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MSD · 11-28-2007, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by blahblah454

I also have a 6 inch blade ka-bar in my desk that I use for backpacking.... it would be a good knife in self defense as well.

Don't bring a knife to a gunfight.

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Originally Posted by blahblah454

To be serious Compsin the "bad guys" are a serious thing in Canada. Just down the street from me there was actually a drive by shooting about 3 weeks ago, which is surprising as I live in a really nice area. There are bad people everywhere, its just that it seems that per capita less bad things happen in Canada, like house break ins and robberies. I don't know why the difference but it is there all the same.

You have a lot of open space.

Baraka_Guru · 11-28-2007, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MrSelfDestruct

Don't bring a knife to a gunfight.

Why not? Isn't it a good last resort?

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Originally Posted by MrSelfDestruct

You have a lot of open space.

You call 10,000+ people per square mile a lot of open space? The biggest Canadian cities are far denser than most (if not all) American cities.

monkeysugar · 11-29-2007, 01:31 AM

About 2 seconds or less from anywhere I happen to be in my apartment, except for the bathroom. No guns live there, so I suppose if someone broke in while I was on the toilet I'd be kinda fucked.

Plan9 · 11-29-2007, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru

You call 10,000+ people per square mile a lot of open space? The biggest Canadian cities are far denser than most (if not all) American cities.

But you're all so cuddly. Don't deny it. Canada is safer. And a lot less paranoid despite how many white people it has.

MSD · 12-01-2007, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru

You call 10,000+ people per square mile a lot of open space? The biggest Canadian cities are far denser than most (if not all) American cities.

8.3 people per square mile versus 80 per square mile is a big difference. Plus, this http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary...arth_night.jpg looks like a lot of open space to me.

There's also the fact that I was joking :P

Baraka_Guru · 12-01-2007, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MrSelfDestruct

8.3 people per square mile versus 80 per square mile is a big difference. Plus, this http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary...arth_night.jpg looks like a lot of open space to me.

There's also the fact that I was joking :P

I knew you were joking, but I think it was an interesting point.

....and open space is a big issue when you consider that Canadian snipers are the best in the world.

debaser · 12-02-2007, 05:56 AM

Well...

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Staff Sgt. Robie Johnson and Sgt. 1st Class Jason St. John of the U.S. Army Marksmanship Unit, Fort Benning, Ga., earned first place in the 7th annual U.S. Army International Sniper Competition.

Seventeen two-member sniper teams competed in the week-long competition through Nov. 2, which took place at Fort Benning and was sponsored by the U.S. Army Marksmanship Unit.

The contestants came from the Army and Air Force as well as from countries such as Sweden, Great Britain, Canada and Ireland.

• 2nd: Sgt. Jason Pedro and Staff Sgt. Randy Schell, National Guard Sniper School, Arkansas.

• 3rd: Sgt. Timothy McCollister and Sgt. Jeremy Mitchell, 1st Battalion, 32nd Infantry, 10th Mountain Division, Fort Drum, N.Y.

• 4th: Staff Sgt. George Batts and Staff Sgt. Lee Lyles, 786th Security Force Squadron, U.S. Air Force.

• 5th: Staff Sgt. Paul Ritchie and Sgt. 1st Class Arron Garris, National Guard Warrior Training Center, Fort Benning.

• 6th: Sgt. John Gendron and Sgt. Theodore Guinta, 2nd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment, Fort Lewis, Wash.

• 7th: Sgt. Cesar Cuellar and Sgt. Cody Marthaler, 1st Battalion, 32nd Infantry, 10th Mountain Division, Fort Drum.

• 8th: Sgt. 1st Class Ricky Harris and Sgt. 1st Class Manuel Sandino, 2nd Battalion, 1st Special Warfare Training Group, Fort Bragg, N.C.

• 9th: Sgt. Shane Murrin and Sgt. Uel Fisher, Special Convoy, 28th Infantry Battalion, Ireland

• 10th: Tech Sgt. Richard Crim and Staff Sgt. Aaron Reed, 786th Security Force Squadron, U.S. Air Force.

• 11th: Staff Sgt. Jonathon Davis and Staff Sgt. Scott Delay, 1st Squadron 61st Cavalry, 101st Airborne Division, Fort Campbell, Ky.

• 12th: Master Cpl. Chad Porter and Cpl. Mike Chiabai, 3rd Royal Canadian Regiment, Canada.

• 13th: Staff Sgt. Dennis Seay and Tech Sgt. Joseph Wengler, 786th Security Force Squadron, U.S. Air Force.

• 14th: Master Cpl. Matthew Boudreault and Pvt. Michael Mo, 3rd Royal Canadian Regiment, Canada.

• 15th: Capt. Fredrik Jonsson and 1st Lt. Jack Tisell, Swedish Marine Corps, Sweden.

• 16th: Sgt. Aaron Riley and Sgt. Justin Walker, 2nd Battalion, 87th Infantry, 10th Mountain Division, Fort Drum.

• 17th: Staff Sgt. Karl Cameron and Spc. Joshua Hughes, 1st Battalion, 29th Infantry, Fort Benning.

