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pacaveli · 08-09-2006, 03:59 PM

My brother wants an Ipod for under 200 bucks but the catch is now they stopped selling the 20 GB ipods which is all he really wants/needs. We found one on the Apple Website but it's refurbished. So the real question is What does refurbished entail. WIll it be sctracted, cause he can deal with that, he doesn't want a broken screen or a product that will die after a couple of months.

Psycho Dad · 08-09-2006, 04:09 PM

I have a refurbished printer on my desk that I've been using for five years with no problems. I had an HP Jornada that was a refurb and I used the hell out of it. When I got it from HP it was packaged just like the new one I bought for my wife and worked every bit as well.

I suspect most refurbs are returns from people who just didn't like their purchase or couldn't figure out how to use them in the first place.

ratbastid · 08-09-2006, 04:33 PM

I'm a big fan of refurb equipment.

Okay, maybe it was broken once, but it had an actual technician's actual hands on it. A real live person ensured that the device worked, which is more than you can say for a factory unit that rolled off the line and straight into a box.

I've had lots of refurb devices in my day, and they've all worked great. IMO, refurbs are the best kept secret in the electronics industry.

goddfather40 · 08-09-2006, 09:57 PM

I pretty much concur with the other opinions'. There are some items I will not buy refurbished, like hard drives or RAM. Those items are just too critical.

Redlemon · 08-10-2006, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by The Apple Store (U.S.)

Apple Certified Refurbished Products are pre-owned Apple products that undergo Apple's stringent refurbishment process prior to being offered for sale. These products have been returned under Apple's Return and Refund Policies. While only some units are returned due to technical issues, all units undergo Apple's stringent quality refurbishment process.

Each Apple Certified Refurbished Product:

* is fully tested (including full burn-in testing).
* is refurbished with replacement parts for any defective modules identified in testing.
* is put through a thorough cleaning process and inspection.
* is repackaged (including appropriate manuals, cables, new boxes, etc.).
* includes the operating software originally shipped with the unit and the custom software offered with that system. See each products "Learn More" for more details.
* is given a new refurbished part number and serial number.
* is placed into a Final QA inspection prior to being added to sellable refurbished stock.

There ya go........

pacaveli · 08-10-2006, 05:32 PM

thanks for the advice, i would of never known that refurbs are even worth looking at

ratbastid · 08-11-2006, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by goddfather40

I pretty much concur with the other opinions'. There are some items I will not buy refurbished, like hard drives or RAM. Those items are just too critical.

Oh, absolutely. I've never seen refurbed HDs or RAM for sale.. I think I'd be a little shocked to see somebody refurbing and reselling those. Once a HD or stick of RAM goes bad, it's bad, and its proper home is the dumpster.

I'm actually sort of in this same quandary. lurkette's birthday is coming up and she's in serious need of an iPoddish device (she's using my ancient 20GB Archos Jukebox, whose HD is failing). On one hand, I sort of hate to get her an actual iPod when there are other devices out there with richer feature sets and that aren't the freaking Big Mac of the DAP world. On the other hand... there's a reason everybody eats Big Macs. And the availability of refurb iPods takes the price issue out of the equasion. The other thing is, she'll be way happier using iTunes than Windows Media to manage data on the thing. I can't find any current models that mount as a USB Mass Storage Device anymore. I guess DRM has won...

Redlemon · 08-11-2006, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ratbastid

I can't find any current {iPod} models that mount as a USB Mass Storage Device anymore. I guess DRM has won...

What are you trying to do with the USB MSD connection? Store random data files, or transfer songs? There are solutions for either question.

Bolla · 08-15-2006, 01:58 AM

It's a better deal if it comes with a warranty cause you never know whats gonna happen. I bought my refurbed iriver from ebay and it came with a 3 month warranty. It was fully functional and had no deflects or blemishes but I had to reset it a couple times cause it froze (I was pressing the buttons too fast).

aphex140 · 08-15-2006, 02:37 AM

SOny nwa 3000 20 GIG hard drive and its not a ipod

ratbastid · 08-15-2006, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Redlemon

What are you trying to do with the USB MSD connection? Store random data files, or transfer songs? There are solutions for either question.

I just don't like having to use iTunes as a syncing mechanism. She's been using a device that mounts like a hard drive and gets its content copied to it in Explorer--and then navigates on-device by way of its directory structure. Syncing with iTunes or WMP and then using the tag-based navigation on-device is a completely different way to think of it.

snowy · 08-15-2006, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Bolla

It's a better deal if it comes with a warranty cause you never know whats gonna happen. I bought my refurbed iriver from ebay and it came with a 3 month warranty. It was fully functional and had no deflects or blemishes but I had to reset it a couple times cause it froze (I was pressing the buttons too fast).

