Wyodiver33

Howdy all.

I used the Windows 7 beta for a long time. But then the time limit hit me. Being short, money wise, I tried Umbutu Linux. I've dabbled with Linux for years, but it's not for me. So I went back to XP Pro. I hated it. I used to love XP, but after using 7 for so long, XP just seemed old and clunky.

So I bought the OEM version of Windows 7 Home Premium from Newegg.

I'm happy.

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Baraka_Guru

Stuck with Vista....

At least my production computer uses OS X.

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LordEden

Does this post have a point? Just wondering where you want this thread to go.

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I like linux, except for the few limitations (video games is the biggest one) it works great for me. I like the ability to change whatever you want in the system.

I run TinyXP right now with VMware running ubuntu 10.04. Does everything I need too and XP is stable when you don't do anthing in it.

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Baraka_Guru

This is fucking hilarious...because it's true. A stable Windows machine is an off Windows machine.

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Wyodiver33

LordEden, sorry if I wasn't clear. I really didn't want to spend the money for Win 7. But when the Beta expired I had two legal choices: Windows XP Pro, or Linux. I was so spoiled by the Beta Win 7, XP and Linux just didn't "work" for me. I tried Vista and hated it. MS got Win 7 right, in my opinion. Trust me, I'm not a MS fanboy.

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Have any of you had bad luck buying/installing OEM MS Windows?

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LordEden

All I install is OEM copies of, dell/gateway/hp install a crap ton of bloatware on your PC. I like the smallest version of windows xp. Which is why I like TinyXP.

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Shadowex3

Do you have a .edu email address and $30?

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Cynthetiq

I installed a great version of Win7. It's got a great loader which allows me to remove all the items I don't want or use. While that was great when storage was a premium, I kind of don't care so much.

As far as linux, I got ubuntu finally, but eh, also don't care about what I can and cannot configure. I just use it to keep the corporate snoops from snooping.

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ASU2003

I use Linux Mint, and it took care of setting up everything for me.

I also use Mac OS X, but only to manage music and photos. I also have Steam on it, but will wait to play Half Life 2 until the temperatures outside are too cold.

Wyodiver33

Sorry kids, Win 7 is great.

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LordEden

For you maybe, I'm not a huge fan of it. I have to learn it for work, but if not for the want for gaming (I hate fucking around with wine with video games, to much configuration) I'd be completely linux.

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Martian

These arguments always go the same way -- that is to say, nowhere.

The best operating system for a given operation depends on the requirements of the user.

I use both Windows XP and Linux. Both satisfy my needs in different areas. I don't have enough experience with 7 to say much about it, but I'm thrilled for you that you like it. Really.

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LordEden

Martian is right... God why does my soul shrivel when I say that?

Argument is moot.

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Baraka_Guru

This isn't even an argument. Where's the argument? An argument can't go anywhere if there isn't one to begin with. I think that's telling though. It's like there's some assumption that there's going to be an argument because more than one operating system was mentioned in a thread. That amuses me.

Anyway, I view Windows 7 as "Vista, but fixed." I will get it one day.

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Jove

I have no reason to use Linux, so someone give me a reason to mess around with Linux and I will.

Wyodiver33

I never intended to argue about OS choices. I just really like Windows 7. I have used Linux for years, and I really liked it, but I like games. Wine is a pain. XP worked just fine for me for several years. But comparing XP to 7? Windows 7 is a much better OS. That's my opinion. I don't even factor in Vista. I tried it, hated it. I do agree that Windows 7 is Vista "done right."

Really, whatever works for you is fine with me.

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Jove, Linux is pretty cool. I like it a lot, but it's just not as "easy" to use as Windows 7. You have to be willing to learn and tweak if you want to run Linux as your OS. I have no problem with that, but getting games to work is a pain.

Windows 7 Home OEM - $100
Any distro of Linux - Free Download
And you can dual-boot.

Ubuntu homepage | Ubuntu

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flat5

Win XP has trouble using more than 3gig ram. Win 7 does not.
If you are going to multi task demanding programs Win 7 may have an advantage
because you can install 8gig or more of ram.

I'll stay with XP for now. I have played with Win 7 Ultimate and don't need/like it.

Wyodiver33

flat5, the memory usage issue doesn't have that much to do with XP/Vista/7 as much as it has to do with 32 bit/64 bit. A 32 bit OS can only use around 3.5 GB of RAM. A 64 bit OS can use a Lot more.

64-bit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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flat5

Yes, thanks for reminding me.
In XP 32bit 4gigs of ram will confuse the OS and it will constantly crash.
Win 7 32bit will allow 8gig of ram to sit there so dual boot 32 & 64 will work better.
Is this true?

Cynthetiq

I have 4GB of RAM with my XP 32 box and it is very stable. I only get 3GB usable.

My win7 64 with 12GB is also very stable.

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flat5

In another thread I talked about my new computer.
The motherboard has two slots - dual channel.
I installed 2 2gig 800mhz modules.
XP installed but after loading the first program the OS kept crashing.
I removed the ram and installed 1 2gig 667mhz module. Everything stable.
I now have 2 1gig 800mhz modules.
I was told that XP does not like 4gig and that was my experience.

Did you play with the registry to get XP 32bit stable with 4gig?

Cynthetiq

I did not adjust my registry to get it to work.

I have dual slots for each channel, so I have 1GB x 4, I just inserted 2GB more and started up my PC. Maybe you needed to change the speed of the 2GB to 667 in your BIOS.

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flat5

I tried running the 4gig slower.

Cynthetiq

didn't work?

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flat5

Right. I tried it a few months ago.

Martian

There are a number of reasons that your system might not've liked the 4 GB -- most likely culprit in my mind is your motherboard not being compatible, which may or may not be fixable with a BIOS update.

One possibility is not that Windows XP won't run with 4 GB. Windows XP runs fine with 4 GB, even if it's not fully addressable.

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flat5

Perhaps. The max for the MB is 4gig.
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