Anyone out there running Alienware equiptment? - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

blindawg · 05-13-2003, 08:03 AM

I have an Area51M lapto 2.4Ghz w/1GB Ram. I opted for the second battery as the battey life is maybe 1.5 hours on a single one. I have also started ordering their workstations for work (we already had 3 other laptops)

We have 3 identical laptops sames as mine only 512MB RAM.

and we just recently recieved 4 Area 51 dual Athlon XP220+ machines. For the price f the workstatiosn, nothing compares in price for the speed you get. Anyway just curious how many people acutally own or have even touched one of these machines.

darkure · 05-13-2003, 09:23 AM

I do not own one but I have touched one and they are very nice. I like how clean and well laid out they are inside. I need to clean up the wires in my own case after seeing what they are able to do.

What, may I ask, do you do that requires such high-end computers?

blindawg · 05-13-2003, 10:22 AM

Graphic Arts and I'm not a MAC Guy. Actually I used to be inteh Art dept now mostly I just take care of Network issues and help the art dept when they are swamped. So I needed something portable yet very powerful. (And good for gaming on the weekends)

Boner · 05-13-2003, 10:33 AM

The Area51 is a rebranded Sager. If you have live without the funky colors, you can save a couple of bucks by buying directly from them.

blindawg · 05-13-2003, 10:44 AM

Are you sure about this? I'm not saying you're right or wrong, just curios.. They do have one model that is the same exact case. Wher did you find out this info?

A strange thing is that components are cheaper through Alienware - take the 2nd battery for example $34 cheaper.

Anyway any information helping me verifythis would be great.

crashoverride · 05-13-2003, 02:00 PM

yeah I touched one -> in bestbuy
they are too expensive for a student like me

Boner · 05-13-2003, 03:33 PM

I had read that Alienware notebooks were Sagers awhile back in a couple of Usenet threads. I went back and checked again, and now I'm seeing stuff that says that Alienware and Sager machines are both rebadged Clevos.

http://www.clevo.com.tw/products/desknote.asp

Anyway, it appears that they are made by the same manufacturer.

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...net%26rnum%3D3

The_Dude · 05-13-2003, 03:44 PM

i bulid my own, i can build 'em for much cheaper than what alienware sells them for, except their cases look a tiny bit cooler.

crashoverride · 05-13-2003, 04:40 PM

@The_Dude

Where can you get the cases for laptop and where can you buy the other parts? Do you have a tutorial cuz I've never build one.

I might build one for my gf.

blindawg · 05-14-2003, 06:00 AM

I did notice that buying from Saber is a fair bit cheaper, I'm checking out Clevo right now. Thanks for the info.

Antagony · 05-14-2003, 06:26 AM

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Originally posted by The_Dude
i bulid my own, i can build 'em for much cheaper than what alienware sells them for, except their cases look a tiny bit cooler.

Seconded. Alienware charges a ludicrous amount of cash for their shiz.

Prophecy · 05-14-2003, 09:55 AM

I looked at buying Alienware, and for the cool factor alone, its the only thing I'd buy. However, when it comes to the cash flow factor is hella expensive and no where near my budget. Who was 3-4 grand to drop on a pc? sure not me...I my little laptop is doing me just fine

platypus · 05-14-2003, 11:52 AM

Clevo manufactures for Alienware, Saber, Prostar, Toshiba and others.

Only difference is price and maybe some bells and whistles included in certain packages.

<b>blindawg</b>, I've actually been looking at the Alienware Area51 and Prostar 8834 laptops (16 inch screens). Thinking of replacing my desktop with something more portable. But at over 11 lbs. just how portable is this beast? Ever lugged it a great distance or taken it on an airplane?

Jolt · 05-14-2003, 07:30 PM

Quote:

I had read that Alienware notebooks were Sagers awhile back in a couple of Usenet threads. I went back and checked again, and now I'm seeing stuff that says that Alienware and Sager machines are both rebadged Clevos.

There are, total, perhaps 7 companies that make all the world's laptops. Those would be IBM and 6 Taiwanese production outsourcing firms. Uniwill, Quanta, etc.

gamer715 · 05-14-2003, 08:21 PM

If I had the money, Alienware'd be what I buy. They use top-notch components, their service is good (I've heard), but what really does it is their cases are damn nice.
Example:

Not just nice to look at, also nice to work in, uncluttered.

