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Mister B · 01-14-2004, 08:49 PM

I bought what I think is a Radeon 9700 Pro, but I am unsure if thats what I got. When I right click properties and go to display, it lists that card as Radeon 9500 PRO/9700.

Does this mean it is one of the two and not the 9700 PRO? Can anyone with this card verify that?

I just ran 3dMark 03 and got a 4248 which I think is a little low.

Here are the specs

P4 2.2 Gz 533mhz fsb

512mb rdram

BTW, the card is in 4x mode if that matters. I'm beggining to think I got ripped off.

The_Dude · 01-14-2004, 09:09 PM

it displays what the firmware on the card tells it to display.

go to start->run

type in 'dxdiag' and see if it tells u anything different.

Mister B · 01-14-2004, 10:14 PM

Under name it says Radeon 9500 PRO / 9700

Under chip type it says Radeion 9700 AGP

and for DAC type it says DAC 400mhz

The_Dude · 01-14-2004, 10:20 PM

well then u have a 9700 pro.

i'm guessin they use the same kinda architecture or something.

Redjake · 01-15-2004, 08:28 AM

I heard of the same story with a guy a while back. He returned his card and got a "real" 9700 Pro or something, he said. He may have been full of shit and actually had a 9700 Pro to begin with, but I have definitely heard of this situation before...

Lasereth · 01-15-2004, 08:30 AM

First off, a score of 4,248 in 3d Mark 2003 is incredibly high for a Radeon 9700 Pro. My PC is an Athlon XP 1900+ with a GeForce 4 TI4200 and it gets about 1,200 on 3d Mark 2003. A friend of mine gets about 3,300 with his 9700 Pro and 2.4 GHz P4.

Secondly, this happened to one of my friends before. He took the videocard back and they gave him another one. I don't know what his said in dxdiag, but he did take it back because of the display listing.

You may have a 9700 Pro, but you may not. The Radeon 9500 Pro can be overclocked to 9700 Pro status VERY easily, so you may have been ripped into buying a factory overclocked Radeon 9500 Pro. This is not uncommon with today's manufacturers, especially with the likes of Powercolor.

I'll get my friend to run dxdiag and see what his 9700 Pro says!

-Lasereth

tinfoil · 01-15-2004, 11:21 AM

Have you checked the proc / mem speed on the chip yet?

The 9700/9700Pro are difficult to tell apart. Mine is a standard 9700 afaik, though 3DMark says it's a Pro. It runs at 325Mhz and scores 4357 on my old Athlon XP2100.

Mister B · 01-15-2004, 02:44 PM

Tinfoil - It list the internal dac as 400mhz. Is that the same as the proc speed? Don't know about the memory speed. How can I find out?

Maybe I was just expecting too much out of this card. The only reason I am starting to investigate it is due to the fact that the name was 9500 PRO/9700, and the fact that it runs Halo like crap.

I bought the thing for hl-2 and doom and it can't even run halo smoothly which is a couple years old. Anyway, thanks for the help guys.

firebirdta · 01-15-2004, 03:07 PM

Halo isn't a couple years old. The port came out just a bit ago, actually. It does, however, tend to run like crap on just about any system. I wouldn't worry about it if I were you.

R_one · 01-15-2004, 03:18 PM

Okay, let's make this simple.

Download http://www2.ati.com/drivers/ati-util-may2003.exe

from the Ati website and install the package. Open it and click the "Adapter Information" from the tools menu and it'll tell you all that you little hear disires. About that card atleast.

01-14-2004, 08:49 PM	#1 (permalink)
Mister B Insane Location: Burbs of St.Lou	Radeon Video Card Question I bought what I think is a Radeon 9700 Pro, but I am unsure if thats what I got. When I right click properties and go to display, it lists that card as Radeon 9500 PRO/9700. Does this mean it is one of the two and not the 9700 PRO? Can anyone with this card verify that? I just ran 3dMark 03 and got a 4248 which I think is a little low. Here are the specs P4 2.2 Gz 533mhz fsb 512mb rdram BTW, the card is in 4x mode if that matters. I'm beggining to think I got ripped off. __________________ "Little racoons and old possums 'n' stuff all live up in here. They've got to have a little place to sit." Bob Ross.