Baraka_Guru · 12-02-2007, 09:23 AM

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The longest range recorded for sniper kill is 2,430 metres (2,657 yd), accomplished by a Canadian sniper, Corporal Rob Furlong, during the invasion of Afghanistan, using a .50 caliber BMG (12.7 mm) McMillan TAC-50 bolt-action rifle. This meant that the bullet had a flight time of ≈ 4.5 seconds, and a drop of ≈ 70 meters (230 ft).

The previous record was held by US Marine sniper Carlos Hathcock, achieved during the Vietnam War, at a distance of 2,250 metres (2,461 yd).

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If validated, the kill would be the longest shot made by a military sniper in combat, according to the latest issue of Soldier of Fortune magazine.

The U.S. magazine says the Canadian snipers from the Edmonton-based 3rd Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry battle group surpassed their U.S. counterparts, adding "Canuck snipers supposedly had the highest number of confirmed kills in the Shah-i-Kot Valley fight.

"A source in Kandahar working with the Canadian sniper teams estimated 'well over 20 confirmed kills at long ranges.'"

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"The Canadian snipers are professional, well-trained soldiers who walk into harm's way and fulfilled their mission. They represent the best and they have our respect." -Capt. Paul Madej

I think the field is a better indicator than a single competition. (Mind you, Canadians have ranked better in other competitions.) And I don't think I need to remind you of the disparity between our respective militaries' budgets, equipment, and number of personnel. (You didn't mention that a Canadian team dropped out because of an equipment malfunction. This would be good source material for making fun of our military's budgetary shortcomings.)

Anyway, in Canada, you have far too many farm boys with too much time on their hands, too much space, and too much target practice. We produce great snipers.

Plan9 · 12-02-2007, 07:22 PM

One man's work doesn't make a nation better at an occupation.

Carlos Hathcock would agree if he wasn't busy being dead.

Baraka_Guru · 12-02-2007, 07:28 PM

Agreed.

Zooksport2 · 12-07-2007, 10:29 PM

We are supposed to keep ours under lock and key, in Oz.

I have mine out only to clean it, or when going to the range....

I clean mine a lot, several hours a day, sometimes....

If it was locked away, and someone was trying to break in, even though I could get to the key, and then to the safe and open it, get the firearm out, and load it, blindfolded, it would still take too long.

The phones next to the bed... ring 000 (our emergency No.) and let the coppers deal with it..

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thebeat · 12-16-2007, 10:42 AM

It would take approximately 25 - 30 seconds to get to my shotgun...

Fotzlid · 12-16-2007, 11:15 AM

i dont own a gun. if someone breaks into my house, i just have to hope they are deathly afraid of dogs. or angelfish...if they have some weird aquarium phobia....

MSD · 12-22-2007, 07:06 PM

Just skimming the thread again and saw this

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Originally Posted by Crompsin

Haha, didn't Jeff Cooper have blueprints on how to build a modern urban castle?

I have it around here somewhere. Anybody want pictures?

The answer to "Anybody want pictures?" is always yes. We always want pictures. Everybody always wants pictures.

ENolaReve · 12-23-2007, 05:31 AM

Aye, pictures please.

11-29-2007, 01:31 AM	#43 (permalink)
monkeysugar I'll be on the veranda, since you're on the cross. Location: Rand McNally's friendliest small town in America. They must have strayed from the dodgy parts...	About 2 seconds or less from anywhere I happen to be in my apartment, except for the bathroom. No guns live there, so I suppose if someone broke in while I was on the toilet I'd be kinda fucked. __________________ I've got the love of my life and a job that I enjoy most of the time. Life is good.

12-02-2007, 07:22 PM	#49 (permalink)
Plan9 I Confess a Shiver	One man's work doesn't make a nation better at an occupation. Carlos Hathcock would agree if he wasn't busy being dead. __________________ *Whatever you can carry.* "You should not drink... and bake."

12-02-2007, 07:28 PM	#50 (permalink)
Baraka_Guru warrior bodhisattva Super Moderator Location: East-central Canada	Agreed. __________________ Knowing that death is certain and that the time of death is uncertain, what's the most important thing? —Bhikkhuni Pema Chödrön Humankind cannot bear very much reality. —From "Burnt Norton," Four Quartets (1936), T. S. Eliot

12-07-2007, 10:29 PM	#51 (permalink)
Zooksport2 Casual... Real Casual Location: Orstraylia	We are supposed to keep ours under lock and key, in Oz. I have mine out only to clean it, or when going to the range.... I clean mine a lot, several hours a day, sometimes.... If it was locked away, and someone was trying to break in, even though I could get to the key, and then to the safe and open it, get the firearm out, and load it, blindfolded, it would still take too long. The phones next to the bed... ring 000 (our emergency No.) and let the coppers deal with it.. . __________________ "And you run and you run to catch up with the sun but it's sinking. Racing around to come up behind you again. The sun is the same in a relative way but your older, shorter of breath, and one day closer to death" ...pink floyd

12-16-2007, 10:42 AM	#52 (permalink)
thebeat Insane Location: Deep South	It would take approximately 25 - 30 seconds to get to my shotgun... __________________ random

12-16-2007, 11:15 AM	#53 (permalink)
Fotzlid Junkie Location: Greater Boston area	i dont own a gun. if someone breaks into my house, i just have to hope they are deathly afraid of dogs. or angelfish...if they have some weird aquarium phobia....

12-23-2007, 05:31 AM	#55 (permalink)
ENolaReve Upright	Aye, pictures please.