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DDDDave · 11-11-2005, 06:32 PM

Joe Montana had a great answer on Rome's show the other day on how he would have handled TO. 'I would see him open, give him a nod, and then throw to somebody else'.

Doesn't he realize that as a receiver, he has no control over his stats. Only his QB does.

Borla · 11-12-2005, 07:16 AM

I have the perfect solution!!

maleficent · 11-14-2005, 04:25 AM

xx

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PHILADELPHIA (AP) -- The Rev. Jesse Jackson called the Philadelphia Eagles' punishment of Terrell Owens "much too severe."

Jackson said in a statement released Friday that Owens could have been more professional when he publicly complained about his contract, his team and the Eagles' organization.

But Jackson said Owens' suspension without pay for four games and deactivation for the rest of the season is "much too severe for the charge" and hurts the athlete's NFL career at its height.

The civil rights activist said the level of punishment could have been warranted if Owens had been caught shaving points, selling drugs, carrying a gun or fighting fans without sufficient restraint.

"This does not warrant a one-year ban from the game," Jackson said, adding that the Eagles should release Owens to the open market or free agency if they no longer want to associate with him.

Ralph Nader, a consumer activist and former presidential candidate, has already called for the suspension to be rescinded.

Owens was suspended last week after he said in an interview that the Eagles showed "a lack of class" for not publicly recognizing his 100th career touchdown catch, and that the team would be better off with Green Bay's Brett Favre as quarterback. He has since apologized.

Complete statement
"Terrell Owens did an interview last week and engaged in some unsportsmanlike speech, deemed detrimental to the team, but nonetheless free speech. He expressed some dissatisfaction with his contract, his team and the Eagles' organization, which should have been expressed in a more professional manner. The Eagles have suspended T.O. for four games without pay and have decided to deactivate him for the rest of the year. His future in the National Football League is uncertain, thus potentially ending his career at its heights.

"This punishment is much too severe for the charge. If he had been caught shaving points, selling drugs, carrying a gun or fighting some fans, who provoked him, and he had not shown sufficient restraint, we could understand the severe suspension, because those are very serious and illegal acts. Unfortunately for T.O., who belatedly apologized three days after the infraction, the real question is do his comments warrant a penalty this severe?

"The answer is no. This does not warrant a one-year ban from the game. The NFL Players Association has taken a position that the punishment does not correspond with the infraction and the association wants the Eagles to cut T.O. if they are not going to reinstate him. I agree. T.O. has publicly apologized. His heart is contrite. If the Philadelphia Eagles' owners do not find his apology acceptable and no longer aim to maintain an association with him, they should release him to the open market or free agency, allowing him to test the free market for his services. I call for fairness in this dispute."

Thanks for your opinion Jesse, now sit down and shaddup... How exactly does anyone but TO know what is in TO's heart... And Ralph nader weighs in too? What's good ole Ralphie planning on a run for president again and is trying to get his name in the news?

djtestudo · 11-14-2005, 07:06 AM

"Jesse Jackson has taken time out from his busy schedule of garnering publicity elsewhere so he can devote all his efforts to garnering publicity here."
--Dave Barry

Leto · 11-14-2005, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by lunchbox

Serves the s.o.b. right.

Anyone know if this guy grew up and only child? He seems to have no understanding of right and wrong and apparently doesn't understand that your mouth will get you in trouble.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/column...len&id=2214754

I'm sorry, I can't link to the above at work. Can it be posted along with the link?

pan6467 · 11-14-2005, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by maleficent

Thanks for your opinion Jesse, now sit down and shaddup... How exactly does anyone but TO know what is in TO's heart... And Ralph nader weighs in too? What's good ole Ralphie planning on a run for president again and is trying to get his name in the news?

I love ya Mal but you leave Ralphie alone.... I voted for him in '00.

Honest, I did. It was the first thing that truly attracted my ex wife to me, was the fact I voted for him.

Ustwo · 11-14-2005, 02:07 PM

As a Bears fan, I hope that T.O. finds a home with the packers.

Muhahahaha.

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Originally Posted by maleficent

What's good ole Ralphie planning on a run for president again and is trying to get his name in the news?

Oh please, oh please, oh please!

maleficent · 11-14-2005, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by maleficent

And Ralph nader weighs in too? What's good ole Ralphie planning on a run for president again and is trying to get his name in the news?

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Originally Posted by pan6467

I love ya Mal but you leave Ralphie alone.... I voted for him in '00.

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Originally Posted by Ustwo

Oh please, oh please, oh please!

