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Baraka_Guru 03-31-2010 08:08 AM

It's coming....
 
Anyone getting one this weekend?

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iPad On Sale Saturday, 9:00 AM

Apple is reminding tech fans (as if they need it) that its tablet computer is available for purchase on April 3rd.

By Paul McDougall, InformationWeek
March 31, 2010
URL: iPad On Sale Saturday, 9:00 AM -- InformationWeek

Apple on Wednesday e-mailed customers to remind them that its highly-anticipated iPad tablet computer goes on sale Saturday, at precisely 9:00 am in all time zones across the country.

"The Apple Retail Store is the best place to experience iPad," Apple said in the e-mail.

"Have one of our Specialists show you all the amazing things it can do. If you buy one, we'll even help you get set up and running," Apple said.

Apple is promising free setup services for customers who purchase an iPad at one of its Apple Stores. The services includes e-mail configuration, application loading, "and more," Apple said Monday.

In addition to setup services, the stores will offer iPad "workshops" to help users learn more about the tablet-style computing device, which combines the functions of a notebook, e-reader, and portable video and music player.

"iPad connects users with their apps and content in a far more intimate and fun way than ever before," said Apple CEO Steve Jobs, in a statement. "We can't wait for users to get their hands and fingers on its this weekend," Jobs said.

iPads can also be purchased on Apple's Web site.

The iPad checks in at just .5 inches thick and weighs 1.5 pounds. Apple has said the unit's internal batteries should be good for up to ten hours without recharging.

Pricing for the Wi-Fi only version, which features 802.11 connectivity and is available April 3rd, starts at $499 for the 16GB model, $599 for the 32GB model, and $699 for the 64GB version.

The Wi-Fi + 3G versions, available later in April, are priced somewhat higher. The 16GB model is $629, the 32GB model is $729, and the 64GB version is $829.
And here's an interesting indicator of market adoption:
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And an iPad in Every Backpack
By DAVID CARR
Tony Avelar/Bloomberg News

Everyone is looking for an angle on much-hyped entrance of the iPad to the marketplace and Seton Hill University in Pennsylvania has grabbed a piece by announcing that every incoming freshman will be handed a tablet when they walk in the door for the 2011-2012 academic year. The campus is wired end-to-end and students also get new Macbook, which sounds like a bonanza, except the part about a $500 fee per semester for all the digital convenience. Nobody ever said the future would be cheap.

According to The Chronicle of Higher Education, the move should take a take a load off student’s shoulders:
“The iPad will lighten the backpacks of Seton Hill University students,” said JoAnne W. Boyle, president of Seton Hill University, in an e-mail message to The Chronicle.

When Apple announced the debut of the iPad in January, some major publishers began hoping the new technology could boost electronic-textbook sales. Seton Hill says the iPad will let students create work and share it with other students and faculty members. The iPad will also let students download books to the iPad from the iBookstore.
It’s not the first time higher educations institutions have used the allure of gadgetry to pull students in. This fall, George Hill University will offer students a choice of a Macbook or an iPad, while Duke University gave away iPods from 2004 to 2006. Regardless of the device, seems like Apple has gone beyond being something that sits on the teachers desk.
And an iPad in Every Backpack - Media Decoder Blog - NYTimes.com

ratbastid 03-31-2010 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by guccilvr (Post 2769378)
The A+ upgrade will be an iPhone on Verizon 3g. Apple's contract with AT&T is over in the summer and if they're smart they'll go over to Verizon and sell a fuck load of iPhones.

The chatter now includes a double-resolution screen, support for wireless-N, and a front-facing camera. Also it's expected to be based on the same Apple-designed chipset the iPad rocks. Word is that a CDMA-based iPhone might be coming later this summer, which would be available on Verizon and Sprint.

This is all rumor, of course--hard to know what's true and what's pure speculation, in the run-up to an Apple release.

ARTelevision 03-31-2010 10:18 AM

Mine shipped out from CN a couple of days ago...
Yep. Supposed to be here by Saturday.
We'll see.

Baraka_Guru 03-31-2010 10:23 AM

Wow, nice, ART.

I'd like to hear your initial impressions. Will you write us up a review?

cadre 04-01-2010 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ARTelevision (Post 2753407)
I'm assuming currently absent software features will be handled in future upgrades. That should includes things like Flash, multitasking, and new operating systems.

