telekinetic

Cute trick, can we please either turn it off or add a control-panel option to toggle it? I almost ragequit my reply to Natural Manhood due to having to delete the byline every time I copied a line.

Please?

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Jinn

Likewise, I've pasted links to places where I really didn't want them to know the source was TFP.

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Jetée

What is this in response to; is this a newly-implemented feature?

I'm sorry to intrude like this, and I'm not a mod or anything, but how does this new "twitch" in the system work? Does it work when you copy outside of the TFP, and paste the portions into the text editor box, or does it do something when you copy a line from a replied post here, and seek to share it elsewhere?

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dlish

jetee, this is what happns if you copy and paste part of your post within TFP. i havent tried it outsde TFP yet. ill see how it works and let you know

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Cynthetiq

This is a new cut/paste tracking mod that I installed in order to get more views and links back to TFP.

I installed it in April and since then has gotten us about just over 300 new visitors and has tracked that our content has been copied about 23,000 times in various locations from email to Facebook, blogs to web comments.

There isn't a way to configure it for users to disable it that I know of without disabling the benefits of attribution to TFP. I'll ask their support team if there is anything that I'm missing.

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Jetée

Thanks for the swift reply staff. I haven't tried it out as of yet, either, and while I was confused as to how it works, I did think it was something similar to what Cynthetiq stated just now.

I thought I might like the idea of this feature, (before learning exactly how it works, which is weird). It gives the TFP more traffic by actually showing where the content, discussion, share, whatever originated from, which if copied from, would be here, right?
It's like an automatic track-back source of citation, if I have it pegged.

This is a good solution, I think. I'll need to learn more about it, though.

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Cynthetiq

I'm sending you a PM Jet.

It really is a good tool, really letting us know where our content is being re purposed and I try to leverage it as best as possible.

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telekinetic

Do you understand my frustration with it? I feel like it is borderline malware. It's doing something without the user's consent and/or knowledge.

I feel like the potential for disaster is high, also...what if someone wants to post something in another blog that they typed up on TFP? If they don't notice the byline, now everyone at their blog knows which thread the copy/paste came from, and now gramma knows that Jr has questions about threesomes anal sex.

Not to mention how annoying it was to line-by-line reply to a complex response and have to delete the byline every time.

I feel like the upside is of questionable value, and the downside is either annoyance or potential disaster.

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SecretMethod70

telekinetic: I've run into a few circumstances where it was an inconvenience, but I've always noticed the byline before submitting. I realize that could be because I'm already aware of it.

With regards to your line by line response, why not just hit the quote button and cut it up in the text editor?

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Jetée

In regards, in my opinion, it all depends on where you are actually finding it necessary to quote large chunks of previously posted content on TFP, and share it elsewhere.

I still think it is a good idea that the admins have found a way to "force" referrals back to stuff originally seen here (but some things might not have been posted here first anyway, and it just takes ~2 sec to wipe it away if need be), and garner a notice that these intelligent and/or interesting clumps of information were sparked and seen on the TFP. I think the upside is significantly higher than what you may see it as, because it generates a lot more notice, whereas before, people wouldn't have botherd to share that they might participate here.

The downside factor is that it could be a contention on inconvenience to just do away with that byline "signature" of 'this thought came from this TFP thread. Check it out!', multiple times a day, just to not let friends and family on the web know you are a member here.

Perhaps I don't think too many members actually make mention of anything they might post here outside of this community, let alone copy and paste entire paragraphs of it, and send it off elsewhere. This new feature is a solution to the problem of the TFP's shyness, which in turn, has created another problem, because some members (myself included) are not ready to share the TFP with friends, family, unsupsecting new acquaintances, for fear of probing questions, or replies "are you trying to spam, Danny? How could you do that to your own sister?".. I don't know.

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Redlemon

Wow, that's a huge number for one month of usage. Is it mostly copies with intention, or is it largely spambots trying to create fake pages? And, how can you see into emails?

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Cynthetiq

Comparing it to malware is a bit of a stretch, and anyone who is posting to a blog. One particular comment in someone else's blog has given us a good number of people visiting.

MacDailyNews

Again, with the gramma is a bit of a stretch. Any place that has sensitive information like MP and TE while it may attribute, doesn't allow for access anyways. If I could see who was doing the cut pasting, it would be better because then I'd be able to monitor who ended up taking that image of one of our members for tshirt hell.

As far as SM's suggestion, it's how I've always done my point to point lines. It's way to hard to track what I've cut/pasted even before the mod.

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A good number of it are probably from link farms that make strange pages, but I don't see any track backs from them and this system.

The number that I'm paying attention to are the Facebook, email, and other direct links. I can't see email, but it's easy enough to know that when you've clicked on something in email via different analytics. I spend a good amount of time looking at this stuff everyday, but I can tell you rest assured, I cannot see into your email. I can just see that the link clicked generated this referral:

us.mg1.mail.yahoo.com

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Cynthetiq

You can disable it here.

Tynt Opt In/Out

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telekinetic

Thanks!

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Cynthetiq

Did that help?

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Thanks!
Did that help?

Read more: http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/tilted-...#ixzz0nlXP7Qep


no it did not help ...

Cynthetiq

if you didn't go to the link and click opt out nothing changes. I tested it before I posted it and tested it again.

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telekinetic

If you didn't go to the link and click opt out nothing changes. I tested it before I posted it and tested it again.

edit: yep, still working for me

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telekinetic

Just to be completely clear, to other people who want to make this change: You have to redo the opt-out procedure for every browser that you use, and also redo it whenever you clear your cookies.

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SecretMethod70

There are also extensions that allow you to block Tynt if you so choose...

Firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/9609/
Chrome: https://chrome.google.com/extensions...hmojicomlgmkam

That said, I'll quote a commenter at DownloadSquad, where I learned about the Chrome extension:

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telekinetic

Daring Fireball: Tynt, the Copy/Paste Jerks

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Xerxys

Bumpity,

I got a new computer. This is just not working for me. Any more suggestions? The addon failed.

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