SLM3 · 05-15-2003, 03:04 PM

I'm also running an Alienware Area51-m laptop. 2.4Ghz with 512MB of ram. All topped off with a conspiracy blue case

. I love it. Sure, it's heavier than your average laptop but really it's only about 11lbs and it's a desktop replacement.

If you've got the cash then I'd definitely recommend this computer.

SLM3

The_Dude · 05-15-2003, 03:10 PM

i prefer what's inside than what's outside

gamer715 · 05-15-2003, 03:30 PM

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Originally posted by The_Dude
i prefer what's inside than what's outside

Of course, but they use good components and their cases are nice to work inside, very uncluttered and good airflow.

blindawg · 05-16-2003, 04:36 AM

Here's my laptop

And here are the 4 dual Athlon 2200+ boxes I ordered for work. We also have 2 other laptops.. as well. I think I may go saber If I order any more. Their identical laptops seem to run about $600-$700 less.

The second one from the right that appears dark metallic green is actually the Chameleon color. It's realy sweet.

wraithhibn · 05-16-2003, 09:18 AM

That stuff kicks ass blinddawg

charliex · 05-16-2003, 12:29 PM

I almost bought the alienware 51M but they stopped doing the colour i wanted. so i went to sager and bought the better model from them for cheaper, here was a mixup in the ordering they gave me a 2.8G p4 instead of the 3.0 P4 hyperthreaded so i went in and while i was there i saw a new prototype case, which had the colour i wanted and they swapped it out for me, it was still about 1500 cheaper than the 15M and i have 16" screen instead of a 15"

they are all similar models, each of them uses the same base hardware, and build it themselves.they aren't identical, but they are pretty darn close.

its 16" LCD, 1G Ram 160GB harddisk space, ATI tv tuner, radeon 9000, got a numpad, 1600x1200 res, built in removable mp3 player, tv in, tv out, firewire , 4 usb ports, ps2 mouse,keyboard , parallel and serial port 3.0G P4 and a cool paint job that changes colour in the light, alienware call it chameleon , they didnt have it l a few weeks ago when i bought mine

trecool · 05-16-2003, 07:25 PM

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its 16" LCD, 1G Ram 160GB harddisk space, ATI tv tuner, radeon 9000, got a numpad, 1600x1200 res, built in removable mp3 player, tv in, tv out, firewire , 4 usb ports, ps2 mouse,keyboard , parallel and serial port 3.0G P4 and a cool paint job that changes colour in the light, alienware call it chameleon , they didnt have it l a few weeks ago when i bought mine

Yes indeed. I have a Sager 8887-X, 3.06 gig, gig of ram and 128 meg video. If you are going to buy a rebadaged Clevo, do not buy alienware. www.pctorque.com is much faster and cheaper then alienware. For more info, go to www.sagerforums.com. Good luck with your shopping!

cliv · 05-17-2003, 10:07 AM

Alienware is probably the best PC I have ever owned/used. I have experiece with Dell & Gateway & and many "Made in Someone's Garage" brands. It's never given me a minute's trouble. Mine is about 1 1/2 years old (desktop, P IV 2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, Nvidia GeForce 3, CD-RW, DVD). I like the clean layout inside the case and the use of high-end but standard parts. Yes, it cost more, but I'll gladly pay for a fast, well designed system. Can't wait until I need a new PC, the new case looks great.

My only complaint is that it's LOUD due to all the fans.

jsn117 · 05-17-2003, 08:10 PM

how quiet are the alienware laptops? They have fans, and I was gonig to take it to class with me and was hoping they arent too loud

Konichiwaneko · 05-17-2003, 10:56 PM

It's funny...I just worked on an Alienware PC onsite a few days ago.

Nothing their fault, it was just a bad drive and it's common. Great machine, fun company. The Tech and I talked about Battlefield 1942 and running over people with tanks, while the Customer on site was getting antzy to buy the game.

Alienware is a great company, all I dislike though is how much their machines are. Yet when I looked at the receipt their Burn-in test for their machines are intensive. Benchmarks a plenty.

Alienware = Great machines, high price
Dell = Good to great machines, AMAZING price.

It's like buying luxury or basic cars...all in all they both go forward and reverse.