Flash will probably not be added to the iPad any time soon. Apple has issues with Adobe. That said, html5 is supposed to be the next big thing and the iPad does support that.


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Originally Posted by guccilvr (Post 2769378)
The A+ upgrade will be an iPhone on Verizon 3g. Apple's contract with AT&T is over in the summer and if they're smart they'll go over to Verizon and sell a fuck load of iPhones.

Even if they do go to Verizon, I won't be purchasing one. I sill like my blackberry better than the iPhone.

I hear T-mobile is definitely getting the iPhone. I've also heard Verizon is as well but I find that a little harder to believe seeing as it requires them to change hardware. It seems like the most likely scenario is that the iPhone will become unlocked so that you can use it on any carrier.

Now as far as the iPad is concerned: I can't wait! :)
I figure, if it can surf the web, watch movies, and view photos from my camera, I can definitely use it. I recently sold my Apple laptop because it was just too big and bulky. All I really did on it was surf the internet and take it on the occasional plane ride. I also just replaced my iPhone, (it was great although At&t was terrible) but the screen was just too small to sit on the couch and browse the internet. I've been an Apple person for a long time so I've learned that with Apple products it kind of goes like this: it may not do everything but what it does, it does very well.

I will be standing in line at my local Best Buy when they open. I figure I have a better shot there then at an Apple store and it's a little late now to preorder.

Oh and Gizmodo has a nice summary of some reviews here: First iPad Reviews Are In - Apple ipad review - Gizmodo

ARTelevision 04-01-2010 05:32 AM

Baraka_Guru...for whatever it's worth, sure, I'll type out a few impressions from my minimally relevant point of view.

ratbastid 04-01-2010 07:27 AM

I had a dream last night that I really really wanted an iPad.

Then I woke up and realized.... I DO really really want an iPad.

Baraka_Guru 04-02-2010 05:58 AM

Consumers aren't the only ones whipped up into a frenzy....
 
It appears that the run-up to the release of the iPad tomorrow has caused excitable consumers and media companies alike.

Media players set to climb atop iPad's platform - The Globe and Mail

Television, newspapers, and magazines are realigning their business models and distribution channels in response to the iPad. It isn't entirely new; they've been thinking about online content and content for mobile devices for years.

However, some critics and analysts are saying the iPad will be a game-changer, bringing the best of all worlds.

Some highlights from the article:
  • CBS and ABC have worked out deals to make their shows available for free on the iPad.
  • The New York Times is one of the first newspapers to have an app for daily publishing, plus an iPad-coded website.
  • Five of the biggest magazine publishers in the States are collaborating on a project called Next Issue Media to create a “digital storefront.”

ARTelevision 04-03-2010 06:57 AM

it's chindogu - got the whole wide web in my hands
 
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First feel of the iPad here in my hands.

Slippery...a whole new thing to get used to holding in my hand.

More later...

Cynthetiq 04-03-2010 06:59 AM

Nice. For some reason I have more scale with you standing with it. I think that's a mental image.

Baraka_Guru 04-03-2010 07:09 AM

Very nice. Let us know how TFP looks on it. :)

ARTelevision 04-03-2010 07:25 AM

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It is chindōgu, but I mean that in a good way!

ratbastid 04-03-2010 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ARTelevision (Post 2774506)
First feel of the iPad here in my hands.

Slippery...a whole new thing to get used to holding in my hand.

More later...

Don't drop it!

Rekna 04-03-2010 01:55 PM

Apparently this uses a non-standard USB port which only lets the iPad charge via the all adapter (sold by Apple) or a mac. It won't charge on your PC....

Once again apple is trying to lock their customers into their products. I don't think I will ever by an apple product, they have become incredibly evil and anti-competitive.

Baraka_Guru 04-03-2010 02:48 PM

According to Apple, it uses USB 2.0, and is compatible with Mac OS X and Windows. It would be kinda silly of them to not make this compatible with PCs, considering the size of the market.

Also, I don't understand the connection to being proprietary and being anti-competitive. It's not a new concept.

Willravel 04-03-2010 03:03 PM

Handles like a dream. Much faster than the iPod Touch/iPhone. Apps are highly responsive, and iBooks is outstanding (built-in dictionary ftw). Seems to work just as well as Safari on my Mac, actually. TFP looks great.