Buncha weirdos I tell ya... weirdos

Ustwo · 11-14-2005, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by maleficent

Buncha weirdos I tell ya... weirdos

But for delightfuly different reasons

Ace_O_Spades · 11-15-2005, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Ustwo

As a Bears fan, I hope that T.O. finds a home with the packers.

Muhahahaha.

< Vader>
NNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
< /Vader>

Spartak · 11-15-2005, 03:49 PM

I think the only team dumb enough to take him would be the Raiders but even they are saying "NO" right now. Mind you they don't even have the cap room to accomodate his lavish contract demands.

tspikes51 · 11-15-2005, 08:23 PM

He's going to Cleveland. They are in dire need of a star and Cleveland fans would love somebody with a big mouth. I realize that I'm just a tiny bit biased because of my affection for another Ohio pro football team, but it really seems logical that this is where he would go.

Sion · 11-15-2005, 10:34 PM

"But Jackson said Owens' suspension without pay for four games and deactivation for the rest of the season is "much too severe for the charge" and hurts the athlete's NFL career at its height."

that's the point, jackass.

lunchbox · 11-15-2005, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by tspikes51

He's going to Cleveland. They are in dire need of a star and Cleveland fans would love somebody with a big mouth. I realize that I'm just a tiny bit biased because of my affection for another Ohio pro football team, but it really seems logical that this is where he would go.

I sure hope you don't have affection towards a certain college ohio football team because they're about to get tore up by the big blue machine.

Sion · 11-15-2005, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by lunchbox

I sure hope you don't have affection towards a certain college ohio football team because they're about to get tore up by the big blue machine.

can I have some of what you're smoking?

spectre · 11-15-2005, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Sion

"But Jackson said Owens' suspension without pay for four games and deactivation for the rest of the season is "much too severe for the charge" and hurts the athlete's NFL career at its height."

That's funny, I thought his mouth was what's hurting his NFL career.

pan6467 · 11-16-2005, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by lunchbox

I sure hope you don't have affection towards a certain college ohio football team because they're about to get tore up by the big blue machine.

I don't give a damn about the whole state of Michigan, whole state of Michigan, whole state of Mighigan.

I don't give a damn about the whole state of Michigan, I'm from O HI O

In the immortal words of Coach Woody Hayes, "We're going to go up to tthat school up North, and we're going to hit them and knock them on their asses, when they try to get up we're going to keep knocking them on their ass till they realize they are beaten...... that's how you win football games and that's how Ohio State is going to beat that team up North."

God Bless Coach Hayes.

// end threadjack

lunchbox · 11-16-2005, 09:25 AM

Coach Hayes is a sucker. I will be gentle and not rub it in when the vest is destroyed by Coach Lloyd.

I will not even expect a "congratulations" from you fools, i know you'll be too heart broken to leave you bed for weeks after the Maize and Blue murderlize you.

tspikes51 · 11-16-2005, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by lunchbox

I sure hope you don't have affection towards a certain college ohio football team because they're about to get tore up by the big blue machine.

As a matter of fact, I am. Fuck some Wolverines.

Justsomeguy · 11-18-2005, 03:59 PM

TO is entertaining. And his job is to be an entertainer, so I think he's doing a good job.

Why all the hate?

maximusveritas · 11-18-2005, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Justsomeguy

TO is entertaining. And his job is to be an entertainer, so I think he's doing a good job.

Why all the hate?

I'm kinda confused about that too. I can understand it when people jokingly bash Owens as many have done here, but I've also sensed some real hatred of the guy elsewhere and that's a bit disconcerting to me as a sports fan. It is just a game and it's just entertainment.

djtestudo · 11-18-2005, 07:35 PM

It would be one thing if he was just talking smack and signing footballs after TDs. That IS entertaining, and is one of the reasons why I love Chad Johnson (despite his present condition of BeingontheBengalsitis

).

However, Owens has somewhere along the way moved into the realm of believing his own hype. Johnson has a big mouth, but it is well known how hard he works and how well he is liked by both his teammates and opponents. Owens believes he is the only thing that matters, and so everyone should do what he wants.

He whined himself out of San Francisco when he was the one who fucked up his chance. He whined himself out of a trade to Baltimore and into Philadelphia after San Francisco tried to give him what he wanted. He spent a season (mostly) praising McNabb, then almost before he leaves the site of the Super Bowl he is tearing him a new one.

He is a complete asshole in every sense of the word.

gonadman · 11-19-2005, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by djtestudo

He is a complete asshole in every sense of the word.

