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mrap1 · 07-08-2004, 04:36 PM

I'm thinking of finally getting a DVD-RW drive and I see that 12X drives are just starting to come out. I know that CD-RW drives have pretty much maxed out at 52X. How fast do you guys think that DVD-RW drives will get.

Also I noticed that most drives can write to DVD+R DVDs faster. Why is this? What is the benefit of writing of writing to a DVD-R if most drives write to this type of disc somewhat slower?

Dragonlich · 07-09-2004, 11:13 AM

12x speed is nice, but you need the discs to go with it. When 8x drives came out, it took some 2 months for the discs to follow. Only now are they arriving. Same thing with 12x speeds: the drives are here, but there are no discs.

I've read that 16x dvd-rewriters are coming soon, and higher speeds are to be expected.

BUT... at the moment, there's a new type of writer, which is able to write dual-layer discs (IF they're ever available). This allows you to write 8.5 gigs of data to an appropriate disc (at 2.4x speed). This speed will of course increase soon. I think these dics are dvd-r types, so we'll probably see a dual-layer dvd+r too... just to annoy us, of course.

In the near future, we'll see the emergence of Blue-ray, which uses a blue laser to achieve much higher data density, and will be able to fit 10, 20 or more gigs on one disc.

Now, at the moment, dvd+r is simply a better standard than the older dvd-r, and there can be only two reasons to write dvd-r. 1) They might be cheaper where you live, and 2) you may own a dvd-player that only reads dvd-r. Apart from that, dvd-r is pretty much a slower alternative.

Short version: get either a cheap 8x dvd+/-rw from a good brand, or get a cheap 12x dvd+/-rw from a good brand, or get a slightly more expensive (and sometimes experimental) dual-layer burner. Don't bother waiting for that next speed increase, because it won't matter that much. At 4x speeds, a dvd takes 16 minutes to burn, at 8x speeds, some 8 minutes. At 12x speeds, it takes 6 or 7 minutes... Is that speed increase *really* important to you?

mrap1 · 07-09-2004, 04:39 PM

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[i]... Is that speed increase *really* important to you? [/B]

In the computer world speed is king.

hmm, seems to me like your recomendations lead me to the drive everyone is talking about, the NEC 2500A. http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...152-011&depa=0
It's cheap, it's 8x, and it can be upgraded to dual layer burning. I guess this is probably the best all around drive available.

I was also looking into getting an optorite drive which claims it can burn 1.4 GB of data onto a standard CD-R. Anyone have any opinions on this? The only tradeoff to this drive is that it can't be upgraded to dual layer burning.

LNCPapa · 07-09-2004, 10:11 PM

Actually - I believe most of the Dual Layer stuff out there is +R

Knucklehead · 07-11-2004, 11:21 AM

Another resource -> http://www.videohelp.com/

http://www.videohelp.com/dvdwriters....list=#comments

The NEC 2500a would be my choice if I didn't have a Pioneer 106

07-08-2004, 04:36 PM	#1 (permalink)
mrap1 Insane Location: NY	DVD-RW questions I'm thinking of finally getting a DVD-RW drive and I see that 12X drives are just starting to come out. I know that CD-RW drives have pretty much maxed out at 52X. How fast do you guys think that DVD-RW drives will get. Also I noticed that most drives can write to DVD+R DVDs faster. Why is this? What is the benefit of writing of writing to a DVD-R if most drives write to this type of disc somewhat slower?

07-09-2004, 10:11 PM	#4 (permalink)
LNCPapa Crazy Location: Notre Dame	Actually - I believe most of the Dual Layer stuff out there is +R __________________ No mercy for the bandwidth impaired

07-09-2004, 11:13 AM	#2 (permalink)
Dragonlich 42, baby! Location: The Netherlands	12x speed is nice, but you need the discs to go with it. When 8x drives came out, it took some 2 months for the discs to follow. Only now are they arriving. Same thing with 12x speeds: the drives are here, but there are no discs. I've read that 16x dvd-rewriters are coming soon, and higher speeds are to be expected. BUT... at the moment, there's a new type of writer, which is able to write dual-layer discs (IF they're ever available). This allows you to write 8.5 gigs of data to an appropriate disc (at 2.4x speed). This speed will of course increase soon. I think these dics are dvd-r types, so we'll probably see a dual-layer dvd+r too... just to annoy us, of course. In the near future, we'll see the emergence of Blue-ray, which uses a blue laser to achieve much higher data density, and will be able to fit 10, 20 or more gigs on one disc. Now, at the moment, dvd+r is simply a better standard than the older dvd-r, and there can be only two reasons to write dvd-r. 1) They might be cheaper where you live, and 2) you may own a dvd-player that only reads dvd-r. Apart from that, dvd-r is pretty much a slower alternative. Short version: get either a cheap 8x dvd+/-rw from a good brand, or get a cheap 12x dvd+/-rw from a good brand, or get a slightly more expensive (and sometimes experimental) dual-layer burner. Don't bother waiting for that next speed increase, because it won't matter that much. At 4x speeds, a dvd takes 16 minutes to burn, at 8x speeds, some 8 minutes. At 12x speeds, it takes 6 or 7 minutes... Is that speed increase really important to you?

07-11-2004, 11:21 AM	#5 (permalink)
Knucklehead Upright Location: NePA	Another resource -> http://www.videohelp.com/ http://www.videohelp.com/dvdwriters....list=#comments The NEC 2500a would be my choice if I didn't have a Pioneer 106