All refurbished iPods come with 90 days of free tech support and a 1-year limited warranty.

Bolla · 08-15-2006, 05:47 PM

then I guess you should buy it. Don't ipods have limited recharges anyways? Good luck!

monkeysugar · 08-15-2006, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bolla

then I guess you should buy it. Don't ipods have limited recharges anyways? Good luck!

Yes, but so does anything else that uses a rechargeable battery. They all die eventually. Ipod batteries are easy to come by, and should be fairly easy to replace.

Jex · 08-20-2006, 04:13 AM

My guess is that it has had a new battery fitted. The batteries have a life span and they are not replaceable (by the everyday battery user). When the battery goes flat they give a $40 refund on a new Ipod. My guess is that it is somoene elses flat battery.

monkeysugar · 08-20-2006, 07:56 PM

http://www.apple.com/support/ipod/service/battery/ one venue, of a very long list of google results.

08-09-2006, 03:59 PM	#1 (permalink)
pacaveli Psycho Location: MD	MP3 PLayers My brother wants an Ipod for under 200 bucks but the catch is now they stopped selling the 20 GB ipods which is all he really wants/needs. We found one on the Apple Website but it's refurbished. So the real question is What does refurbished entail. WIll it be sctracted, cause he can deal with that, he doesn't want a broken screen or a product that will die after a couple of months. __________________ Check my blog out. Basically me talking about video games http://gginsights.blogspot.com/

08-09-2006, 04:09 PM	#2 (permalink)
Psycho Dad Mulletproof Location: Some nucking fut house.	I have a refurbished printer on my desk that I've been using for five years with no problems. I had an HP Jornada that was a refurb and I used the hell out of it. When I got it from HP it was packaged just like the new one I bought for my wife and worked every bit as well. I suspect most refurbs are returns from people who just didn't like their purchase or couldn't figure out how to use them in the first place. __________________ Don't always trust the opinions of experts.

08-09-2006, 09:57 PM	#4 (permalink)
goddfather40 Llama Location: Cali-for-nye-a	I pretty much concur with the other opinions'. There are some items I will not buy refurbished, like hard drives or RAM. Those items are just too critical. __________________ My name is goddfather40 and I approved this message. I got ho's and I got bitches, In C++ I branch with switches -MC Plus+

08-10-2006, 05:32 PM	#6 (permalink)
pacaveli Psycho Location: MD	thanks for the advice, i would of never known that refurbs are even worth looking at __________________ Check my blog out. Basically me talking about video games http://gginsights.blogspot.com/

08-15-2006, 02:37 AM	#10 (permalink)
aphex140 Psycho Location: northamptonshire	SOny nwa 3000 20 GIG hard drive and its not a ipod __________________ Computers allow us to make more mistakes at a faster rate than any other man-made thing, with the exception of handguns and tequila. [/QUOTE=BAMF]Do they role a die, with a 1/3 chance of being flacid?[/QUOTE]

08-09-2006, 04:33 PM	#3 (permalink)
ratbastid Darth Papa Location: Yonder	I'm a big fan of refurb equipment. Okay, maybe it was broken once, but it had an actual technician's actual hands on it. A real live person ensured that the device worked, which is more than you can say for a factory unit that rolled off the line and straight into a box. I've had lots of refurb devices in my day, and they've all worked great. IMO, refurbs are the best kept secret in the electronics industry.

08-15-2006, 01:58 AM	#9 (permalink)
Bolla Upright Location: above and beyond	It's a better deal if it comes with a warranty cause you never know whats gonna happen. I bought my refurbed iriver from ebay and it came with a 3 month warranty. It was fully functional and had no deflects or blemishes but I had to reset it a couple times cause it froze (I was pressing the buttons too fast).

08-15-2006, 05:47 PM	#13 (permalink)
Bolla Upright Location: above and beyond	then I guess you should buy it. Don't ipods have limited recharges anyways? Good luck!

08-20-2006, 04:13 AM	#15 (permalink)
Jex Upright	My guess is that it has had a new battery fitted. The batteries have a life span and they are not replaceable (by the everyday battery user). When the battery goes flat they give a $40 refund on a new Ipod. My guess is that it is somoene elses flat battery.

08-20-2006, 07:56 PM	#16 (permalink)
monkeysugar I'll be on the veranda, since you're on the cross. Location: Rand McNally's friendliest small town in America. They must have strayed from the dodgy parts...	http://www.apple.com/support/ipod/service/battery/ one venue, of a very long list of google results. __________________ I've got the love of my life and a job that I enjoy most of the time. Life is good.