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soccerchamp76 · 07-13-2004, 01:26 PM

Or am I missing something here?
eVGA nVIDIA GeForce 6800 Video Card, 128MB GDDR, 256-bit, DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...130-202&depa=0
$293.99 and it only requires a 350 watt PSU.

Is this basically a toned down version of the other 6800s?

What is this in comparison to a nice Radeon 9800?

bltzkriegmcanon · 07-13-2004, 05:39 PM

No, it's not a "toned down" version of the 6800, it's just a 6800, plain and simple. Anandtech did a nice value/perfomance review on some of the newest shit, and I found it quite helpful in my quest for knowledge concerning the issue. Tom's Hardware can also be helpful in finding answers to your questions.
In any case, back to answering your question. Nvidia has priced out the 6800 at around 300 bucks, and vendors are pricing it around that point, so seeing a "regular" 6800 on newegg for that price is of no surprise. The other 6800s that I assume you refer to, the 6800 GT ($400 USD), 6800 Ultra($500 USD), and 6800 Ultra Extreme ($540 USD, not entirely sure at this point) all rank higher and higher on the performance scale, in that order. To answer your other question, I would expect about a 50% performance increase against a 9800 Pro, but nothing beyond that. Hell, it might be below that. But, I say to you with no ego that the 6800 Ultra literally brings about a 300% increase in power (according to Tom's Hardware's 3dMark2003 test scores) to the table. It's the first real jump in performance that the industry has seen in a while.

Now, with that info under your belt, you have to consider, is a 50% performance increase really, really worth the extra 93 bucks? I mean, seriously. I made the same decision when I bought my card (ATI 9700 Pro, 2002), and I saw about a 50% increase against the GeForce 4 Ti4600 in all tests. I didn't consider that at the time, but that's, in reality, exactly what I payed 280 bucks for. Mind you, this was a serious upgrade for me (all the way up from a GeForce2 MX440), but I was still only getting a 50% performance increase when compared to the previous generation.

Lasereth · 07-14-2004, 10:19 AM

A 6800 is about 50-100% better than a Radeon 9800 Pro (considering which games and applications you're running). A nice raw number would be 50-60% better. Is it worth it? I think so. Not saying that the Radeon 9800 Pro is a bad deal, though...it's actually the best deal on the market.

-Lasereth

07-13-2004, 01:26 PM	#1 (permalink)
soccerchamp76 Go Cardinals Location: St. Louis/Cincinnati	Too good to be true? Or am I missing something here? eVGA nVIDIA GeForce 6800 Video Card, 128MB GDDR, 256-bit, DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...130-202&depa=0 $293.99 and it only requires a 350 watt PSU. Is this basically a toned down version of the other 6800s? What is this in comparison to a nice Radeon 9800? __________________ Brian Griffin: Ah, if my memory serves me, this is the physics department. Chris Griffin: That would explain all the gravity.

07-13-2004, 05:39 PM	#2 (permalink)
bltzkriegmcanon Holy Knight of The Alliance Location: Stormwind, The Eastern Kingdoms, Azeroth	No, it's not a "toned down" version of the 6800, it's just a 6800, plain and simple. Anandtech did a nice value/perfomance review on some of the newest shit, and I found it quite helpful in my quest for knowledge concerning the issue. Tom's Hardware can also be helpful in finding answers to your questions. In any case, back to answering your question. Nvidia has priced out the 6800 at around 300 bucks, and vendors are pricing it around that point, so seeing a "regular" 6800 on newegg for that price is of no surprise. The other 6800s that I assume you refer to, the 6800 GT ($400 USD), 6800 Ultra($500 USD), and 6800 Ultra Extreme ($540 USD, not entirely sure at this point) all rank higher and higher on the performance scale, in that order. To answer your other question, I would expect about a 50% performance increase against a 9800 Pro, but nothing beyond that. Hell, it might be below that. But, I say to you with no ego that the 6800 Ultra literally brings about a 300% increase in power (according to Tom's Hardware's 3dMark2003 test scores) to the table. It's the first real jump in performance that the industry has seen in a while. Now, with that info under your belt, you have to consider, is a 50% performance increase really, really worth the extra 93 bucks? I mean, seriously. I made the same decision when I bought my card (ATI 9700 Pro, 2002), and I saw about a 50% increase against the GeForce 4 Ti4600 in all tests. I didn't consider that at the time, but that's, in reality, exactly what I payed 280 bucks for. Mind you, this was a serious upgrade for me (all the way up from a GeForce2 MX440), but I was still only getting a 50% performance increase when compared to the previous generation. __________________ What do you say to one last showdown? - Ocelot, Metal Gear Solid 3 The password is "Who are the Patriots?" and "La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo." "La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo." Gotcha. - The Colonel and Snake, Metal Gear Solid 3

07-14-2004, 10:19 AM	#3 (permalink)
Lasereth Knight of the Old Republic Location: Winston-Salem, NC	A 6800 is about 50-100% better than a Radeon 9800 Pro (considering which games and applications you're running). A nice raw number would be 50-60% better. Is it worth it? I think so. Not saying that the Radeon 9800 Pro is a bad deal, though...it's actually the best deal on the market. -Lasereth __________________ "A Darwinian attacks his theory, seeking to find flaws. An ID believer defends his theory, seeking to conceal flaws." -Roger Ebert