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Halx · 12-15-2003, 12:13 PM

http://www.sale-oem.biz

My friend just sent me this site. His company is contemplating using this route for software, but they are concerned about the validity. What do YOU guys think?

Redlemon · 12-15-2003, 12:33 PM

The WHOIS puts the company in Ekaterenburg, Russian Federation, and was registered December 2, 2003. So, there'll be no history, and very hard to track down if there's a problem.

(used http://www.whois.biz/)

Redlemon · 12-15-2003, 12:40 PM

Also, Google reports no links to them, but Google Groups shows much spam generated by them, reported in news.admin.net-abuse.sightings. So, just due to the fact that they are spammers, tells me NO on using them.

"Thou shalt never purchase from spammers."

Ashton · 12-15-2003, 12:45 PM

LOL! It's teh Russian Mob selling cracked copies they downloaded off the net.

Lasereth · 12-15-2003, 01:22 PM

www.resellerratings.com has nothing on them at all. Google reports nothing. I made up a fake name and CC number and submitted an order for XP Professional. It actually told me the CC number wasn't correct, so they have some sort of data validation going on there.

XP Pro for $40 seems too good to be true, so I don't know what to tell ya. I wouldn't risk it simply because all I can find is jackshit info on them, and jack left town.

The products ARE OEM, so they come with no manuals, instructions, boxes, nothing -- only the CD and key. That would be the reason it's so low-priced, but OEM items are usually never this low.

-Lasereth

Halx · 12-15-2003, 02:10 PM

Ok guys.. check it out.. on the faq..

"This software is recognized as a backup software. "

That basically means that they are not selling licenses, only copies of a disc.

Warez.

junglistic · 12-15-2003, 02:11 PM

Arent there stipulations to buying OEM software. Like it has to be purchased with the sale of a system?

And retail is to be purcahsed by the general public.

I dont think photoshop is sold in OEM format, windows yes, but ps no.

soccerchamp76 · 12-15-2003, 02:31 PM

How would they make copies of XP though, I know Microsoft would have definite protection against that.

Lasereth · 12-15-2003, 03:59 PM

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Originally posted by soccerchamp76
How would they make copies of XP though, I know Microsoft would have definite protection against that.

I won't say anything other than this isn't always the case.

-Lasereth

MontanaXVI · 12-15-2003, 04:23 PM

wouldnt touch it with the whitesnake

but seriously i have to commend them on the lack of popups thats always a plus when looking at warez

sailor · 12-15-2003, 04:23 PM

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Originally posted by soccerchamp76
How would they make copies of XP though, I know Microsoft would have definite protection against that.

Not only that, but Microsoft does sell copies of disks that have no licences attached. They arent meant to be sold like this, but are instead used for larger setups where it is impractical to buy a box set for each machine. The user then reports how many installs they made and purchase that many licences. I have one such disk (given to me by a microsoft rep, no less

).

That said, this would mean that these copies they are selling are not legal to use--they have no license. Thats a no go, especially for a business. Sorry.

soccerchamp76 · 12-15-2003, 07:48 PM

I do know there are ways around everything.

Funny that they note that they will give you the key to make it work, but they tell you NOT to register with the company.....fishy

kapoho · 12-17-2003, 07:19 PM

This company is may be providing you with illegal copies of M$ software. Use at your own risk. If you purchace OEM software, you have to buy a peice of hardware with it; ie a NIC, patch cable, something unless you are reselling it. If you are reselling it, you are required to sell some piece of hardware with it. (part of M$ OEM software liscensing agreement). I would not advise using this for a company because of the questionable nature of its source; M$ will sue if it is illegal and they find out about it, especially in a business environment. The company I work for is a M$ certified reseller and OEM system builder, I have to explain M$ jacked up licensing system at least 3-4 times per day to customers. Hope this helps. As for the Adobe, I am not sure on thier licensing, although that is a damn cheap price if it is legit.

Fearless_Hyena · 12-17-2003, 10:48 PM

Just like Halx said, it's warez. You'll never qualify for the "license agreement", whatever it states, so save yourself some cash!! You're just basically paying them to burn the CD for you. If you're gonna do that, then just clone everything or install each box from the same single-user license, it's about the same. You may never get "busted", but I don't think those Russian guys selling the stuff are ever gonna get busted, either....

Snakebyt · 12-18-2003, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Halx
Ok guys.. check it out.. on the faq..

"This software is recognized as a backup software. "

That basically means that they are not selling licenses, only copies of a disc.

Warez.

hell you can do that for free at home.. what a scam

yotta · 12-24-2003, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lasereth
www.resellerratings.com has nothing on them at all. Google reports nothing. I made up a fake name and CC number and submitted an order for XP Professional. It actually told me the CC number wasn't correct, so they have some sort of data validation going on there.
-Lasereth

Credit card numbers employ checksumming to protect against typos. You probably entered one with an invlaid checksum.

Also, these guys don't have SSL order processing. NEVER submit your credit card number to a company that doesn't have SSL order processing.

Lasereth · 12-24-2003, 08:43 PM

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Originally posted by yotta
Credit card numbers employ checksumming to protect against typos. You probably entered one with an invlaid checksum.

Yeah, that's why I said that had some sort of data validation going on. At least they made the effort to go that far.