Posted from the iPad.

Rekna 04-03-2010 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru (Post 2774612)
According to Apple, it uses USB 2.0, and is compatible with Mac OS X and Windows. It would be kinda silly of them to not make this compatible with PCs, considering the size of the market.

Also, I don't understand the connection to being proprietary and being anti-competitive. It's not a new concept.

Being 2.0 complaint only means it can communicate over 2.0, it doesn't mean it will charge over it:

Apple iPad charging woes: USB hubs, non-Macs and weak ports not rejuvenating -- Engadget

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Some people on mac's are reporting theirs won't charge either, in particular if they are running windows on their mac...

Baraka_Guru 04-03-2010 04:53 PM

Ah, apparently it was designed to be charged using a wall plug. It comes with a 10W USB Power Adapter.

And the battery must be a beast compared to the iPod Classic, if you compare the stats (6 hours of video playback for the iPod vs. 10 hours for the iPad).

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Originally Posted by Willravel (Post 2774615)
Handles like a dream. Much faster than the iPod Touch/iPhone. Apps are highly responsive, and iBooks is outstanding (built-in dictionary ftw). Seems to work just as well as Safari on my Mac, actually. TFP looks great.

Posted from the iPad.

Nice. How do you find the keyed input?

Willravel 04-03-2010 04:56 PM

The keypad most certainly is a step up from the iPhone/iTouch. I didn't realize how much the size effected accuracy and speed. It's performance seems to be faster, too, but that could just be my happier fingers.

Xerxys 04-03-2010 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ratbastid (Post 2773948)
I had a dream last night that I really really wanted an iPad.

Then I woke up and realized.... I DO really really want an iPad.

You guys are killing me. I'm a technophile and I don't want one of this. I don't even own an apple product.

Cynthetiq 04-03-2010 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Xerxys (Post 2774651)
You guys are killing me. I'm a technophile and I don't want one of this. I don't even own an apple product.

I just put out to pasture a Lifesaver iMac and a Wallstreet Powerbook. There's still a Mac somewhere in the living room.

Xerxys 04-03-2010 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by cadre (Post 2773873)
Flash will probably not be added to the iPad any time soon. Apple has issues with Adobe. That said, html5 is supposed to be the next big thing and the iPad does support that.



Now as far as the iPad is concerned: I can't wait! :)
I figure, if it can surf the web, watch movies, and view photos from my camera, I can definitely use it. I recently sold my Apple laptop because it was just too big and bulky. All I really did on it was surf the internet and take it on the occasional plane ride. I also just replaced my iPhone, (it was great although At&t was terrible) but the screen was just too small to sit on the couch and browse the internet. I've been an Apple person for a long time so I've learned that with Apple products it kind of goes like this: it may not do everything but what it does, it does very well.

I will be standing in line at my local Best Buy when they open. I figure I have a better shot there then at an Apple store and it's a little late now to preorder.

Oh and Gizmodo has a nice summary of some reviews here: First iPad Reviews Are In - Apple ipad review - Gizmodo

HTML5 is not very good. A mild reproduction of flash and does an even worse job of compression. Flash works best due to it's ability to compress. That's the reason it's so fast.

And it's not at all hard or expensive to change the hardware in the phones.

Baraka_Guru 04-03-2010 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Xerxys (Post 2774654)
HTML5 is not very good. A mild reproduction of flash and does an even worse job of compression. Flash works best due to it's ability to compress. That's the reason it's so fast.

And it's not at all hard or expensive to change the hardware in the phones.

It's not that Apple doesn't want to change the hardware; they just don't want to use Flash.

And it looks like they won't need to.

Apple - iPad-ready websites

YaWhateva 04-03-2010 07:34 PM

I know somebody who bought one and I'm so glad I didn't buy into it. It's just a toy. It's absolutely not a netbook replacement. I'll be waiting for the HP Slate or the Microsoft Courier (which I hope is actually made, it looks ridiculously amazing).

Willravel 04-03-2010 07:57 PM

Anyone who called this a netbook replacement was a liar and a fiend. It's not a netbook, it's an ereader with more functionality. You have a desktop for serious computer things and then have an iPad for when you're out and about. Netbooks don't even make sense, they're just really cheap, shitty laptops.

