Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community  

Go Back   Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community > Interests > Tilted Sports


 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 01-11-2005, 01:57 PM   #41 (permalink)
Devoted
 
Redlemon's Avatar
 
Donor
Location: New England
Quote:
Originally Posted by Strange Famous
I think Crhis Rock and George Carlin both have acts that feature things that would be considered more "Obscene" than Randy Moss' childish TD celebration. Why shouldnt they be censored too, and first?
Context. If I go to listen to George Carlin, I expect obscenities. If I rent porn, I expect naked bodies and penetration. If I watch a football game, I'd like the players to show at least some respect toward each other and the audience. Sure, call it the No Fun League if you wish, the XFL sure didn't last.
__________________
I can't read your signature. Sorry.
Redlemon is offline  
Old 01-11-2005, 01:58 PM   #42 (permalink)
Women want me. Men fear me.
 
crewsor's Avatar
 
Location: Maryland,USA
Quote:
Originally Posted by Strange Famous
I think Crhis Rock and George Carlin both have acts that feature things that would be considered more "Obscene" than Randy Moss' childish TD celebration. Why shouldnt they be censored too, and first?

It's kind of obvious, but those acts are presented in an adult forum to people who expect adult themes and generally any vulgarities are part of a joke, not the joke. Those acts most certainly would not be presented at halftime of an NFL game.
__________________
We all have wings, some of us just don't know why.
crewsor is offline  
Old 01-11-2005, 04:25 PM   #43 (permalink)
Insane
 
blitz.fenix's Avatar
 
Location: Toronto
Gimme a damn break, if you can't handle a little trash talk or taunting don't watch the game. I'm a fan of football and love to see the antics of the players. If I wanted a "class" sport I'd watch croquet or lawn bowling with my grandma. And it's funny to say it's "classless" when you're sitting in the crowd dropping f'bombs and slurping at your beer. If the opposing team is taunting you, get the ball back and score a touchdown to shut them up. This is a game where testosterone and adrenaline is going.

/endrant
blitz.fenix is offline  
Old 01-11-2005, 06:35 PM   #44 (permalink)
Junkie
 
filtherton's Avatar
 
Location: In the land of ice and snow.
People who want to be offended generally never have a problem finding a way to get offended. I'll admit that moss' celebration wasn't classy, but then again, i don't watch football out of the need to be exposed to class. I watch football because it is entertaining. I watch randy moss because he makes the game exciting. I don't care what he did after this particular touchdown, because after most of them he "classlessly" gives the ball to a handicapped child sitting on the sideline. I don't really care about that either, but it just goes to show you how the media loves controversy.

I am also not sure how football, a sport where people are payed obscene amounts of money to commit organized violence against eachother, is somehow a family thing. Is anyone honestly claiming that, out of all of the things that go on at a football game, emulation of endzone celebrations is the worst thing a child could mimic? I would think it would be any number of violent acts that occur quite regularly in the course of the game.

But as long as we're criticising celebrations, i'm going to go out on a logically consistent limb and say that anyone who has ever celebrated a birthday, or new year's eve, or even a touchdown scored by their team is a classless individual. C'mon, there are probably children around here somewhere, act like you've been there.( )

Last edited by filtherton; 01-11-2005 at 06:38 PM..
filtherton is offline  
Old 01-11-2005, 06:56 PM   #45 (permalink)
Addict
 
Location: Wherever I am!
Here the part about this that I do not like. Everyone here has said it doesn't offend them, but there were kids watching this game too. How many of you would like to see this act repeated in a pop-warner game? Kids do what they see, even when there are responsible adults around to talk to them about sportsmanship. But they do what they see, not what they hear. Chrales Barkley used to say "I am not a role model." NEWS FLASH - as a professional athlete, wether you like it or not, you are a role model. Kids want to be you. You don't think when they line up to play footbal in the street one of them is going to say "I'm Dante Culpepper, you be Randy Moss."
If you don't want your 7 yr old doing it, then don't do it on the field. Like it or not Randy Moss is a role model to lots of kids, and now they think this is an appropriate thing to do after they score a touchdown!
__________________
If ignorance is bliss, then wipe this smile off my face!
Hard8s is offline  
Old 01-12-2005, 04:00 AM   #46 (permalink)
Lennonite Priest
 
pan6467's Avatar
 
Location: Mansfield, Ohio USA
Quote:
Originally Posted by Strange Famous
I think Crhis Rock and George Carlin both have acts that feature things that would be considered more "Obscene" than Randy Moss' childish TD celebration. Why shouldnt they be censored too, and first?
Because YOU have the choice to see them or not. I love Carlin, find him a very funny man, therefore I spend money to see him. But some may find him obscene and choose not to spend their money to see him.

However, sports is supposed to be primarily family entertainment where you go to see competitors play to the highest level they can. You pay to see good sportsmanlike conduct (hopefully and in a perfect world) and to be entertained without vulgarity.

Personally, what Moss did does not bother me, HOWEVER, people paid money to take their kids to see a game, not juvenile immature selfish acts.

A player wants to dance in the end zone.... big deal.... a player wants to antagonize fans and mock them in these days where fans and athletes have apparent hatred towards one another is wrong. Sports as a whole needs to become more fan AND family friendly.

Like I said perhaps what Moss did wasn't that big BUT the next guy will push a little further and the next will push that further until someone does moon, or defecates or pisses on the field. You have to put a stop on it, before that happens.
__________________
I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"
pan6467 is offline  
Old 01-12-2005, 07:48 AM   #47 (permalink)
Transfer Agent
 
troit's Avatar
 
Location: NYC
Quote:
Originally Posted by Catmandu
I think we should just leave Randy Moss alone. If he doesn't get any attention, then his stunts will get worse and worse. Maybe he'll just 'dance' himself right out of a job.