Absolutely. I don't care if he screws up his own career, but by badmouthing his QB, coaching staff, the Eagles organization as a whole, and causing divisions in the locker room, he is causing distractions which affect the team performance on the field. McNabb is(was) playing hurt but I don't believe for a second thats the only reason for his worst season ever in Philly. I remember him throwing 3 TDs on a broken ankle a couple years ago. Go screw yourself TO but don't take the team down with you.

gonadman · 11-19-2005, 09:53 AM

One more thing. The guy is a frickin time bomb. God help any team that picks him up. Maybe a team that needs a little more offensive punch to get them into the SB this year, but forget about a long term contract. Sooner or later, without a doubt, he'll explode again. The guy can't keep his mouth shut.

Sion · 11-19-2005, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by lunchbox

I sure hope you don't have affection towards a certain college ohio football team because they're about to get tore up by the big blue machine.

Ohio State 25
Michigan 21

what was that you were saying?

Sion · 11-19-2005, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by lunchbox

Coach Hayes is a sucker. I will be gentle and not rub it in when the vest is destroyed by Coach Lloyd.

I will not even expect a "congratulations" from you fools, i know you'll be too heart broken to leave you bed for weeks after the Maize and Blue murderlize you.

see previous post.

cementor · 11-19-2005, 02:23 PM

Sorry I goofed see the next one!!

cementor · 11-19-2005, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Sion

I have two things to say about this whole matter:

1. Anyone, and I do mean anyone, who is in any way defending TO is a bigger fool than he is.

2. This is, was, and always will be about the $$. TO wants to redo a contract he just signed LAST FRIGGIN YEAR, and the organization told him to go pound salt. As a result, he's making himself the biggest pain in the ass that he can be. He's trying to force a trade/release so he can "feed his family".

TO is a me-first, money-grubbing shitbag. If I was an NFL owner, HE couldn't pay ME enough to be on my team.

fuck him.

Sion has it on the nut. AMEN Brother!!! and a hearty F You TO as well.

I saw a short list of who might end up with TO next year. It included the Broncos and the Cowboys, my favorite pro teams. I don't think Shanahan or Parcells will put up with his BS. If they sign the A hole they go to the top of my shit list!! (I'm sure bith franchises are scared to death to be in that spot!)

lunchbox · 11-19-2005, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Sion

see previous post.

I was saying... at least we got a good game. I sure don't like you buckeyes (or your head coach) but I respect you guys because you always bring it.

Here's to next year.

Sion · 11-19-2005, 08:02 PM

not liking the Buckeyes I can understand. but how can you not like Jim Tressel? He's only one of the top 5 coaches in the NCAA and an upstanding citizen to boot.

Dragonknight · 11-19-2005, 08:14 PM

Ahh hah hah hah haaaaa where are the eagles going now NOWHERE, where NOWHERE!!!!
Yeah TO ran his mouth in a completely wrong manner, NEVER and I repeat NEVER diss your team in public. That is your family while the season is going, even if some of what you say, "Cough" a family recognizes big things "Cough", "Cough" QB getting tired in the Super Bowl WTF!!! "Cough". Still the point is that you never diss your team. Now that McNabb is hurt, the Eagles have a better chance of growing wings out of their asses, then of going anywhere this season without TO. Hell even with him, there chances still aren't that good. You have to give credit where credit is due. Yes TO is a (fill in whole list of shitty things), but he is a DAMN good player that brings in BIG plays and even BIGGER numbers.

lunchbox · 11-19-2005, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sion

not liking the Buckeyes I can understand. but how can you not like Jim Tressel? He's only one of the top 5 coaches in the NCAA and an upstanding citizen to boot.

He's got terrible taste in clothing.

Lwang9276 · 11-21-2005, 01:31 AM

so back to TO i feel that hes just mentally unstable, but he is one hell of a reciever. I hope he comes back just to play and this time he just does his business and keeps his mouth shut. Hopefully he learned his lesson and with whatever team he signs with next he can learn from his mistakes, but since this is basically the second time i doubt it, who knows maybe his thrid times the chamr, and if it is hopefully its with the chargers.. brees, lt, gates, mccardell and TO would be ownage to the maximum

Borla · 11-21-2005, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Lwang9276

so back to TO i feel that hes just mentally unstable, but he is one hell of a reciever. I hope he comes back just to play and this time he just does his business and keeps his mouth shut. Hopefully he learned his lesson and with whatever team he signs with next he can learn from his mistakes, but since this is basically the second time i doubt it, who knows maybe his thrid times the chamr, and if it is hopefully its with the chargers.. brees, lt, gates, mccardell and TO would be ownage to the maximum

I can't imagine the Chargers wanting him. Brees is still a relatively young QB, and I don't think there would be enough footballs to go around on that team if you added TO.

gonadman · 11-21-2005, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragonknight

Ahh hah hah hah haaaaa where are the eagles going now NOWHERE, where NOWHERE!!!!