YaWhateva 04-03-2010 08:07 PM

Well, Steve Jobs at the unveiling said, of netbooks, "They're not better at laptops than anything, they're just cheaper." That to me sounds like he's calling out the netbook market. If it was touted as a better ereader I wouldn't have had a problem, I would have still thought it was a poor replacement but at least that's a good comparison. an ereader with an LED screen? Oh man, my eyes.

Getting any sort of functionality out of the iPad's keyboard other than typing a very short email or a website address is not fun.

I agree that netbooks are a pretty dumb idea but lots of people bought into that idea and netbooks do a hell of a lot more than the iPad.

As I said, the HP Slate or the Courier seem to be much stronger products.

Baraka_Guru 04-03-2010 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by YaWhateva (Post 2774665)
As I said, the HP Slate or the Courier seem to be much stronger products.

Why is that? They look essentially the same.

Cynthetiq 04-03-2010 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru (Post 2774667)
Why is that? They look essentially the same.

because it's a full PC versus a giant iPhone.

YaWhateva 04-03-2010 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru (Post 2774667)
Why is that? They look essentially the same.

The Slate has a full operating system (Windows 7) which is a must to me, USB, webcam, ability to multitask, memory card reader, and is cheaper. No word on storage space though.

The Courier just looks amazing. I don't know much about the Courier but the video in this article makes me squeal with glee haha.

Switched On: Courier courts the creative -- Engadget

Baraka_Guru 04-04-2010 05:04 AM

Ah, I see now. Fair enough.

But if I wanted a full PC/operating system, I'd get a regular computer (i.e. a laptop or desktop).

ratbastid 04-04-2010 05:27 AM

You CALL yourself a technophile, you mean, Xerx.

I went and fondled one in the store yesterday. S'nice. The keyboard does okay, it would take some getting used to, but the iPhone keypad took some getting used to too, and I'm acceptably quick on that these days.

It's FAST. I'm used to some UI lag on my iPhone 3G. NONE on the iPad. Screen rotation is basically instant. That new processor is the deal, evidently.

What didn't I love? Well, it was warm. The demo units were pretty much in constant use from when the store opened to when I got there about 5pm, and it was a warm day, and both I and the guy at the demo bench next to me noticed the back of it got warm to the touch. Not uncomfortably so, but it sort of counters the illusion of this pristine slab of aluminum with a cool glass screen.

I also didn't quite know how to hold it--standing at the bench, I had to set it down for any two-handed operation (typing, for instance). I don't know how I'd do that if I were standing with it somewhere. But I guess its main use case is the lap on the couch, so maybe that's not such a thing.

ARTelevision 04-04-2010 05:51 AM

It is a new user experience. People will find new ways to use it and what it does...essentially bring the Net and intimate computing into one's hands and lap in a closer way. It will be heavily accessorized and it will evolve along with its accessories.

ratbastid 04-04-2010 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru (Post 2774708)
But if I wanted a full PC/operating system, I'd get a regular computer (i.e. a laptop or desktop).

Exactly. I already have one of those. But I could also use a small, elegant, easy to use device to put the internet in my lap. I imagine that Safari would be my most-used app on the iPad by a very long shot.

YaWhateva 04-04-2010 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ratbastid (Post 2774724)
Exactly. I already have one of those. But I could also use a small, elegant, easy to use device to put the internet in my lap. I imagine that Safari would be my most-used app on the iPad by a very long shot.

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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru (Post 2774708)
But if I wanted a full PC/operating system, I'd get a regular computer (i.e. a laptop or desktop).

I would rather have it all in one device. Isn't this the argument people made against smart phones? "Oh I already have a phone and an mp3 player and a laptop, why would I want this iPhone?" It's much nicer to have everything in one device than several little niche devices. This device doesn't even do typing well, like I said in my first post, it's a pain in the ass to type anything longer than a text message length email. Reviews say that if you want to do anything other than that with it, then you should probably buy the dock. Wow, not only is a niche device but its claims of being super portable for on the go use only holds true if you don't plan on using it as a productivity tool. I'll pass, thanks.

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Originally Posted by ratbastid (Post 2774713)
You CALL yourself a technophile, you mean, Xerx.

