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Seeker5509 · 07-16-2009, 02:54 PM

I tried out the new Bing search engine today - quite impressive.

What do you think? Will it challenge Google?

Shauk · 07-16-2009, 03:16 PM

I don't really ever need to "search" anything extensively enough to utilize the full capacity of a search engine. Most of my browsing habits are pretty set in bookmarks.

I do like the video preview feature tho.

Cynthetiq · 07-16-2009, 03:27 PM

I've gotten very good at googling. binging, not so much.

Psycho Dad · 07-16-2009, 03:35 PM

I didn't see where it gives me anything that google doesn't. I guess we'll see in a few months if people start saying they need to bing something instead of google something.

Martian · 07-16-2009, 03:43 PM

I get the idea from their ad campaign that Microsoft is trying to position Bing as some sort of contextual search. I really don't see it, though, and challenging Google in the search business is a tall order. Something like Wolfram Alpha might be able to carve out a niche, but you really need some sort of killer feature to make a dent in Google's market share.

The fact that Google is now a verb says it all. You don't Windows anything, but you can Google whatever you damn well please, and usually find something useful.

My cursory pokes and prods don't reveal anything more than a pound-for-pound clone of Google, right down to the apps. Maybe there's something under the surface, but I don't see any compelling reason to change my homepage just yet.

SecretMethod70 · 07-16-2009, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Martian

I get the idea from their ad campaign that Microsoft is trying to position Bing as some sort of contextual search. I really don't see it, though, and challenging Google in the search business is a tall order. Something like Wolfram Alpha might be able to carve out a niche, but you really need some sort of killer feature to make a dent in Google's market share.

The fact that Google is now a verb says it all. You don't Windows anything, but you can Google whatever you damn well please, and usually find something useful.

My cursory pokes and prods don't reveal anything more than a pound-for-pound clone of Google, right down to the apps. Maybe there's something under the surface, but I don't see any compelling reason to change my homepage just yet.

What he said.

There are a couple minor features that Bing has which Google doesn't, but nothing particularly important. And I still like the clean interface on Google.

Seeker5509 · 07-17-2009, 02:32 AM

Yeah - I tend agree with all of your comments... all seems pretty swish, but the bottom line is that it does not offer any "radically" new.

...and saying "I'll google it" sounds a lot cooler that "I'll bing it"....

Baraka_Guru · 07-17-2009, 02:47 AM

And remember, Google isn't just a search engine.

I see Bing isn't either, but when you look at the sum of their parts....

Glory's Sun · 07-17-2009, 04:32 AM

I'm goin back to yahoo!

just to buck the trend and be all anti-something and pretend it's some sort of revolution.

biznatch · 07-18-2009, 10:48 AM

I do have to say I like their ad campaign a lot. Very clever, and it's damn remarkable that I find an ad campaign that I like by Microsoft. I think it's the first time.
Nevertheless, for me, web browsing is a thing of habit. It'd be hard for me to try out a new search engine, especially when google already finds virtually everything I'm looking for.
This reminds of Cuil, a rival search engine that was launched by one of Google's former employees, I believe. I checked it out once, and went straight back to Google.
Web habits are hard to break, and google was extremely efficient in making its search engine almost indispensable for everyone's browsing.

Martian · 07-18-2009, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru

And remember, Google isn't just a search engine.

I see Bing isn't either, but when you look at the sum of their parts....

There's a whole discussion related to the services Google offers and how they tie into the search engine. The business model is really quite cleverly structured, which is a big part of Google's success.

Cynthetiq posted an audio book elsewhere which had an entire chapter devoted to this subject. I'm hesitant to derail the discussion here, but will strongly recommend you seek this book out if you're interested in the subject. In fact, Baraka_Guru I can pretty much guarantee you'll like this one based on our past interactions.

SofaKingA · 07-20-2009, 02:13 PM

Actually, after reading the original post, I tried Bing out and it's pretty legit. It actually brought up more better quality sites than Google. I searched for "Blackberry Storm 2." I also like how you can preview movies by just having your mouse over it. Not saying it's a better search engine just what I initially found...

I think its respectable that MS is finally sticking it to Google. With Chrome OS and Android coming out and attacking MS at its roots it's good MS is doing the exact same to Google.

telekinetic · 07-20-2009, 05:48 PM

I was pretty amused at Collegehumor's take on bing vs google!

Googling with Bing - CollegeHumor video

Punk.of.Ages · 07-20-2009, 05:58 PM

I see no reason to go to anything other than Google. It does everything I need a search engine to do.
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Bing seems kind of slow and laggy...

InfiniteWisdom · 07-30-2009, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guccilvr

I'm goin back to yahoo!

just to buck the trend and be all anti-something and pretend it's some sort of revolution.

I know you were joking but ... now that microsoft is working with yahoo the buckers of trends will have to find yet another search engine to use

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Glory's Sun · 07-30-2009, 08:17 AM

yeah.. fuck yahoo now.

bring back excite!