Heh heh, sounds like a diehard fan of one of the many NFC teams the Eagles have thumped repeatedly over the past 4 years.

I used to feel that way about the Cowboys in the 70's

Justsomeguy · 11-23-2005, 12:15 PM

My fiancee knows who TO is now from the news. I'd be surprised if she knows any top player in the NFL atm. Possibly one or two, but I doubt it.

Why is his actions so outrageous? He grew up a poor trashy black kid without any real goals in a piece of shit town. What kind of behavior do you really expect? A Christ-like figure? He's a solid entertainer and as much of an asshole as everyone says that he is, I'm sure he has still donated more to charities/aiding others than pretty much anyone on this board. Agents, money, and public service reps help make it happen, but he still did it. More than most people can say.

pan6467 · 11-23-2005, 12:42 PM

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Ruling goes against Owens in NFL arbitration case

November 23, 2005
PHILADELPHIA, United States (AFP) - Arbitrator Richard Bloch ruled against controversial receiver Terrell Owens, upholding his four-game banishment by the Philadelphia Eagles for conduct detrimental to the team.

The final game of his suspension is Sunday against Green Bay.

Bloch presided over a 13-hour hearing last Friday at which Owens argued the punishment imposed by the Eagles was excessive and sought to be released if he was to be punished by being benched every week.

The Eagles argued Owens violated his contract by making derogatory public comments about the club and questioning the skill and durability of quarterback Donovan McNabb, who will soon undergo season-ending surgery for a sport hernia.

Owens was suspended by Eagles coach Andy Reid for conduct detrimental to the team for four games, with Reid saying Owens would never again play for the team as it planned to deactivate him for all remaining games after the banishment.

The NFL Players Association argued to have the suspension reduced and force the Eagles to play Owens or release him.

Officials are concerned Owens will become a greater distraction should he be allowed to return to the Eagles training facility and rejoin the club, however briefly.

The Eagles argue they are entitled to the return of 1.7 million dollars in bonus money from Owens but have said they would forfeit the funds rather than bring back Owens.

The Eagles are 4-6 and have lost three games in a row since banishing Owens, who had 77 catches for 1,200 yards and a club record 14 touchdowns last season. This season, Owens had 47 catches for 763 yards and six touchdowns.

Owens, who makes a base salary of 3.75 million dollars this season, would go through the NFL waiver system if released with the league's worst club having the first chance to claim the talented but controversial receiver.

The Houston Texans would have the first chance but team officials have already questioned why they would want a divisive and expensive player on the squad given their woeful 1-9 start.

Owens has been unhappy since the club refused in the off-season to renegotiate his seven-year, 48 million-dollar contract after he helped the Eagles reach the Super Bowl, which they lost to New England in February.

Well, well..... It is nice to see an arbitrator rule for a club, perhaps others will now and some of these "pros" will realize when they sign a contract they also sign away some rights.

Initially, I thought TO was getting the short end of the stick but as details came out I realized he got what he deserved. In fact, I would have suspended him without pay for the rest of the season not just 4 games. As an owner and a team you have to look at situations like this as someone "TO" who does not want to win nor supports the team, then you have to ask why would I pay him these millions for not wanting to be a part of the team and for being a divisive influence that may cause my team to lose, therfore I would lose money, because fan support would go down.

Also, it's well deserved he'll have to go through the waiver wire....

........ and it says something when the worst team in the league with the first pick says "NO T.O. here"..... just think what a blow to his ego it would be if noone claimed him...... one can only hope.

I wish Boston would have done the same to Manny when he cried during the playoffs that he wanted traded.

Ace_O_Spades · 11-23-2005, 12:58 PM

Yeah, I think it would be sweet chin music to T.O. if clubs passed on him.

Too much baggage, he's a menace.

Officially Keshawned

djtestudo · 11-23-2005, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by pan6467

Well, well..... It is nice to see an arbitrator rule for a club, perhaps others will now and some of these "pros" will realize when they sign a contract they also sign away some rights.

