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merkerguitars · 03-28-2004, 09:40 PM

This is a pic of my aunt's computer after I scanned it

Aletheia · 03-28-2004, 09:52 PM

merk: http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthr...threadid=50552
merk: sfw
Aletheia: MY EYES
Aletheia: OH GOD
* Aletheia eyes burn

Sums up my reaction.

soopafreek · 03-28-2004, 10:05 PM

HO-LY CRAP!
better install spybot, spyware blaster, ad-aware...........

nanofever · 03-28-2004, 10:06 PM

A person who knows how to use CloneCD but can't work Norton. Odd.

SecretMethod70 · 03-28-2004, 11:19 PM

what. the. fuck.

*kisses Linux*

viper11885 · 03-28-2004, 11:33 PM

I had that blaster worm a while ago. Had a ton of infected files. Can't remember exactly how much, but it was a lot!

Latch · 03-29-2004, 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SecretMethod70
what. the. fuck.

*kisses Linux*

Full on. I had something similar (although nowhere near as bad) w/ my mom's computer when I went to clean it for her.

God of Thunder · 03-29-2004, 04:25 AM

I had a thread in here awhile ago (too lazy to search for it) declaring me the winner with 1173 infected files.

You sir, are now the winner

I bow down to thee.

Seriously, users need to be aware of what they are doing. Next time I get a user like this I swear I'm gonna tell em to box it up and send it back. They are too stupid to own a computer.

/rant
/threadjack

merkerguitars · 03-29-2004, 06:37 AM

Well here's how the problem happened. My aunt bought a dell about 3 months ago (the only reason she bought it through dell is it was the only place that would let her do payments with her shitty credit history) So she calls me up and tells me the whole thing is messed up. So I get over there and it's fucked....so she did buy another hard drive so i put it in, installed windows to that drive and put norton on (she previously had some shitty mcaffee online scanner that sucks and doesn't scan emails) scan it and this happened as a result....then i tweaked windows and it runs like a dream, actually her old computer (that my cousin uses now) is still going today after I got rid of ME and put 2k pro on it. My aunt and uncle are reasonably good with computers but I pretty much blame this on the shitty antivirus software that came with it, (yeah she should of installed norton antivirus right away0

sailor · 03-29-2004, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SecretMethod70
what. the. fuck.

*kisses Linux*

Yep, pretty much sums up my thoughts

We have all kinds of horror stories here at the tech support at my University. *That* one definitely takes the cake. Once we started installing managed antivirus programs that update their definitions from our server every two hours, we had a lot less viruses popping up.

The good thing about our job though is that we have the power to just say "Its fucked, we are going to nuke it." Most of the clients data is on a seperate partition which makes it easy for us to just wipe the computer because they generally dont lose anything. I seriously think that one in 20 machines that come through gets nuked because the end user has so fucked it up that it would take hours to repair. Thats a lot of machines.

I really am starting to think that there should be some sort of test to own a computer, just like you have to take a test to get a driver's license. It could very easiyl sort some of this crap out. People see computers as appliances, and treat them as such, not realizing that it is much more than that.

agball · 03-29-2004, 12:22 PM

Time for the old system restore

laconic1 · 03-29-2004, 12:28 PM

I have a feeling that if my parents ever connected to the internet they could find a way to top that.

PsychoMan · 03-29-2004, 01:52 PM

A university professor that I know just bought a new top of the line computer, and paid a high school kid to spend a day or two installing XP, Office, and a bunch of other software on it.

The first thing he did while surfing the web was to click on a popup, installing a trojan. He had spent so much time worrying about viruses and getting the kid to install virus software, and he went and ran an unknown foreign executable.