05-13-2003, 08:03 AM	#1 (permalink)
blindawg Lord over all I survey Location: Northern Michigan	Anyone out there running Alienware equiptment? I have an Area51M lapto 2.4Ghz w/1GB Ram. I opted for the second battery as the battey life is maybe 1.5 hours on a single one. I have also started ordering their workstations for work (we already had 3 other laptops) We have 3 identical laptops sames as mine only 512MB RAM. and we just recently recieved 4 Area 51 dual Athlon XP220+ machines. For the price f the workstatiosn, nothing compares in price for the speed you get. Anyway just curious how many people acutally own or have even touched one of these machines. __________________ ( • Y • ) I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it. ( • Y • ) - Jack Handey

05-13-2003, 09:23 AM	#2 (permalink)
darkure Addict Location: Dodging the ice pick	I do not own one but I have touched one and they are very nice. I like how clean and well laid out they are inside. I need to clean up the wires in my own case after seeing what they are able to do. What, may I ask, do you do that requires such high-end computers? __________________ COYW

05-13-2003, 10:22 AM	#3 (permalink)
blindawg Lord over all I survey Location: Northern Michigan	Graphic Arts and I'm not a MAC Guy. Actually I used to be inteh Art dept now mostly I just take care of Network issues and help the art dept when they are swamped. So I needed something portable yet very powerful. (And good for gaming on the weekends) __________________ ( • Y • ) I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it. ( • Y • ) - Jack Handey

05-13-2003, 10:44 AM	#5 (permalink)
blindawg Lord over all I survey Location: Northern Michigan	Are you sure about this? I'm not saying you're right or wrong, just curios.. They do have one model that is the same exact case. Wher did you find out this info? A strange thing is that components are cheaper through Alienware - take the 2nd battery for example $34 cheaper. Anyway any information helping me verifythis would be great. __________________ ( • Y • ) I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it. ( • Y • ) - Jack Handey Last edited by blindawg; 05-13-2003 at 10:50 AM..

05-13-2003, 03:44 PM	#8 (permalink)
The_Dude The GrandDaddy of them all! Location: Austin, TX	i bulid my own, i can build 'em for much cheaper than what alienware sells them for, except their cases look a tiny bit cooler. __________________ "Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity." - Darrel K Royal

05-13-2003, 10:33 AM	#4 (permalink)
Boner Insane Location: Plugged In	The Area51 is a rebranded Sager. If you have live without the funky colors, you can save a couple of bucks by buying directly from them.

05-13-2003, 02:00 PM	#6 (permalink)
crashoverride Crazy	yeah I touched one -> in bestbuy they are too expensive for a student like me

05-13-2003, 03:33 PM	#7 (permalink)
Boner Insane Location: Plugged In	I had read that Alienware notebooks were Sagers awhile back in a couple of Usenet threads. I went back and checked again, and now I'm seeing stuff that says that Alienware and Sager machines are both rebadged Clevos. http://www.clevo.com.tw/products/desknote.asp Anyway, it appears that they are made by the same manufacturer. http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...net%26rnum%3D3

05-13-2003, 04:40 PM	#9 (permalink)
crashoverride Crazy	@The_Dude Where can you get the cases for laptop and where can you buy the other parts? Do you have a tutorial cuz I've never build one. I might build one for my gf.

05-14-2003, 06:00 AM	#10 (permalink)
blindawg Lord over all I survey Location: Northern Michigan	I did notice that buying from Saber is a fair bit cheaper, I'm checking out Clevo right now. Thanks for the info. __________________ ( • Y • ) I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it. ( • Y • ) - Jack Handey

05-14-2003, 09:55 AM	#12 (permalink)
Prophecy Oracle & Apollyon Location: Limbus Patrum	I looked at buying Alienware, and for the cool factor alone, its the only thing I'd buy. However, when it comes to the cash flow factor is hella expensive and no where near my budget. Who was 3-4 grand to drop on a pc? sure not me...I my little laptop is doing me just fine __________________ La Disciplina È La Mia Spada, La Fede È Il Mio Schermo, Non salti Ciecamente In Incertezza, E Potete Raccogliere Le Ricompense.

05-14-2003, 11:52 AM	#13 (permalink)
platypus Essen meine kurze Hosen Location: NY Burbs	Clevo manufactures for Alienware, Saber, Prostar, Toshiba and others. Only difference is price and maybe some bells and whistles included in certain packages. <b>blindawg</b>, I've actually been looking at the Alienware Area51 and Prostar 8834 laptops (16 inch screens). Thinking of replacing my desktop with something more portable. But at over 11 lbs. just how portable is this beast? Ever lugged it a great distance or taken it on an airplane? __________________ Out the 10Base-T, through the router, down the T1, over the leased line, off the bridge, past the firewall...nothing but Net. Last edited by platypus; 05-14-2003 at 04:43 PM..

