how can i view real video w/o the real player - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

dtheriault · 08-24-2003, 01:18 AM

i hate the real player. however they're are sites where the only option to view or listen to media files is to use the real player. is there a third party solution to viewing real video without the real player?

i need to see hockey night in canada!

Great Scott · 08-24-2003, 03:04 AM

I have seen a player called the real alternative on Kazaa lite's site. www.kazaalite.tk Couldn't tell you if it will play the streaming media cause I have never tried it, but I'm sure it's worth a look.

Fallen · 08-24-2003, 08:08 AM

Uggg... I hate Real Player. I don't know a single person who likes it. I can't believe it's still around.

Coucher · 08-25-2003, 06:35 AM

Download the latest ACE Codec Pack Proffessional and it comes with their own version of Media Player 6.4 called Media Player Classic that will play Real Media files and Quicktime files.

goof7ball · 08-25-2003, 08:27 AM

I probably shouldn't admit this, but I work at Real. Other than the adds (which, with some effort, can be shutoff) what do you hate about it?

txd · 08-25-2003, 08:46 AM

mplayer should play them I think, its unix based software but there is a cygwin port

Johnny Rotten · 08-25-2003, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by goof7ball
I probably shouldn't admit this, but I work at Real. Other than the adds (which, with some effort, can be shutoff) what do you hate about it?

Real is a bit intrusive, in that it tends to override player settings (trying to make itself the default for most of your video and audio files). Plus it installs a largely unneccesary loader in the system tray that pops up annoying messages from time to time.

Also, most people I know just want to play files and don't want some kind of multimedia product center that looks like the AOL window that comes up after logging on.

It also installs some uneccesary services like tkbell, which is relatively difficult to get rid of and doesn't offer much to the end user.

Plus there's the junkmai, if you don't uncheck the automagically checked box which allows Real and its "partners" to send you offers to buy stuff.

CSflim · 08-25-2003, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Johnny Rotten
Real is a bit intrusive,

Understatment of the century!

AL9045 · 08-25-2003, 11:58 AM

Someone should go tell Real to die.

I mean it basically serves no purpose but to piss people off.

WMP can get most video/audio files done.
And Quicktime has good movie trailers.

rubicon · 08-25-2003, 12:00 PM

Real's ads, system tray icon, seemingly "gazillions" of nagware checkboxes to turn off, and hijacking of media file defaults is a hassle.

I like small, simple apps like CoolPlayer. It plays MP3 files - period. No SETUP, no Registry shenanigans, no unncessary features.

AL9045 · 08-25-2003, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rubicon
Real's ads, system tray icon, seemingly "gazillions" of nagware checkboxes to turn off, and hijacking of media file defaults is a hassle.

I like small, simple apps like CoolPlayer. It plays MP3 files - period. No SETUP, no Registry shenanigans, no unncessary features.

Me too, I like the Windows Media Player Classic, it runs well on my shitty comp and doesn't take up that much memory either.

Coucher · 08-25-2003, 01:15 PM

RealPlayer sucks!

Heheheee......

Mr.Deflok · 08-25-2003, 05:16 PM

Love that photo Coucher!!!

poof · 08-25-2003, 07:37 PM

The clarity of the image isn't very nice either.

skinbag · 08-26-2003, 05:48 AM

I admit I use realplayer. Mediaplayer for mac sucks ass, and I haven't bothered looking for alternatives to real. I was also unaware of all the intrusive stuff. I'm learning so much here..

kalisto_911 · 08-26-2003, 07:21 AM

What is your position Goof7Ball? Just Curious.
And awesome picture Coucher!

Holo · 08-26-2003, 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by goof7ball
I probably shouldn't admit this, but I work at Real. Other than the adds (which, with some effort, can be shutoff) what do you hate about it?

Asides from all the other very valid points that were already made, the compression is wayyy too lossy and it doesn't display well at lower bitrates. As much as I hate to admit, WMV is superior in this regard. What do I prefer personally? Mpeg2

And to answer the original question; Search all P2P networks for a program called Helix..it plays rms and is standalone. On the rare occasion I dl an rm I use it and it's a very spartan player but it does work.

tux · 08-26-2003, 09:58 AM

goof7ball · 08-28-2003, 08:27 AM

I can't argue with the comments about the RealOne Player being intrusive- it is, and I hate that about it too. Sales/Marketing is driven by a single goal - making their numbers. Huge battles have been fought within the company over this topic and, happily, I can tell you that things are getting better. Sadly, you have all been burned already so when each new (and improved) version comes out you're not likely to try it and realize that it is indeed better.

Later today I'll install the last publicly released version of the RealOne Player and then I'll post step-by-step instructions for disabling the message center, and the datatype stealling. The player has a great MP3 database and easy CD Burning. The CD ripper is great, and if you choose to subscribe to SuperPass a lot of the content is pretty good too (CNN, ABC, MLB, NBA, NASCAR,...).