Someone can't be a technophile and not want a product from a company that is insistent on dumbing down technology to the level of reality TV shows? :rolleyes:

cadre 04-04-2010 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Xerxys (Post 2774654)
HTML5 is not very good. A mild reproduction of flash and does an even worse job of compression. Flash works best due to it's ability to compress. That's the reason it's so fast.

And it's not at all hard or expensive to change the hardware in the phones.

The fact that it's better doesn't matter. Apple doesn't like adobe.

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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru (Post 2774656)
It's not that Apple doesn't want to change the hardware; they just don't want to use Flash.

And it looks like they won't need to.

Apple - iPad-ready websites

Ding ding.

Okay, I went to best buy yesterday at 9 am and I had no problem getting a 64gb iPad, in fact they had plenty. No cases though, I'll have to go back for that.

So far I really like it. Of course it's not perfect and it doesn't do everything but it's great for browsing the web and playing games. I haven't gotten the camera connection kit but I intend to use that for photo shoots since this is after all property of my company.

My main complaint with the keyboard is that the apostrophe is not easily accessible. Other than that it's easy enough to type on except i'm use to resting my fingers on the keys. I already have a bluetooth keyboard that works well so I'm not concerned.

The html5, while not that best thing in the world, does work for streaming videos but it's easy to format movies for it that you download as well.

Oh and I've heard people complain that they don't know how to hold it but I haven't had that problem. I've been using my legs or pillows while sitting and resting it on my forearm while standing. You can do everything with one hand fairly easily, except of course typing. I hope that provides some insight for you guys. If you're a techie that has to be able to do everything at once this isn't for you but I think many people will love it.

(typed on an iPad)

Xerxys 04-04-2010 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cadre (Post 2774799)
The fact that it's better doesn't matter. Apple doesn't like adobe.

It irks me that you'd say that with such confidence and the problem is, that's completely true. Tech companies have more than often refused to abide by the law of the land which is UPGRADE UP!!!

cadre 04-04-2010 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Xerxys (Post 2774805)
It irks me that you'd say that with such confidence and the problem is, that's completely true. Tech companies have more than often refused to abide by the law of the land which is UPGRADE UP!!!

Yep. I'm not supporting Apple on this subject but I also have no intention of switching back to PCs. Unfortunately, it looks like Apple will not be changing it's position any time soon.

Baraka_Guru 04-04-2010 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by YaWhateva (Post 2774749)
I would rather have it all in one device. Isn't this the argument people made against smart phones? "Oh I already have a phone and an mp3 player and a laptop, why would I want this iPhone?" It's much nicer to have everything in one device than several little niche devices. This device doesn't even do typing well, like I said in my first post, it's a pain in the ass to type anything longer than a text message length email. Reviews say that if you want to do anything other than that with it, then you should probably buy the dock. Wow, not only is a niche device but its claims of being super portable for on the go use only holds true if you don't plan on using it as a productivity tool. I'll pass, thanks.

I don't consider anything less than a laptop as a productivity tool.

I view the iPad and tablet computers in general as consumption tools.

I have an iPad Touch; it's for music, podcasts, audiobooks, and the occasional app, such as weather, calendar, contacts, news headlines, etc.

I have a cell phone...for telephone calls.

The only thing I'd want an iPad for is music, video, browsing the net, several simple apps (generally for receiving information), and the occasional nonfiction book.

The last thing I'd want to use it (or a tablet computer) for is productivity. I'd rather use a real keyboard for work-related projects. Having to attach a keyboard and mouse to a tablet device, and especially having to set it up on some kind of dock or whatever, kinda defeats the purpose for me. It's like trying to turn a tablet device into a laptop. So I think I'll just stick with a laptop. I don't see myself doing what I do for a living on a virtual keyboard. I need a real keyboard and mouse. I need to sit for long periods of time, preferably at a desk with an upright screen of a reasonable size.

I used to dream of an all-in-one device. But I've come to the conclusion that it will be a long time before we see one that's extremely satisfactory. In the meantime, I'll take a few multifunctional devices.

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Originally Posted by Xerxys (Post 2774805)
It irks me that you'd say that with such confidence and the problem is, that's completely true. Tech companies have more than often refused to abide by the law of the land which is UPGRADE UP!!!