So, I propose the following question for our test:

Q: While you are surfing, a pop-up appears. You click the "uninstall" link, and it asks if you want to run the "pop-up uninstall program". What should you do? Choose one:

1. Click "OK", because popups are bad and uninstalling them seems like a good idea.
2. Place the computer in the oven at 450°F for 20 minutes to kill any viruses
3. Call the kid next door and give him all your passwords
4. Hit "cancel" because running foreign executables is a bad idea.
5. It doesn't matter as long as you have a firewall.

dnd · 03-29-2004, 02:08 PM

Q: While you are surfing, a pop-up appears. You click the "uninstall" link, and it asks if you want to run the "pop-up uninstall program". What should you do? Choose one:

1. Click "OK", because popups are bad and uninstalling them seems like a good idea.
2. Place the computer in the oven at 450°F for 20 minutes to kill any viruses
3. Call the kid next door and give him all your passwords
4. Hit "cancel" because running foreign executables is a bad idea.
5. It doesn't matter as long as you have a firewall.

ummm 4?
< mental thought >
Please be right!Please be right!Please be right!Please be right!Please be right!Please be right!
< / mental note >

JohnnyRoyale · 03-29-2004, 06:02 PM

Beagle? Isn't that usually retreived through an e-mail attachment or something similar? Maybe it's time to check the e-mail scanning on that box?

nanofever · 03-29-2004, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dnd
Q: While you are surfing, a pop-up appears. You click the "uninstall" link, and it asks if you want to run the "pop-up uninstall program". What should you do? Choose one:

1. Click "OK", because popups are bad and uninstalling them seems like a good idea.
2. Place the computer in the oven at 450°F for 20 minutes to kill any viruses
3. Call the kid next door and give him all your passwords
4. Hit "cancel" because running foreign executables is a bad idea.
5. It doesn't matter as long as you have a firewall.

ummm 4?
< mental thought >
Please be right!Please be right!Please be right!Please be right!Please be right!Please be right!
< / mental note >

Oh sorry, the correct answer is running a browser that kills pop-ups or killing the pop-up with task manager, clicking cancel could install a trojan if the box is a bit of java/activex magic.

steveincolumbus · 03-29-2004, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JohnnyRoyale
Beagle? Isn't that usually retreived through an e-mail attachment or something similar? Maybe it's time to check the e-mail scanning on that box?

I have noticed that beagle will go through norton's email scanner without being detected. made $50 today by cleaning a guys system of it

PsychoMan · 03-30-2004, 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nanofever
Oh sorry, the correct answer is running a browser that kills pop-ups or killing the pop-up with task manager, clicking cancel could install a trojan if the box is a bit of java/activex magic.

Ding ding ding! I think we have a winner! When it comes to suspicious computer programs, paranoia is a good thing.

Perhaps I'm not paranoid enough... if it looks like a standard WinXP dialog box, I generally trust it. Of course, I haven't had to cancel a popup in a long time, since my browser blocks them.

bacon_masta · 03-30-2004, 08:43 AM

i worked on a friend's computer fairly recently that looked a lot the same. norton, spybot, window washer, trojan guard, nor hijack this would even begin to clean it, so i ended up reformatting. good luck with repairing that box...

03-28-2004, 09:40 PM	#1 (permalink)
merkerguitars Buffering......... Location: Wisconsin...	Thought you had virus problems? This is a pic of my aunt's computer after I scanned it __________________ Donate now! Ask me How! Please use the search function it is your friend. Look at my mustang please feel free to comment! http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?t=26985

03-28-2004, 10:05 PM	#3 (permalink)
soopafreek Psycho Location: ask your mom	HO-LY CRAP! better install spybot, spyware blaster, ad-aware........... __________________ aaarrrrrgggghhhh!!!!

03-28-2004, 10:06 PM	#4 (permalink)
nanofever Huzzah for Welcome Week, Much beer shall I imbibe. Location: UCSB	A person who knows how to use CloneCD but can't work Norton. Odd. __________________ I'm leaving for the University of California: Santa Barbara in 5 hours, give me your best college advice - things I need, good ideas, bad ideas, nooky, ect. Originally Posted by Norseman on another forum: "Yeah, the problem with the world is the stupid people are all cocksure of themselves and the intellectuals are full of doubt."

03-28-2004, 11:19 PM	#5 (permalink)
SecretMethod70 Human Administrator Location: Chicago	what. the. fuck. kisses Linux __________________ Le temps détruit tout "Musicians are the carriers and communicators of spirit in the most immediate sense." - Kurt Elling

03-29-2004, 04:25 AM	#8 (permalink)
God of Thunder Talk nerdy to me Location: Flint, MI	I had a thread in here awhile ago (too lazy to search for it) declaring me the winner with 1173 infected files. You sir, are now the winner I bow down to thee. Seriously, users need to be aware of what they are doing. Next time I get a user like this I swear I'm gonna tell em to box it up and send it back. They are too stupid to own a computer. /rant /threadjack __________________ I reject your reality, and substitute my own -- Adam Savage

03-28-2004, 09:52 PM	#2 (permalink)
Aletheia Psycho	merk: http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthr...threadid=50552 merk: sfw Aletheia: MY EYES Aletheia: OH GOD * Aletheia eyes burn Sums up my reaction.