SecretMethod70 · 07-30-2009, 09:17 AM

Screw excite, HotBot is where it's at!

kutulu · 07-30-2009, 11:03 AM

Alta Vista ftw

Xerxys · 07-30-2009, 11:10 AM

Askdotcom, what the hell is wrong with all of you?

telekinetic · 07-30-2009, 11:14 AM

It's all about Dogpile...how else are you going to be able to search....

Quote:

Yahoo!, Lycos' A2Z, World Wide Web Worm, Yahoo's new search, What U Seek, Lycos, WebCrawler, InfoSeek, OpenText, AltaVista, Excite & HotBot.

...all in one easy click?

SecretMethod70 · 07-30-2009, 11:33 AM

I kinda liked dogpile back in the day, but I always ended up using HotBot results anyway...

I'm telling you, HotBot was the shit before Google came along!

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Xerxys

Askdotcom, what the hell is wrong with all of you?

Ask.com is still around, and actually doing some pretty interesting things. It couldn't pry me away from Google, but it was fun to tinker with.

Speed_Gibson · 08-10-2009, 08:16 PM

"Bing" is always going to mean one of the greatest singers of the 20th century to me, not any kind of search engine. Typing "g search_item_here" in the Opera address bar works beautifully for me.

Halx · 08-11-2009, 07:42 AM

From the industry perspective: Wake me up when they create a search engine that doesn't require "search engine optimization" in order to properly rank and index results.

steveincolumbus · 08-11-2009, 04:32 PM

Bing is one of the best, but still not impressive.

Sue · 08-11-2009, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speed_Gibson

"Bing" is always going to mean one of the greatest singers of the 20th century to me, not any kind of search engine.

Agree!!!

cj2112 · 08-11-2009, 08:57 PM

bing is going to have a hard time getting me away from google

wolf · 08-12-2009, 09:27 AM

Google has such a hold on the market of search engines that it's very name has become a verb for looking something up on the net. I have to agree it is a lot cooler to say "I'll google it" rather than "I'll bing it" and most people won't know what the heck you're talking about with bing. However, after having used both, I'm impressed by Microsoft's efforts. The previewing of sites and videos is a cool feature. I don't know that it will surpass Google as a primary search engine of mine, but it's certainly better than msn or windows live. Microsoft was seen as such an evil entity in the technology field with their make it or take it philosophy. With Google seeming to adopt the same philosophy it will be interesting to see how people start to view the once friendly company turned corporate giant.

07-16-2009, 02:54 PM	#1 (permalink)
Seeker5509 Upright Location: Cape Town, South Africa	Bing? I tried out the new Bing search engine today - quite impressive. What do you think? Will it challenge Google? __________________ Full speed ahead and damn the torpedoes - Adm David Farragut

07-16-2009, 03:27 PM	#3 (permalink)
Cynthetiq Tilted Cat Head Administrator Location: Manhattan, NY	I've gotten very good at googling. binging, not so much. __________________ I don't care if you are black, white, purple, green, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, hippie, cop, bum, admin, user, English, Irish, French, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, indian, cowboy, tall, short, fat, skinny, emo, punk, mod, rocker, straight, gay, lesbian, jock, nerd, geek, Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Independent, driver, pedestrian, or bicyclist, either you're an asshole or you're not. What's the best nation in the world? DO-NATION!

07-16-2009, 03:35 PM	#4 (permalink)
Psycho Dad Mulletproof Location: Some nucking fut house.	I didn't see where it gives me anything that google doesn't. I guess we'll see in a few months if people start saying they need to bing something instead of google something. __________________ Don't always trust the opinions of experts.

07-16-2009, 03:43 PM	#5 (permalink)
Martian Young Crumudgeon Location: Canada	I get the idea from their ad campaign that Microsoft is trying to position Bing as some sort of contextual search. I really don't see it, though, and challenging Google in the search business is a tall order. Something like Wolfram Alpha might be able to carve out a niche, but you really need some sort of killer feature to make a dent in Google's market share. The fact that Google is now a verb says it all. You don't Windows anything, but you can Google whatever you damn well please, and usually find something useful. My cursory pokes and prods don't reveal anything more than a pound-for-pound clone of Google, right down to the apps. Maybe there's something under the surface, but I don't see any compelling reason to change my homepage just yet. __________________ I wake up in the morning more tired than before I slept I get through cryin' and I'm sadder than before I wept I get through thinkin' now, and the thoughts have left my head I get through speakin' and I can't remember, not a word that I said - Ben Harper, Show Me A Little Shame

07-17-2009, 02:32 AM	#7 (permalink)
Seeker5509 Upright Location: Cape Town, South Africa	Yeah - I tend agree with all of your comments... all seems pretty swish, but the bottom line is that it does not offer any "radically" new. ...and saying "I'll google it" sounds a lot cooler that "I'll bing it".... __________________ Full speed ahead and damn the torpedoes - Adm David Farragut

07-16-2009, 03:16 PM	#2 (permalink)
Shauk Confused Adult Location: Spokane, WA	I don't really ever need to "search" anything extensively enough to utilize the full capacity of a search engine. Most of my browsing habits are pretty set in bookmarks. I do like the video preview feature tho.