Initially, I thought TO was getting the short end of the stick but as details came out I realized he got what he deserved. In fact, I would have suspended him without pay for the rest of the season not just 4 games. As an owner and a team you have to look at situations like this as someone "TO" who does not want to win nor supports the team, then you have to ask why would I pay him these millions for not wanting to be a part of the team and for being a divisive influence that may cause my team to lose, therfore I would lose money, because fan support would go down.

Also, it's well deserved he'll have to go through the waiver wire....

........ and it says something when the worst team in the league with the first pick says "NO T.O. here"..... just think what a blow to his ego it would be if noone claimed him...... one can only hope.

I wish Boston would have done the same to Manny when he cried during the playoffs that he wanted traded.

On the point of suspending him longer, that is the longest "suspension" allowed.

All I can say is that I am glad his asshole-ness allowed him to flaunt the NFL rules and refuse his trade to Baltimore.

Sion · 11-23-2005, 10:40 PM

I wish I could get paid to sit home.

TO is still an asshole though.

11-11-2005, 06:32 PM	#41 (permalink)
DDDDave Addict Location: Sarasota	Joe Montana had a great answer on Rome's show the other day on how he would have handled TO. 'I would see him open, give him a nod, and then throw to somebody else'. Doesn't he realize that as a receiver, he has no control over his stats. Only his QB does. __________________ I am just a simple man trying to make my way in the universe... "Go confidently in the direction of your dreams. Live the life you have imagined." - Thoreau "Nothing great was ever accomplished without enthusiasm" - Emerson

11-12-2005, 07:16 AM	#42 (permalink)
Borla Junkie	I have the perfect solution!! __________________ Coimhéad fearg fhear na foighde!!!!

11-14-2005, 07:06 AM	#44 (permalink)
djtestudo Baltimoron Location: Beeeeeautiful Bel Air, MD	"Jesse Jackson has taken time out from his busy schedule of garnering publicity elsewhere so he can devote all his efforts to garnering publicity here." --Dave Barry __________________ "Final thought: I just rented Michael Moore's Bowling for Columbine. Frankly, it was the worst sports movie I've ever seen." --Peter Schmuck, The (Baltimore) Sun

11-15-2005, 03:49 PM	#51 (permalink)
Spartak Bang bang Location: New Zealand	I think the only team dumb enough to take him would be the Raiders but even they are saying "NO" right now. Mind you they don't even have the cap room to accomodate his lavish contract demands. __________________ I can read your mind... looking at you... I can read your mind...

11-15-2005, 08:23 PM	#52 (permalink)
tspikes51 Fuckin' A Location: Lex Vegas	He's going to Cleveland. They are in dire need of a star and Cleveland fans would love somebody with a big mouth. I realize that I'm just a tiny bit biased because of my affection for another Ohio pro football team, but it really seems logical that this is where he would go. __________________ "I'm telling you, we need to get rid of a few people or a million." -Maddox

11-15-2005, 10:34 PM	#53 (permalink)
Sion Dumb all over...a little ugly on the side Location: In the room where the giant fire puffer works, and the torture never stops.	"But Jackson said Owens' suspension without pay for four games and deactivation for the rest of the season is "much too severe for the charge" and hurts the athlete's NFL career at its height." that's the point, jackass. __________________ He's the best, of course, of all the worst. Some wrong been done, he done it first. -fz I jus' want ta thank you...falettinme...be mice elf...agin...

11-16-2005, 09:25 AM	#58 (permalink)
lunchbox Thank God hockey is back Location: Deeeeeetroit	Coach Hayes is a sucker. I will be gentle and not rub it in when the vest is destroyed by Coach Lloyd. I will not even expect a "congratulations" from you fools, i know you'll be too heart broken to leave you bed for weeks after the Maize and Blue murderlize you. __________________ A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Douglas Adams

11-18-2005, 03:59 PM	#60 (permalink)
Justsomeguy Insane	TO is entertaining. And his job is to be an entertainer, so I think he's doing a good job. Why all the hate?