-Lasereth

MSD · 12-24-2003, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lasereth
Yeah, that's why I said that had some sort of data validation going on. At least they made the effort to go that far.

-Lasereth

Search Google for "free credit card validation script" and you'll get dozens of things that do that. I can check whether card #'s are valid or not no my cell phone or graphing calculator.

12-15-2003, 12:13 PM	#1 (permalink)
Halx Please touch this. Owner/Admin Location: Manhattan	Save $500+ On Photoshop, Illustrator an more?!?!? This has gotta be a scam. http://www.sale-oem.biz My friend just sent me this site. His company is contemplating using this route for software, but they are concerned about the validity. What do YOU guys think? __________________ You have found this post informative. -The Administrator [Don't Feed The Animals]

12-15-2003, 12:33 PM	#2 (permalink)
Redlemon Devoted Donor Location: New England	The WHOIS puts the company in Ekaterenburg, Russian Federation, and was registered December 2, 2003. So, there'll be no history, and very hard to track down if there's a problem. (used http://www.whois.biz/) __________________ I can't read your signature. Sorry.

12-15-2003, 12:40 PM	#3 (permalink)
Redlemon Devoted Donor Location: New England	Also, Google reports no links to them, but Google Groups shows much spam generated by them, reported in news.admin.net-abuse.sightings. So, just due to the fact that they are spammers, tells me NO on using them. "Thou shalt never purchase from spammers." __________________ I can't read your signature. Sorry.

12-15-2003, 01:22 PM	#5 (permalink)
Lasereth Knight of the Old Republic Location: Winston-Salem, NC	www.resellerratings.com has nothing on them at all. Google reports nothing. I made up a fake name and CC number and submitted an order for XP Professional. It actually told me the CC number wasn't correct, so they have some sort of data validation going on there. XP Pro for $40 seems too good to be true, so I don't know what to tell ya. I wouldn't risk it simply because all I can find is jackshit info on them, and jack left town. The products ARE OEM, so they come with no manuals, instructions, boxes, nothing -- only the CD and key. That would be the reason it's so low-priced, but OEM items are usually never this low. -Lasereth __________________ "A Darwinian attacks his theory, seeking to find flaws. An ID believer defends his theory, seeking to conceal flaws." -Roger Ebert

12-15-2003, 02:10 PM	#6 (permalink)
Halx Please touch this. Owner/Admin Location: Manhattan	Ok guys.. check it out.. on the faq.. "This software is recognized as a backup software. " That basically means that they are not selling licenses, only copies of a disc. Warez. __________________ You have found this post informative. -The Administrator [Don't Feed The Animals]

12-15-2003, 12:45 PM	#4 (permalink)
Ashton PORNHOUND Location: California	LOL! It's teh Russian Mob selling cracked copies they downloaded off the net.

12-15-2003, 02:11 PM	#7 (permalink)
junglistic Insane	Arent there stipulations to buying OEM software. Like it has to be purchased with the sale of a system? And retail is to be purcahsed by the general public. I dont think photoshop is sold in OEM format, windows yes, but ps no.

12-15-2003, 02:31 PM	#8 (permalink)
soccerchamp76 Go Cardinals Location: St. Louis/Cincinnati	How would they make copies of XP though, I know Microsoft would have definite protection against that. __________________ Brian Griffin: Ah, if my memory serves me, this is the physics department. Chris Griffin: That would explain all the gravity.

12-15-2003, 04:23 PM	#10 (permalink)
MontanaXVI Junkie Location: Go A's!!!!	wouldnt touch it with the whitesnake but seriously i have to commend them on the lack of popups thats always a plus when looking at warez __________________ Spank you very much

12-15-2003, 07:48 PM	#12 (permalink)
soccerchamp76 Go Cardinals Location: St. Louis/Cincinnati	I do know there are ways around everything. Funny that they note that they will give you the key to make it work, but they tell you NOT to register with the company.....fishy __________________ Brian Griffin: Ah, if my memory serves me, this is the physics department. Chris Griffin: That would explain all the gravity.

12-17-2003, 07:19 PM	#13 (permalink)
kapoho Crazy Location: BF	This company is may be providing you with illegal copies of M$ software. Use at your own risk. If you purchace OEM software, you have to buy a peice of hardware with it; ie a NIC, patch cable, something unless you are reselling it. If you are reselling it, you are required to sell some piece of hardware with it. (part of M$ OEM software liscensing agreement). I would not advise using this for a company because of the questionable nature of its source; M$ will sue if it is illegal and they find out about it, especially in a business environment. The company I work for is a M$ certified reseller and OEM system builder, I have to explain M$ jacked up licensing system at least 3-4 times per day to customers. Hope this helps. As for the Adobe, I am not sure on thier licensing, although that is a damn cheap price if it is legit. Last edited by kapoho; 12-17-2003 at 07:31 PM..

12-17-2003, 10:48 PM	#14 (permalink)
Fearless_Hyena Hello, good evening, and bollocks. Location: near DC	Just like Halx said, it's warez. You'll never qualify for the "license agreement", whatever it states, so save yourself some cash!! You're just basically paying them to burn the CD for you. If you're gonna do that, then just clone everything or install each box from the same single-user license, it's about the same. You may never get "busted", but I don't think those Russian guys selling the stuff are ever gonna get busted, either....