If Terrell Suggs did that to Heath Miller tomorrow night, you would be first in line holding the noose.

That is a dirty play.

Yeah, one's a Raven and one's a Steeler. I do think Hines Ward is a great player and someone I would want, but there is a reason why you hear his name mentioned on TV as one of the dirtier players in the league.

Ray Lewis vs. Jerome Bettis

7 Tackles - 28 yards - 4.0 per carry.

In other words, brought down every time he got past the line, which is his job.

Yeah, that's it :rolleyes:

If that is what makes you feel better about playing the Ravens, you go right on ahead and believe it.

If that's how many times a Steelers player looks in that direction and "trips", that sounds about right.

bullshit and bullshit. an injured player should not lineup up for a snap, regardless of the play called. it really is that simple. you line up, you better be ready to get hit. this is football, not tiddlywinks.


the only I time I ever hear Hines called a dirty player is when they interview the Ravens. gee, I wonder why.


averages don't tell the whole story. like the play where Bettis dragged Rayray a full 5 yards after initial contact. besides, a truly great MLB makes plays at and even occasionally behind the LOS. not 4 yards downfield. Rayray has been exposed as incredibly average ever since those two behemoths in front of him moved on.

but hey, if you're comfortable with an opposing player averaging over 4 yards per carry against your vaunted defense, more power to ya, I guess.


the one-hit wonders haven't scared anyone in a LOOOOOOOOOOOONG time. get back to me around midnight tonight.

trust me on this one, it's gonna get ugly for your boys.

That average is only the plays where Jerome Bettis was tackled by Ray Lewis. Considering Lewis is generally five yards behind the line at the start of the play, I wouldn't say that holds much for Jerome.

But I guess if we're using one play to judge them, we should do that for everyone. Antonio Freeman made the greatest catch I've ever seen on Monday Night Football, so he must be one of the best receivers of all time. Or, Joey Porter made the dirtiest play I've ever seen on Tood Heap, so he must be one of the dirtiest players of all time.
And how many Super Bowls have the Steelers won recently? As in, since the time they were playing the Baltimore COLTS?

How 'bout them Steelers? They came a dumbass quarterback away from losing to the Ravens.

Definately an impressive team :rolleyes: ;)

Yep, Barely sqeaked one out against the lowly Ravens minus some key parts. What will happen when they play a good team?

Yeah, a lot closer than it should have been. Our defense was not on top of things at all, sadly. Definitly an entertaining game, though, as Steelers-Ravens games usually are, even if we should have crushed you ;).

And yes, Wright is a dumbass. What kind of clutch play was that? Lob it to some guy 3 yards downfield on 4th down with 20 seconds left?

Not to mention taking a sack the play before instead of throwing the ball away and stopping the clock, or the multitude of open receivers he either didn't see or overthrew.

It matters not how you get the win, only that you do.

how's that cellar feel these days? is it cold down there? probably smells bad too, what with the Browns being there with you and all.

Yeah right, I guarantee you were shitting your pants while the Ravens had the ball for that final failed drive. What happened to " trust me its gonna get ugly"? It almost got real ugly for your boys.

actually no. I was pretty sure Wright was gonna choke with the game on the line.

so, what you are saying is that I was right. I said it was gonna get ugly and it did, for both sides.

What you said was its gonna get ugly for the Ravens. Now you say you knew Pissburg was gonna stink up the place also. Thats great. What can I say, it's not the Ravens year this year. The only consolation is it's never Pissburgs year.

since 1996 (the cRavens 1st year of existence) and counting the games played thus far this year:

winning seasons:
Steelers: 7
cRavens: 3


the Steelers: 92 wins, 58 losses, 1 tie
averages: wins 9.2, losses 5.8

the cRavens: 72 wins, 76 losses, 1 tie
averages: wins 7.2, losses 7.6

head to head: Steelers 13 wins, cRavens 6 wins

gee, you guys haven't even been a .500 team over the whole of your measly 10 year existance. you can thank the Steelers for that.

meanwhile, despite the 40 years of futility that was the Steelers prior to the 70s, they are STILL above .500: 513-500-21


now, what was THAT you were saying?

How many Super Bowls have they won since Baltimore still had the Colts?

I was saying all those numbers and averages prove is what big choke artists they are.