07-17-2009, 02:47 AM	#8 (permalink)
Baraka_Guru warrior bodhisattva Super Moderator Location: East-central Canada	And remember, Google isn't just a search engine. I see Bing isn't either, but when you look at the sum of their parts.... __________________ Knowing that death is certain and that the time of death is uncertain, what's the most important thing? —Bhikkhuni Pema Chödrön Humankind cannot bear very much reality. —From "Burnt Norton," Four Quartets (1936), T. S. Eliot

07-17-2009, 04:32 AM	#9 (permalink)
Glory's Sun Registered User	I'm goin back to yahoo! just to buck the trend and be all anti-something and pretend it's some sort of revolution.

07-18-2009, 10:48 AM	#10 (permalink)
biznatch Junkie Location: France	I do have to say I like their ad campaign a lot. Very clever, and it's damn remarkable that I find an ad campaign that I like by Microsoft. I think it's the first time. Nevertheless, for me, web browsing is a thing of habit. It'd be hard for me to try out a new search engine, especially when google already finds virtually everything I'm looking for. This reminds of Cuil, a rival search engine that was launched by one of Google's former employees, I believe. I checked it out once, and went straight back to Google. Web habits are hard to break, and google was extremely efficient in making its search engine almost indispensable for everyone's browsing. __________________ Check it out: The Open Source/Freeware/Gratis Software Thread

07-20-2009, 02:13 PM	#12 (permalink)
SofaKingA Crazy Location: Erie, PA	Actually, after reading the original post, I tried Bing out and it's pretty legit. It actually brought up more better quality sites than Google. I searched for "Blackberry Storm 2." I also like how you can preview movies by just having your mouse over it. Not saying it's a better search engine just what I initially found... I think its respectable that MS is finally sticking it to Google. With Chrome OS and Android coming out and attacking MS at its roots it's good MS is doing the exact same to Google.

07-20-2009, 05:58 PM	#14 (permalink)
Punk.of.Ages Forming Location: ....a state of pure inebriation.	I see no reason to go to anything other than Google. It does everything I need a search engine to do. __________________ Bing seems kind of slow and laggy... __________________ "The fact is that censorship always defeats its own purpose, for it creates, in the end, the kind of society that is incapable of exercising real discretion..." - Henry Steel Commager "Punk rock music is great music played by really bad, drunk musicians." -Fat Mike

07-30-2009, 08:17 AM	#16 (permalink)
Glory's Sun Registered User	yeah.. fuck yahoo now. bring back excite!

07-30-2009, 09:17 AM	#17 (permalink)
SecretMethod70 Human Administrator Location: Chicago	Screw excite, HotBot is where it's at! __________________ Le temps détruit tout "Musicians are the carriers and communicators of spirit in the most immediate sense." - Kurt Elling

07-30-2009, 11:03 AM	#18 (permalink)
kutulu Junkie	Alta Vista ftw

07-30-2009, 11:10 AM	#19 (permalink)
Xerxys Junkie Location: My head.	Askdotcom, what the hell is wrong with all of you?

08-10-2009, 08:16 PM	#22 (permalink)
Speed_Gibson Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men? Location: right here of course	"Bing" is always going to mean one of the greatest singers of the 20th century to me, not any kind of search engine. Typing "g search_item_here" in the Opera address bar works beautifully for me. __________________ Started talking to yourself I see. Yes, it's the only way I can be certain of an intelligent conversation. Black Adder

08-11-2009, 07:42 AM	#23 (permalink)
Halx Please touch this. Owner/Admin Location: Manhattan	From the industry perspective: Wake me up when they create a search engine that doesn't require "search engine optimization" in order to properly rank and index results. __________________ You have found this post informative. -The Administrator [Don't Feed The Animals]

08-11-2009, 04:32 PM	#24 (permalink)
steveincolumbus Psycho Location: BFE, Kentucky	Bing is one of the best, but still not impressive.

08-11-2009, 08:57 PM	#26 (permalink)
cj2112 Unbelievable Location: Grants Pass OR	bing is going to have a hard time getting me away from google

08-12-2009, 09:27 AM	#27 (permalink)
wolf Ravenous Location: Right Behind You	Google has such a hold on the market of search engines that it's very name has become a verb for looking something up on the net. I have to agree it is a lot cooler to say "I'll google it" rather than "I'll bing it" and most people won't know what the heck you're talking about with bing. However, after having used both, I'm impressed by Microsoft's efforts. The previewing of sites and videos is a cool feature. I don't know that it will surpass Google as a primary search engine of mine, but it's certainly better than msn or windows live. Microsoft was seen as such an evil entity in the technology field with their make it or take it philosophy. With Google seeming to adopt the same philosophy it will be interesting to see how people start to view the once friendly company turned corporate giant. __________________ Thousands of years ago, cats were worshipped as Gods. Cats have never forgotten this.