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Old 08-04-2005, 06:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I hate floppy disks

I hate floppy disks x 10000000000000

I just found out that in order to get the SATA RAID (hell, just SATA), I need to make my own SATA RAID driver disk. Stupid A7N8X-E and nForce2 chipset.

They could have at least given me a floppy...
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Old 08-04-2005, 07:03 PM   #2 (permalink)
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hey mike---I was cleaning out some old files the other day and
found some old 5 1/4 floppys you could use....big---lots of
room on them...
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Old 08-04-2005, 07:59 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Ahhhhhhh, true floppies! *runs*
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Old 08-04-2005, 08:18 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Help me on this one guys...Floppy are practically obsolete and we're still forced to use it?? Jeez...you'd think that manufacters have figured out that CDs should replace floppy as one of those cheap media
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Old 08-04-2005, 08:27 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Help me on this one guys...Floppy are practically obsolete and we're still forced to use it?? Jeez...you'd think that manufacters have figured out that CDs should replace floppy as one of those cheap media
Still ... I hate burning a 1.44 MB CD ... I still use floppies.
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Old 08-04-2005, 08:35 PM   #6 (permalink)
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You can probably make a custom Windows installer CD that includes the drivers so you don't need a floppy. To do it easily, try nLite or search this board because I think that process has been discussed.
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Old 08-04-2005, 09:08 PM   #7 (permalink)
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You'll probably change install CD's more often than they change the RAID drivers. Whenever I'm building a box I just bite the bullet and make a driver floppy (along with burning a current BIOS/chipset driver CD). They stay taped inside the case. Too many times spent kicking my own ass without net access or blank floppies or...
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Old 08-04-2005, 10:16 PM   #8 (permalink)
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You can probably make a custom Windows installer CD that includes the drivers so you don't need a floppy. To do it easily, try nLite or search this board because I think that process has been discussed.
I'm one step ahead of you, but there was a long reason that I didn't do it. My friend suggested this to me, but he assured me my ripped XP wouldn't do the trick.

Great thinking, Cyrnel. I found my FDD so i'll put the RAID drivers on that and install it.
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Old 08-04-2005, 11:36 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Mike, you could make an XP CD with the drivers, but by the time you finished you could have installed XP several times with the floppy version. Makes sense if you have lots of changes or are supporting a number of users. It's usually part of making an unattended install. At that point a few driver changes are just necessary icing on the cake.
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Old 08-04-2005, 11:48 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Yeah. If I ever need to install lots of RAID on NF2, i'll slipstream it to a copy of XP, but for the time being, i'll just put in the FDD for a little while

It just ticks me off though. I've got SATA on my comp and I never needed third party drivers - WinXP picked it up just fine .... but not with this mobo. The worst part is, they don't even give me a damn driver floppy. Ironically, my mobo DID.

Note - my mobo is ABIT intel. My parents' mobo is Asus AMD. Grrrrr.....

The scary thing is, the options for SATA in the BIOS seem very, very limited. I did a lot of reserach on my problem and it turns out I'm going to have to tell the BIOS that it's gotta boot from SCSI.

I dunno, it just seems like intel has better SATA support :-( I feel so bad for my parents because I've been all slow with this comp. Bleh.

*slits wrists and blacks eyes*
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Old 08-05-2005, 12:04 AM   #11 (permalink)
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No big deal. New platforms are always a little slower to set up. If you cruised you'd mess something up, right?

Intel (& friends) started SATA and their drivers are "in the fold". NVidia's Nforce chipsets aren't.

Their MediaShield RAID (on pro boards) is quite a bit better.
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Old 08-05-2005, 12:18 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I'll keep that in mind - but is that because Intel is being a proprietary monster, nVidia just isn't complying or being ghey, or a bit of both?

Yeah, you're right. New platforms are a pain. I forgot
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Old 08-05-2005, 01:06 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I actually need a 5.25 floppy to take apart and use as a camera filter viejo! you guys know where i can possibly find one other than ebay?
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Old 08-05-2005, 01:39 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I'll keep that in mind - but is that because Intel is being a proprietary monster, nVidia just isn't complying or being ghey, or a bit of both?
NV is a competitor. Doesn't have the history of SiS or VIA, but chipsets and foundation tech are Intel's turf. They're quite hostile to competitors, and have many roadblocks at their disposal. The shady stuff you hear from various divisions makes it all seem like a big used car lot. Such is monstrous business.

In this case, Intel got their SATA into MS's hardware list early. NV didn't have theirs ready. It's expensive to do, and of less value if you come in late. (Soo many install cd's out there already, etc.) Bundle a floppy and call it good. ShortHorn/vista will surely have some form of NV RAID, about the time we're moving to NV SATA 3G that still needs a floppy.

Hey, is it really 2:30? Argh.
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Old 08-05-2005, 01:42 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I actually need a 5.25 floppy to take apart and use as a camera filter viejo! you guys know where i can possibly find one other than ebay?
Assume you mean a blank and not a mechanism? I have 5.25" and I think a few 8" floppies around here somewhere.

Soft or hard sectored? (j/k)
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Old 08-05-2005, 01:18 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Thanks for the advice, Cyrnel. Good words.

I got the SATA diskz0rz but I ran into trouble. I think I goofed on the partition size when I went to install XP or something..... trying a second install, but if this doesn't work ..... hmmmmmm.
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