It's not about "upgrading" or "keeping up with the times." If you want to know what specifically Apple doesn't like about Adobe Flash, consider this, which is what Jobs said about it recently at one of Apple's "Town Hall Meetings":
They are lazy. They have all this potential to do interesting things but they just refuse to do it. They don’t do anything with the approaches that Apple is taking, like Carbon. Apple does not support Flash because it is so buggy. Whenever a Mac crashes more often than not it’s because of Flash. No one will be using Flash, the world is moving to HTML5.
Steve Jobs Unleashes His Fury During Town Hall Meeting
Also consider that security is another issue:
Adobe - Security bulletins and advisories
Expert says Adobe Flash policy is risky
Adobe Could Be Your Security Weakest Link - PCWorld Business Center

Frosstbyte 04-04-2010 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru (Post 2774829)
It's not about "upgrading" or "keeping up with the times." If you want to know what specifically Apple doesn't like about Adobe Flash, consider this, which is what Jobs said about it recently at one of Apple's "Town Hall Meetings":
They are lazy. They have all this potential to do interesting things but they just refuse to do it. They don’t do anything with the approaches that Apple is taking, like Carbon. Apple does not support Flash because it is so buggy. Whenever a Mac crashes more often than not it’s because of Flash. No one will be using Flash, the world is moving to HTML5.
Steve Jobs Unleashes His Fury During Town Hall Meeting
Also consider that security is another issue:
Adobe - Security bulletins and advisories
Expert says Adobe Flash policy is risky
Adobe Could Be Your Security Weakest Link - PCWorld Business Center

The problem is that these are all strawmans. Flash crashes so much and is such a security hole because it is so ubiquitous. There are millions of programmers around the world using or trying to use the language and some of them are simply better at doing it than others. Flash is enough more complicated that people are going to screw up and cause errors and crashes. If html5 achieves the same degree of success as flash, we're going to run into the same problem all over again.

Apple's making a mistake, and they're hiding behind bad reasons for that mistake with justifications that don't make any sense in the big picture. Alas, it's a waste of breath. They've made their choice. I just hope the market innovates a solution, either by forcing apple to recant or by forcing the rest of the world to adopt an equivalent or better standard.

YaWhateva 04-05-2010 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru (Post 2774829)
The last thing I'd want to use it (or a tablet computer) for is productivity. I'd rather use a real keyboard for work-related projects. Having to attach a keyboard and mouse to a tablet device, and especially having to set it up on some kind of dock or whatever, kinda defeats the purpose for me. It's like trying to turn a tablet device into a laptop. So I think I'll just stick with a laptop. I don't see myself doing what I do for a living on a virtual keyboard. I need a real keyboard and mouse. I need to sit for long periods of time, preferably at a desk with an upright screen of a reasonable size.

I used to dream of an all-in-one device. But I've come to the conclusion that it will be a long time before we see one that's extremely satisfactory. In the meantime, I'll take a few multifunctional devices.

I agree it will be hard to get an all in one device that is satisfactory but I can dream can't I? haha. The Courier is biggest hope.

ratbastid 04-05-2010 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru (Post 2774829)
I view the iPad and tablet computers in general as consumption tools.

Definitely. And I know personally, consumption is probably 80% of my usage profile. Including the kind of consumption that includes typing "Definitely. And consumption is...". I could very easily see myself contributing bits of text like this on an iPad keyboard. I'm not going to type a dissertation on it, most likely, but it's sort of ideal for the kind of consumption I mostly do.

cadre 04-05-2010 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ratbastid (Post 2774858)
Definitely. And I know personally, consumption is probably 80% of my usage profile. Including the kind of consumption that includes typing "Definitely. And consumption is...". I could very easily see myself contributing bits of text like this on an iPad keyboard. I'm not going to type a dissertation on it, most likely, but it's sort of ideal for the kind of consumption I mostly do.

This is the case for me as well. I have a 24" Imac that I can use for producing things. The ipad is just something a little easier for the consumption side of things. This morning for instance I sat down at my iMac and worked on my company's finance database and the emailed logo files off to my designer after adding notes via Illustrator. There's no way I would attempt to use an ipad for those things. But now I am browsing the Internet and sitting on the couch so I pulled the ipad out.

By the way for those people out there thinking about getting an iPad or who have already gotten on but not a case: I really do not like the Apple case. The seam on the edges is annoying and it gets dirty and scratched really easily . The concept is good though, I'm hoping someone puts out a better version soon.