05-14-2003, 08:21 PM	#15 (permalink)
gamer715 Insane Location: here	If I had the money, Alienware'd be what I buy. They use top-notch components, their service is good (I've heard), but what really does it is their cases are damn nice. Example: Not just nice to look at, also nice to work in, uncluttered. __________________ What 'chu talkin' 'bout, Willis?

05-15-2003, 03:04 PM	#16 (permalink)
SLM3 Insane	Re: Anyone out there running Alienware equiptment? I'm also running an Alienware Area51-m laptop. 2.4Ghz with 512MB of ram. All topped off with a conspiracy blue case . I love it. Sure, it's heavier than your average laptop but really it's only about 11lbs and it's a desktop replacement. If you've got the cash then I'd definitely recommend this computer. SLM3

05-15-2003, 03:10 PM	#17 (permalink)
The_Dude The GrandDaddy of them all! Location: Austin, TX	i prefer what's inside than what's outside __________________ "Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity." - Darrel K Royal

05-16-2003, 09:18 AM	#20 (permalink)
wraithhibn Dopefish Location: the 'Ville	That stuff kicks ass blinddawg __________________ If you won't dress like the Victoria Secret girls, don't expect us to act like soap opera guys.

05-16-2003, 04:36 AM	#19 (permalink)
blindawg Lord over all I survey Location: Northern Michigan	Here's my laptop And here are the 4 dual Athlon 2200+ boxes I ordered for work. We also have 2 other laptops.. as well. I think I may go saber If I order any more. Their identical laptops seem to run about $600-$700 less. The second one from the right that appears dark metallic green is actually the Chameleon color. It's realy sweet. __________________ ( • Y • ) I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it. ( • Y • ) - Jack Handey Last edited by blindawg; 05-16-2003 at 09:49 AM..

05-16-2003, 12:29 PM	#21 (permalink)
charliex Junkie Location: North Hollywood	I almost bought the alienware 51M but they stopped doing the colour i wanted. so i went to sager and bought the better model from them for cheaper, here was a mixup in the ordering they gave me a 2.8G p4 instead of the 3.0 P4 hyperthreaded so i went in and while i was there i saw a new prototype case, which had the colour i wanted and they swapped it out for me, it was still about 1500 cheaper than the 15M and i have 16" screen instead of a 15" they are all similar models, each of them uses the same base hardware, and build it themselves.they aren't identical, but they are pretty darn close. its 16" LCD, 1G Ram 160GB harddisk space, ATI tv tuner, radeon 9000, got a numpad, 1600x1200 res, built in removable mp3 player, tv in, tv out, firewire , 4 usb ports, ps2 mouse,keyboard , parallel and serial port 3.0G P4 and a cool paint job that changes colour in the light, alienware call it chameleon , they didnt have it l a few weeks ago when i bought mine

05-17-2003, 10:07 AM	#23 (permalink)
cliv Insane Location: New Jersey, USA	Alienware is probably the best PC I have ever owned/used. I have experiece with Dell & Gateway & and many "Made in Someone's Garage" brands. It's never given me a minute's trouble. Mine is about 1 1/2 years old (desktop, P IV 2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, Nvidia GeForce 3, CD-RW, DVD). I like the clean layout inside the case and the use of high-end but standard parts. Yes, it cost more, but I'll gladly pay for a fast, well designed system. Can't wait until I need a new PC, the new case looks great. My only complaint is that it's LOUD due to all the fans.

05-17-2003, 08:10 PM	#24 (permalink)
jsn117 Tilted Location: LA	how quiet are the alienware laptops? They have fans, and I was gonig to take it to class with me and was hoping they arent too loud

05-17-2003, 10:56 PM	#25 (permalink)
Konichiwaneko The Dreaded Pixel Nazi Location: Inside my camera	It's funny...I just worked on an Alienware PC onsite a few days ago. Nothing their fault, it was just a bad drive and it's common. Great machine, fun company. The Tech and I talked about Battlefield 1942 and running over people with tanks, while the Customer on site was getting antzy to buy the game. Alienware is a great company, all I dislike though is how much their machines are. Yet when I looked at the receipt their Burn-in test for their machines are intensive. Benchmarks a plenty. Alienware = Great machines, high price Dell = Good to great machines, AMAZING price. It's like buying luxury or basic cars...all in all they both go forward and reverse. __________________ Hesitate. Pull me in. Breath on breath. Skin on skin. Loving deep. Falling fast. All right here. Let this last. Here with our lips locked tight. Baby the time is right for us... to forget about us.