebody get this chickenshit bullshit outta Tilted Weaponry. Stop polluting the only subforum I can post in these days. __________________ *Whatever you can carry.* "You should not drink... and bake."

12-22-2010, 11:38 AM	#46 (permalink)
Plan9 I Confess a Shiver	Focus, Kirstang, focus. What I'm trying to say is that the title/original post content doesn't belong in Tilted Weaponry. __________________ *Whatever you can carry.* "You should not drink... and bake."

12-29-2010, 09:00 PM	#50 (permalink)
woohog1 Crazy Location: Arkansas	Ok, my mistake, I now see where you are going with it. I misread the post! My bad! __________________ God created man, Sam Colt made them equal.

12-22-2010, 03:29 PM	#47 (permalink)
Zeraph Banned Location: The Cosmos	Plan9 I didnt mean for any of my posts to be political. The reason I thought it belonged here was because I had never had a burglar outside my door (well, since I've been an adult). And tilted weaponry are the guys that know how to use guns safely, within the law, and effectively. Essentially I came here more for a critique of my actions rather than any moral or political view points. I just tend to ramble sometimes and go off topic, so sorry if I started any of the political BS.