Holo: I don't think you are comparing apples to apples with your observation about video qaulity. Independent tests have shown RealVideo to be superior to Windows Media at almost all (if not every) data rate(s)- were the two clips encoded at the same bit rate, and were they both using the latest codecs?

08-24-2003, 01:18 AM	#1 (permalink)
dtheriault Psycho Location: maybe utah	how can i view real video w/o the real player i hate the real player. however they're are sites where the only option to view or listen to media files is to use the real player. is there a third party solution to viewing real video without the real player? i need to see hockey night in canada! __________________ "Remember, it takes two to lie. One to lie and one to listen." -Homer Unless you are the freakin Highlander, what is the point in learning how to fight with a sword?

08-24-2003, 08:08 AM	#3 (permalink)
Fallen Crazy Location: Adrift In Madness	Uggg... I hate Real Player. I don't know a single person who likes it. I can't believe it's still around. __________________ Overdosed on Apathy

08-25-2003, 06:35 AM	#4 (permalink)
Coucher Tilted	Download the latest ACE Codec Pack Proffessional and it comes with their own version of Media Player 6.4 called Media Player Classic that will play Real Media files and Quicktime files. __________________ I use to have a problem finishing things I started, but now I....

08-25-2003, 12:00 PM	#10 (permalink)
rubicon Stop. Think. Question. Location: Redondo Beach, CA	Real's ads, system tray icon, seemingly "gazillions" of nagware checkboxes to turn off, and hijacking of media file defaults is a hassle. I like small, simple apps like CoolPlayer. It plays MP3 files - period. No SETUP, no Registry shenanigans, no unncessary features. __________________ How you do anything is how you do everything.

08-25-2003, 01:15 PM	#12 (permalink)
Coucher Tilted	RealPlayer sucks! Heheheee...... __________________ I use to have a problem finishing things I started, but now I....

08-24-2003, 03:04 AM	#2 (permalink)
Great Scott Insane Location: In a huge maze just trying to find my cheese	I have seen a player called the real alternative on Kazaa lite's site. www.kazaalite.tk Couldn't tell you if it will play the streaming media cause I have never tried it, but I'm sure it's worth a look.

08-25-2003, 08:27 AM	#5 (permalink)
goof7ball Tilted	I probably shouldn't admit this, but I work at Real. Other than the adds (which, with some effort, can be shutoff) what do you hate about it?

08-25-2003, 08:46 AM	#6 (permalink)
txd Addict	mplayer should play them I think, its unix based software but there is a cygwin port

08-25-2003, 11:58 AM	#9 (permalink)
AL9045 Addict Location: Virginia	Someone should go tell Real to die. I mean it basically serves no purpose but to piss people off. WMP can get most video/audio files done. And Quicktime has good movie trailers.

08-25-2003, 05:16 PM	#13 (permalink)
Mr.Deflok Blood + Fire Location: New Zealand	Love that photo Coucher!!!

08-25-2003, 07:37 PM	#14 (permalink)
poof Psycho	The clarity of the image isn't very nice either.

08-26-2003, 05:48 AM	#15 (permalink)
skinbag Registered User Location: Madison WI	I admit I use realplayer. Mediaplayer for mac sucks ass, and I haven't bothered looking for alternatives to real. I was also unaware of all the intrusive stuff. I'm learning so much here..

08-26-2003, 07:21 AM	#16 (permalink)
kalisto_911 Psycho Location: Dreams	What is your position Goof7Ball? Just Curious. And awesome picture Coucher! __________________ I know not how I may seem to others, but to myself I am but a small child wandering upon the vast shores of knowledge, every now and then finding a small bright pebble to content myself with. [Plato]

08-26-2003, 09:58 AM	#18 (permalink)
tux Upright Location: Columbus Ga	rofl __________________ "Im a mushroom cloud laying motherfucker, motherfucker"

08-28-2003, 08:27 AM	#19 (permalink)
goof7ball Tilted	I can't argue with the comments about the RealOne Player being intrusive- it is, and I hate that about it too. Sales/Marketing is driven by a single goal - making their numbers. Huge battles have been fought within the company over this topic and, happily, I can tell you that things are getting better. Sadly, you have all been burned already so when each new (and improved) version comes out you're not likely to try it and realize that it is indeed better. Later today I'll install the last publicly released version of the RealOne Player and then I'll post step-by-step instructions for disabling the message center, and the datatype stealling. The player has a great MP3 database and easy CD Burning. The CD ripper is great, and if you choose to subscribe to SuperPass a lot of the content is pretty good too (CNN, ABC, MLB, NBA, NASCAR,...). Holo: I don't think you are comparing apples to apples with your observation about video qaulity. Independent tests have shown RealVideo to be superior to Windows Media at almost all (if not every) data rate(s)- were the two clips encoded at the same bit rate, and were they both using the latest codecs?