Willravel 04-05-2010 06:49 PM

When does the fully fledged New York Times app come out? The Editor's Choice thing is tiny, though well put together.

BTW, you must download Netflix for iPad right now. It's out of this world.

Xerxys 04-07-2010 08:24 AM

OK so, yesterday I was at the mall and accidentally, yeah, it was totally by chance, I found myself in an apple store and I decided to fondle one of these. What can I say, it was great. The display was incredible. It's definition was exceptional. The response was not lagging. I am, however, afraid of what happens after it gets old. I had an iPod a while back that I got rid of because it's UI became slow.

I see this in my somewhat near future.

ARTelevision 04-08-2010 12:52 PM

The iPad case arrived today. It changes the device because the device itself is adaptable. New additions to it alter it.

The case changes how it feels in the hand and how it is intimately held and used. All that is very significant. This will happen a great deal. Accessories will evolve. There will be preferred accessories that extend the tablet's usefulness in ways that are commonly accepted and appreciated.

I'll use it with this case for a few days and see how it goes...

boink 04-09-2010 05:20 PM

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the applications which are generally turned down feature pornography or are extremely controversial. Which apps do you want that you can't get at the App Store?
I'd rather decide for myself, and I don't like the vibe that this thing is a front door to an Apple store, a device built just to sell me stuff. I mean I have my OWN MP3 collection and I don't want the coupon for Rhapsody that came with my Sansa player and I don't want software that just leads me to a store. I'd rather surf for what I want on my own.

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Currently, I drag my macbook into the kitchen when cooking, I drag my macbook to the couch to read the news and read TFP. It follows me around everywhere. I would take it more places if it was an iPad.
you characterise taking your laptop everywhere as a chore, dragging it here and there, how long would it be til you drag the pad here and there dragging that damn pad to the kitchen again !
why would it be such a joy to drag this thing everywhere instead of a slightly larger device ? sounds to me like a kid making excused to buy a new toy and not any real reason to own it. if you don't want to be burdened by trendy electronics never needed by anyone in human history, well just let them all go.

no offence, just sayin ya know.

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Apple has issues with Adobe.
not that I know anything but I thought Apple and Adobe were like two peas in a pod, after all Adobe is all about art creation and everybody knows Macs are the panacea of creativity and intuitive art creation (not imho)
whut up wit dat ? whut up wit dat !? oooooweee ! whut up wit dat ? whut up wit dat ?!

docbungle 04-09-2010 06:35 PM

What's the big deal? The iPad is a underperforming microcosm of a tablet computer. Big deal. Mac fans will love it. Hardcore pc users will not. 'nuff said.

The iPad will never be able to do anything more than Apple wants it to. Which is why I don't own one. But it is also why my roommate does own one. To each his own. There will always be a new gadget for the rest of us to blow our money on that we don't really need.

Xerxys 04-15-2010 10:39 AM

for HTML5 sympathizers, go here just to see how cumbersome implementing new software conventions is.

Cynthetiq 04-22-2010 01:34 PM

Writing this from the SoHo Apple store on an iPad. I find it a bit heavy in the hand after a few minutes and typing this isn't Horrible but I'm hunting and pecking instead of touch typing.

It is a sexy piece of hardware but find the net book a bit. More comfortable in comparison...

Sent from an iPad

Shauk 04-22-2010 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by docbungle (Post 2776245)
The iPad will never be able to do anything more than Apple wants it to. Which is why I don't own one.

Same.

I don't like the fact that they can charge almost 1000$ for a fully loaded iPad (maybe even more with tax & accessories/basic apps) then tell you what you can and can't do with it, despite it being technologically capable.


Everytime Jobs comes out with a new product I want to build another PC for my home in defiance, right now I think I'll be happy with an android phone instead.

Charlatan 04-26-2010 11:30 PM

My boss brought an iPad back from New York. I've had a chance to briefly play with it. I like the size and weight of the device but it's the interface that changes everything. I really want one now but would be willing to wait until the android powered units hit the market.

Cynthetiq 04-29-2010 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by YaWhateva (Post 2774841)
I agree it will be hard to get an all in one device that is satisfactory but I can dream can't I? haha. The Courier is biggest hope.

Well, you can stop hoping that Courier will cure what ails....