01-14-2004, 09:09 PM	#2 (permalink)
The_Dude The GrandDaddy of them all! Location: Austin, TX	it displays what the firmware on the card tells it to display. go to start->run type in 'dxdiag' and see if it tells u anything different. __________________ "Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity." - Darrel K Royal

01-14-2004, 10:14 PM	#3 (permalink)
Mister B Insane Location: Burbs of St.Lou	Under name it says Radeon 9500 PRO / 9700 Under chip type it says Radeion 9700 AGP and for DAC type it says DAC 400mhz __________________ "Little racoons and old possums 'n' stuff all live up in here. They've got to have a little place to sit." Bob Ross.

01-14-2004, 10:20 PM	#4 (permalink)
The_Dude The GrandDaddy of them all! Location: Austin, TX	well then u have a 9700 pro. i'm guessin they use the same kinda architecture or something. __________________ "Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity." - Darrel K Royal

01-15-2004, 08:28 AM	#5 (permalink)
Redjake I'm a family man - I run a family business. Location: Wilson, NC	I heard of the same story with a guy a while back. He returned his card and got a "real" 9700 Pro or something, he said. He may have been full of shit and actually had a 9700 Pro to begin with, but I have definitely heard of this situation before... __________________ Off the record, on the q.t., and very hush-hush.

01-15-2004, 08:30 AM	#6 (permalink)
Lasereth Knight of the Old Republic Location: Winston-Salem, NC	First off, a score of 4,248 in 3d Mark 2003 is incredibly high for a Radeon 9700 Pro. My PC is an Athlon XP 1900+ with a GeForce 4 TI4200 and it gets about 1,200 on 3d Mark 2003. A friend of mine gets about 3,300 with his 9700 Pro and 2.4 GHz P4. Secondly, this happened to one of my friends before. He took the videocard back and they gave him another one. I don't know what his said in dxdiag, but he did take it back because of the display listing. You may have a 9700 Pro, but you may not. The Radeon 9500 Pro can be overclocked to 9700 Pro status VERY easily, so you may have been ripped into buying a factory overclocked Radeon 9500 Pro. This is not uncommon with today's manufacturers, especially with the likes of Powercolor. I'll get my friend to run dxdiag and see what his 9700 Pro says! -Lasereth __________________ "A Darwinian attacks his theory, seeking to find flaws. An ID believer defends his theory, seeking to conceal flaws." -Roger Ebert

01-15-2004, 11:21 AM	#7 (permalink)
tinfoil Fucking Hostile Location: Springford, ON, Canada	Have you checked the proc / mem speed on the chip yet? The 9700/9700Pro are difficult to tell apart. Mine is a standard 9700 afaik, though 3DMark says it's a Pro. It runs at 325Mhz and scores 4357 on my old Athlon XP2100. __________________ Get off your fuckin cross. We need the fuckin space to nail the next fool martyr.

01-15-2004, 02:44 PM	#8 (permalink)
Mister B Insane Location: Burbs of St.Lou	Tinfoil - It list the internal dac as 400mhz. Is that the same as the proc speed? Don't know about the memory speed. How can I find out? Maybe I was just expecting too much out of this card. The only reason I am starting to investigate it is due to the fact that the name was 9500 PRO/9700, and the fact that it runs Halo like crap. I bought the thing for hl-2 and doom and it can't even run halo smoothly which is a couple years old. Anyway, thanks for the help guys. __________________ "Little racoons and old possums 'n' stuff all live up in here. They've got to have a little place to sit." Bob Ross.

01-15-2004, 03:07 PM	#9 (permalink)
firebirdta Crazy	Halo isn't a couple years old. The port came out just a bit ago, actually. It does, however, tend to run like crap on just about any system. I wouldn't worry about it if I were you. __________________ "Even if you prove me wrong, I'm not going to believe you." - A. McGill

01-15-2004, 03:18 PM	#10 (permalink)
R_one Crazy	Okay, let's make this simple. Download http://www2.ati.com/drivers/ati-util-may2003.exe from the Ati website and install the package. Open it and click the "Adapter Information" from the tools menu and it'll tell you all that you little hear disires. About that card atleast.