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Superbelt · 09-13-2003, 03:39 PM

I am setting up a home network for my fiancee and her two roomates. I have been able to get each computer online separately, when I have it connected directly to the cable modem (Motorola Surfboard) But when I hook them up to the router (netgear ethernet hub) I can only get one computer online at a time, always the first one I turn on.

The computers are an iMac 9.0.4 and two Win98's

Can anyone offer up a solution to help me get these all three online at once?

steveincolumbus · 09-13-2003, 04:33 PM

first off is the cable modem plugged into the WAN connection on it?

Superbelt · 09-13-2003, 05:12 PM

Yes it is.

yodapaul · 09-13-2003, 06:50 PM

what is the model number of the netgear unit?

Superbelt · 09-13-2003, 07:45 PM

The netgear is an EN 104tp

The surfboard is a Sb5100

cliv · 09-13-2003, 08:17 PM

Do you have DHCP enabled for the router ?

If DHCP is diabled, the router will act as a hub only and the first computer the modem sees will get the IP address assigned by your ISP and only that computer will be able to access the internet.

If DHCP is enabled, the router will take the IP address from the modem for itself and assign internal IP addresses to all three computers, allowing all three computers to access the internet using the router's one IP address. The process is called Network Address Translation (NAT), if you wanted to know.

Bottom line, setting DHCP to "enable" should solve your problem.

oiekeooiyw · 09-13-2003, 10:00 PM

the problem is that you are using a hub, not a cable modem router.
with a hub, you will have to purchase extra IP's from your ISP. otherwise, get a cable modem router and that will solve your problem.

Mr.Deflok · 09-14-2003, 12:18 AM

Has your router been configured to have the IP address your ISP has assigned for your connection? If so have your two hosts got different IP addresses to each other and the router? So that the router knows were to forward data?

A friend of mine had this very same problem using a Motorolla Surfboard SB4200 Cable Modem.

JBX · 09-14-2003, 06:28 AM

Okay, first you get one of those kiddy pools at Walmart. Then lots of jello. Your fiancee and her two roomates get into the jello filled pool... ahh crap this is the Networking Thread. Sorry

I see the problem as oiekeooiyw does. Is it a Router Hub or just a hub?

Lasereth · 09-14-2003, 07:04 AM

Yeah, if you have a hub, it won't work, but a router will definitely get the job done. If you do have a router, make sure DHCP is enabled.

-Lasereth

Superbelt · 09-15-2003, 08:04 AM

Thanks for the help everyone. I didn't know you couldn't use a hub. I think I know where to get my hands on a router so I'll give it another try

Fiancee said no jello.

JBX · 09-15-2003, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Superbelt

Fiancee said no jello.

So sad

DEI37 · 09-15-2003, 07:14 PM

Yeah, that would have made a great Exhibition thread! Anyways...let us know how the router situation works out.

krd913 · 09-15-2003, 08:47 PM

Go to the store for around $40 you can get a linksys router that can handle up to 4 computers with one ip

09-13-2003, 03:39 PM	#1 (permalink)
Superbelt This vexes me. I am terribly vexed. Location: Grantville, Pa	Home Networking help I am setting up a home network for my fiancee and her two roomates. I have been able to get each computer online separately, when I have it connected directly to the cable modem (Motorola Surfboard) But when I hook them up to the router (netgear ethernet hub) I can only get one computer online at a time, always the first one I turn on. The computers are an iMac 9.0.4 and two Win98's Can anyone offer up a solution to help me get these all three online at once?

09-13-2003, 06:50 PM	#4 (permalink)
yodapaul Insane Location: MN	what is the model number of the netgear unit? __________________ I'm Just here to help. Now, Where is your problem?

09-13-2003, 08:17 PM	#6 (permalink)
cliv Insane Location: New Jersey, USA	Do you have DHCP enabled for the router ? If DHCP is diabled, the router will act as a hub only and the first computer the modem sees will get the IP address assigned by your ISP and only that computer will be able to access the internet. If DHCP is enabled, the router will take the IP address from the modem for itself and assign internal IP addresses to all three computers, allowing all three computers to access the internet using the router's one IP address. The process is called Network Address Translation (NAT), if you wanted to know. Bottom line, setting DHCP to "enable" should solve your problem. Last edited by cliv; 09-13-2003 at 08:32 PM..

09-14-2003, 06:28 AM	#9 (permalink)
JBX Unfair and Imbalanced Location: Upstate, NY	Okay, first you get one of those kiddy pools at Walmart. Then lots of jello. Your fiancee and her two roomates get into the jello filled pool... ahh crap this is the Networking Thread. Sorry I see the problem as oiekeooiyw does. Is it a Router Hub or just a hub? __________________ "Youth and Strength is no match for Age and Treachery"

09-14-2003, 07:04 AM	#10 (permalink)
Lasereth Knight of the Old Republic Location: Winston-Salem, NC	Yeah, if you have a hub, it won't work, but a router will definitely get the job done. If you do have a router, make sure DHCP is enabled. -Lasereth __________________ "A Darwinian attacks his theory, seeking to find flaws. An ID believer defends his theory, seeking to conceal flaws." -Roger Ebert

09-13-2003, 04:33 PM	#2 (permalink)
steveincolumbus Psycho Location: BFE, Kentucky	first off is the cable modem plugged into the WAN connection on it?

09-13-2003, 05:12 PM	#3 (permalink)
Superbelt This vexes me. I am terribly vexed. Location: Grantville, Pa	Yes it is.

09-13-2003, 07:45 PM	#5 (permalink)
Superbelt This vexes me. I am terribly vexed. Location: Grantville, Pa	The netgear is an EN 104tp The surfboard is a Sb5100

09-13-2003, 10:00 PM	#7 (permalink)
oiekeooiyw Insane	the problem is that you are using a hub, not a cable modem router. with a hub, you will have to purchase extra IP's from your ISP. otherwise, get a cable modem router and that will solve your problem.

09-14-2003, 12:18 AM	#8 (permalink)
Mr.Deflok Blood + Fire Location: New Zealand	Has your router been configured to have the IP address your ISP has assigned for your connection? If so have your two hosts got different IP addresses to each other and the router? So that the router knows were to forward data? A friend of mine had this very same problem using a Motorolla Surfboard SB4200 Cable Modem.

09-15-2003, 08:04 AM	#11 (permalink)
Superbelt This vexes me. I am terribly vexed. Location: Grantville, Pa	Thanks for the help everyone. I didn't know you couldn't use a hub. I think I know where to get my hands on a router so I'll give it another try Fiancee said no jello.

09-15-2003, 07:14 PM	#13 (permalink)
DEI37 Go faster! Location: Wisconsin	Yeah, that would have made a great Exhibition thread! Anyways...let us know how the router situation works out. __________________ Generally speaking, if you were to get what you really deserve, you might be unpleasantly surprised.

09-15-2003, 08:47 PM	#14 (permalink)
krd913 Crazy	Go to the store for around $40 you can get a linksys router that can handle up to 4 computers with one ip