Microsoft Cancels Courier Tablet


http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/ga..._o-660x495.jpg
Microsoft’s dual screen prototype Courier tablet project is dead, even before it could make it out of the company’s research labs.
Microsoft has reportedly canceled internal work on the tablet, says Gizmodo. Gizmodo had initially revealed the Courier as a project that Microsoft has been working on. The tablet was said to have two screen, fold like a book and include a touchscreen display and a stylus. But the Courier never made it outside the pages of the blog.
Microsoft did not ever publicly announce the device or show it at conferences.
PC makers have offered slates and convertible notebooks for nearly a decade, and they’ve never caught on. But now, a new generation of attractively designed and low-priced screens are looking to lure in consumers. Apple’s iPad is leading this category and Apple has sold more than 500,000 iPads. Meanwhile, other companies such as Dell and HP are working on introducing tablets.
Microsoft’s Courier was never seen as a viable competitor largely because the device never truly went beyond the vaporware stage. Microsoft did not specifically comment about Courier’s future but Frank Shaw, corporate vice president of communications at Microsoft says Courier will have a legacy.
“It’s in Microsoft’s DNA to continually develop and incubate new technologies to foster productivity and creativity,” he said in an e-mailed statement. “The Courier project is an example of this type of effort and its technologies will be evaluated for use in future Microsoft offerings.”


Read More Microsoft Cancels Courier Tablet | Gadget Lab | Wired.com

cadre 05-07-2010 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Shauk (Post 2780287)
...Everytime Jobs comes out with a new product I want to build another PC for my home in defiance, right now I think I'll be happy with an android phone instead.

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Originally Posted by Charlatan (Post 2781528)
My boss brought an iPad back from New York. I've had a chance to briefly play with it. I like the size and weight of the device but it's the interface that changes everything. I really want one now but would be willing to wait until the android powered units hit the market.

For what it's worth, I've used both Android phones and Iphones and I have to say that I much prefer iphones. As nice as it is to be freed from all of Apple's restrictions, the Androids just don't run with the same ease and speed. I'm not as impressed with the Android OS as I thought I would be.

Oh and last I heard the Courier is not going to be an option in the future. http://gizmodo.com/5527442/microsoft...tablet-project

Baraka_Guru 05-07-2010 03:51 AM

Well, it's interesting.

Apple has sold 1 million iPads already, and all within the first month. That's in half the time it took to sell 1 million iPhones. All I can say is, "Wow."

One analyst is predicting that Apple will rake in $1 billion in iPad sales by June. In case you haven't realized yet, that's just around the corner.

Rekna 05-07-2010 06:55 AM

The Courier has been canceled :(

ratbastid 05-08-2010 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru (Post 2785046)
One analyst is predicting that Apple will rake in $1 billion in iPad sales by June. In case you haven't realized yet, that's just around the corner.

AND by then there will be a new iPhone.

I'm holding off on the iPad for the time being, but I'm re-upping on the iPhone (from my poor old 3G with the cracked screen) pretty much the minute the refresh is out.

Aaaaand, since i just started a new job, in a few months my financial situation might render it just too tempting to quit holding off on the iPad....

YaWhateva 05-08-2010 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rekna (Post 2785078)
The Courier has been canceled :(

Which is so sad. It made the iPad look like the ridiculous toy that it is. :(

If people figure out how to have windows 7 installed on the iPad without it being tethered then it might be worth buying. but until then, meh.

Rekna 05-08-2010 08:13 PM

The only reason I'd currently want a tablet is for a digital journal to take notes on. I'm working on my PhD in computer science and am thus always doing research on pads of paper. A digital journal would be awesome for consolidating and logging my thoughts. However, in order for a digital journal to be useful it has to allow pen input with a fine point. I'm not going to take notes and draw pictures with my finger...

YaWhateva 05-09-2010 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rekna (Post 2785693)
The only reason I'd currently want a tablet is for a digital journal to take notes on. I'm working on my PhD in computer science and am thus always doing research on pads of paper. A digital journal would be awesome for consolidating and logging my thoughts. However, in order for a digital journal to be useful it has to allow pen input with a fine point. I'm not going to take notes and draw pictures with my finger...

Exactly. I'm working on my PhD in Organic Chemistry and would love to have something like the Courier to keep my thoughts and research organized. The iPad just doesn't even come close to cutting it in that aspect.


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