03-28-2004, 11:33 PM	#6 (permalink)
viper11885 Insane	I had that blaster worm a while ago. Had a ton of infected files. Can't remember exactly how much, but it was a lot!

03-29-2004, 06:37 AM	#9 (permalink)
merkerguitars Buffering......... Location: Wisconsin...	Well here's how the problem happened. My aunt bought a dell about 3 months ago (the only reason she bought it through dell is it was the only place that would let her do payments with her shitty credit history) So she calls me up and tells me the whole thing is messed up. So I get over there and it's fucked....so she did buy another hard drive so i put it in, installed windows to that drive and put norton on (she previously had some shitty mcaffee online scanner that sucks and doesn't scan emails) scan it and this happened as a result....then i tweaked windows and it runs like a dream, actually her old computer (that my cousin uses now) is still going today after I got rid of ME and put 2k pro on it. My aunt and uncle are reasonably good with computers but I pretty much blame this on the shitty antivirus software that came with it, (yeah she should of installed norton antivirus right away0 __________________ Donate now! Ask me How! Please use the search function it is your friend. Look at my mustang please feel free to comment! http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?t=26985

03-29-2004, 12:22 PM	#11 (permalink)
agball Insane Location: Long Island	Time for the old system restore __________________ "A friend with weed is a friend indeed"

03-29-2004, 12:28 PM	#12 (permalink)
laconic1 Junkie	I have a feeling that if my parents ever connected to the internet they could find a way to top that.

03-29-2004, 01:52 PM	#13 (permalink)
PsychoMan Upright Location: Waterloo, ON	Possible test question. A university professor that I know just bought a new top of the line computer, and paid a high school kid to spend a day or two installing XP, Office, and a bunch of other software on it. The first thing he did while surfing the web was to click on a popup, installing a trojan. He had spent so much time worrying about viruses and getting the kid to install virus software, and he went and ran an unknown foreign executable. So, I propose the following question for our test: Q: While you are surfing, a pop-up appears. You click the "uninstall" link, and it asks if you want to run the "pop-up uninstall program". What should you do? Choose one: 1. Click "OK", because popups are bad and uninstalling them seems like a good idea. 2. Place the computer in the oven at 450°F for 20 minutes to kill any viruses 3. Call the kid next door and give him all your passwords 4. Hit "cancel" because running foreign executables is a bad idea. 5. It doesn't matter as long as you have a firewall.

03-29-2004, 02:08 PM	#14 (permalink)
dnd Psycho Location: London...no longer a student	Q: While you are surfing, a pop-up appears. You click the "uninstall" link, and it asks if you want to run the "pop-up uninstall program". What should you do? Choose one: 1. Click "OK", because popups are bad and uninstalling them seems like a good idea. 2. Place the computer in the oven at 450°F for 20 minutes to kill any viruses 3. Call the kid next door and give him all your passwords 4. Hit "cancel" because running foreign executables is a bad idea. 5. It doesn't matter as long as you have a firewall. ummm 4? < mental thought > Please be right!Please be right!Please be right!Please be right!Please be right!Please be right! < / mental note > __________________ "Never underestimate a dumb question"-- Brandon Boyd Last edited by dnd; 03-29-2004 at 02:12 PM..

03-29-2004, 06:02 PM	#15 (permalink)
JohnnyRoyale Psycho Location: Boston, MAss., USA	Beagle? Isn't that usually retreived through an e-mail attachment or something similar? Maybe it's time to check the e-mail scanning on that box? __________________ I'm gonna be rich and famous, as soon I invent a device that lets you stab people in the face over the internet.

03-30-2004, 08:43 AM	#19 (permalink)
bacon_masta Psycho Location: i live in the state of denial	i worked on a friend's computer fairly recently that looked a lot the same. norton, spybot, window washer, trojan guard, nor hijack this would even begin to clean it, so i ended up reformatting. good luck with repairing that box...