11-18-2005, 07:35 PM	#62 (permalink)
djtestudo Baltimoron Location: Beeeeeautiful Bel Air, MD	It would be one thing if he was just talking smack and signing footballs after TDs. That IS entertaining, and is one of the reasons why I love Chad Johnson (despite his present condition of BeingontheBengalsitis ). However, Owens has somewhere along the way moved into the realm of believing his own hype. Johnson has a big mouth, but it is well known how hard he works and how well he is liked by both his teammates and opponents. Owens believes he is the only thing that matters, and so everyone should do what he wants. He whined himself out of San Francisco when he was the one who fucked up his chance. He whined himself out of a trade to Baltimore and into Philadelphia after San Francisco tried to give him what he wanted. He spent a season (mostly) praising McNabb, then almost before he leaves the site of the Super Bowl he is tearing him a new one. He is a complete asshole in every sense of the word. __________________ "Final thought: I just rented Michael Moore's Bowling for Columbine. Frankly, it was the worst sports movie I've ever seen." --Peter Schmuck, The (Baltimore) Sun

11-19-2005, 09:53 AM	#64 (permalink)
gonadman Psycho Location: Philly	One more thing. The guy is a frickin time bomb. God help any team that picks him up. Maybe a team that needs a little more offensive punch to get them into the SB this year, but forget about a long term contract. Sooner or later, without a doubt, he'll explode again. The guy can't keep his mouth shut. __________________ For me there is only the traveling on paths that have heart, on any path that may have heart. There I travel, and the only worthwhile challenge is to traverse its full length. And there I travel, looking, looking, ...breathlessly. -Carlos Castaneda

11-19-2005, 02:23 PM	#67 (permalink)
cementor Crazy Location: Denver	Sorry I goofed see the next one!! __________________ Cementor If I was any better I'd have to be twins! Last edited by cementor; 11-19-2005 at 02:30 PM..

11-19-2005, 08:02 PM	#70 (permalink)
Sion Dumb all over...a little ugly on the side Location: In the room where the giant fire puffer works, and the torture never stops.	not liking the Buckeyes I can understand. but how can you not like Jim Tressel? He's only one of the top 5 coaches in the NCAA and an upstanding citizen to boot. __________________ He's the best, of course, of all the worst. Some wrong been done, he done it first. -fz I jus' want ta thank you...falettinme...be mice elf...agin...

11-19-2005, 08:14 PM	#71 (permalink)
Dragonknight Insane Location: Hawaii	Ahh hah hah hah haaaaa where are the eagles going now NOWHERE, where NOWHERE!!!! Yeah TO ran his mouth in a completely wrong manner, NEVER and I repeat NEVER diss your team in public. That is your family while the season is going, even if some of what you say, "Cough" a family recognizes big things "Cough", "Cough" QB getting tired in the Super Bowl WTF!!! "Cough". Still the point is that you never diss your team. Now that McNabb is hurt, the Eagles have a better chance of growing wings out of their asses, then of going anywhere this season without TO. Hell even with him, there chances still aren't that good. You have to give credit where credit is due. Yes TO is a (fill in whole list of shitty things), but he is a DAMN good player that brings in BIG plays and even BIGGER numbers. __________________ Freedom is NOT Free.

11-21-2005, 01:31 AM	#73 (permalink)
Lwang9276 Crazy	so back to TO i feel that hes just mentally unstable, but he is one hell of a reciever. I hope he comes back just to play and this time he just does his business and keeps his mouth shut. Hopefully he learned his lesson and with whatever team he signs with next he can learn from his mistakes, but since this is basically the second time i doubt it, who knows maybe his thrid times the chamr, and if it is hopefully its with the chargers.. brees, lt, gates, mccardell and TO would be ownage to the maximum

11-23-2005, 12:15 PM	#76 (permalink)
Justsomeguy Insane	My fiancee knows who TO is now from the news. I'd be surprised if she knows any top player in the NFL atm. Possibly one or two, but I doubt it. Why is his actions so outrageous? He grew up a poor trashy black kid without any real goals in a piece of shit town. What kind of behavior do you really expect? A Christ-like figure? He's a solid entertainer and as much of an asshole as everyone says that he is, I'm sure he has still donated more to charities/aiding others than pretty much anyone on this board. Agents, money, and public service reps help make it happen, but he still did it. More than most people can say.

11-23-2005, 12:58 PM	#78 (permalink)
Ace_O_Spades The Death Card Location: EH!?!?	Yeah, I think it would be sweet chin music to T.O. if clubs passed on him. Too much baggage, he's a menace. Officially Keshawned __________________ Feh.

11-23-2005, 10:40 PM	#80 (permalink)
Sion Dumb all over...a little ugly on the side Location: In the room where the giant fire puffer works, and the torture never stops.	I wish I could get paid to sit home. TO is still an asshole though. __________________ He's the best, of course, of all the worst. Some wrong been done, he done it first. -fz I jus' want ta thank you...falettinme...be mice elf...agin...