I couldn't agree more - My parting shot "Hey Randy - NICE HAIR..."
__________________
I've yet to dephile myself...
troit is offline  
Old 01-12-2005, 12:39 PM   #48 (permalink)
Crazy
 
Location: n hollywood, ca
i think the media is blowing it out of proportion. perhaps there's a disconnect between the generations... a generation gap if you will. i see it as good fun. hell, people pay a ton of money to go watch a game (when you take into account the ticket price, sub/cab/parking fare, eating).
i mean, is the nfl going to have mooning go the way of the "slit your throat" gesture? is ray lewis' dance ok? if so, why?

the media controls what we see via the live game, the replays, the highlights, and the commentary. if they don't continue to make a point about it, there isn't really a point. if the player, in this case moss, gets asked about it before he steps off the field (by pam oliver), again in the locker room (espn staff), and then sees the replay all over the news the next few days, why wouldn't he continue to do it?

idk... i didn't see the play live, but i don't think it's that big of a deal.

don't get me wrong, moss isn't perfect, but what nfl player is? what person is? the media can spin it anyway they want... notice, how jake plummer's middle finger incident wasn't as big a deal as this. one is completely obvious (plummer's finger), and one is perceived (moss' mooning) but the 'analysts' /'gurus' talk about it in completely different ways:

terry bradshaw (fox) said that moss should be fined, that he makes a lot of money and the nfl should take a lot of it away to teach him a lesson.
tom jackson (espn) said moss has done so many things that nothing's going to get through to him, he thinks he's bigger than the game, and he'll no longer talk about it.

i don't remember what was said about jake giving the middle finger to the crowd, but they definitely weren't talking about to that extent. hell, jake plummer was only fined 5 grand... but people are talking about fining moss 50,000 and/or suspension. give me a break!

to me, the bottom line is that if you don't want to see a celebration, keep the dude out of the end zone. perhaps it's me, but i guess jake plummer has something that randy moss does not (take that comment where you will)...
__________________
An individual who breaks a law that conscience tells him is unjust, and who willingly accepts the penalty of inprisonment in order to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the highest respect for the law. - Martin Luther King, Jr.

The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. Because they control the minds of the masses. - Malcolm X
uncle_el is offline  
Old 01-12-2005, 03:13 PM   #49 (permalink)
Junkie
 
filtherton's Avatar
 
Location: In the land of ice and snow.
How is football good family entertainment?
filtherton is offline  
Old 01-13-2005, 04:26 PM   #50 (permalink)
Crazy
 
Location: n hollywood, ca
so, jake plummer gives the fans the middle finger, and is fined $5,000...

randy moss pretends to moon the crowd, and is fined $10,000...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playof...ory?id=1966180

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...x.html?cnn=yes

Quote:
The NFL said Moss was fined more than the minimum because this isn't the first time he has been disciplined for unsportsmanlike conduct. He paid a $25,000 penalty in 1999 for squirting an official with a water bottle.
__________________
An individual who breaks a law that conscience tells him is unjust, and who willingly accepts the penalty of inprisonment in order to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the highest respect for the law. - Martin Luther King, Jr.

The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. Because they control the minds of the masses. - Malcolm X
uncle_el is offline  
Old 01-13-2005, 05:50 PM   #51 (permalink)
Psycho
 
Location: Sinaloa, Mexico
Ha, I just read a great article that pointed out this little tidbit: Brett Favre is lucky Randy Moss did that or a lot of the stories would be about his absolutely fabulous 4 interception performance, easily his biggest choke of the year.

After reading all your posts, and agreeing/disagreeing with you, GOD DAMMIT it makes me so frustrated how nobody at the NFL reads these forums. If only one of the NFL head honchos actually used their heads and thought about incidents like this, instead of just doing shit to please the FCC and try and make themselves look like they are promoting fucking Disneyland.

Shit, I'm just waiting for the Superbowl Halftime show, whats it gonna be after last year, Hillary Duff and Clay Aiken?

Edit: Well, at least I just learned (thank god) that I was wrong with my SB Halftime predictions. Paul McCartney probably won't sound like Ashlee Simpson, and Alicia Keys isn't bad. However, it's funny how they did the now commonplace American Idol thing by adding Josh Gracin, "an up and coming country music SUPERSTAR(??!!) who first appeared on American Idol 2." ...alrighty then. Good thing for football games, or the American Idol winners/finalists/semifinalists/quarterfinalists/contestants wouldn't have anywhere to perform.
__________________
...I'm that cat by the bar toasting to the good life...

Last edited by Jesus Malverde; 01-13-2005 at 06:04 PM..
Jesus Malverde is offline  
Old 01-13-2005, 08:06 PM   #52 (permalink)
Junkie
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by uncle_el
so, jake plummer gives the fans the middle finger, and is fined $5,000...

randy moss pretends to moon the crowd, and is fined $10,000...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playof...ory?id=1966180

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...x.html?cnn=yes
And as if that isn't bad enough, Eric Barton hit Drew Brees in the head with his forearm and was only fined $7,500.

So, is what exactly is the message the NFL is trying to send here? You're better off assaulting a QB than to do an end zone celebration?
__________________
"Fuck these chains
No goddamn slave
I will be different"
~ Machine Head
spectre is offline  
Old 01-13-2005, 08:17 PM   #53 (permalink)
Crazy
 
Location: n hollywood, ca
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jesus Malverde
Ha, I just read a great article that pointed out this little tidbit: Brett Favre is lucky Randy Moss did that or a lot of the stories would be about his absolutely fabulous 4 interception performance, easily his biggest choke of the year.

After reading all your posts, and agreeing/disagreeing with you, GOD DAMMIT it makes me so frustrated how nobody at the NFL reads these forums. If only one of the NFL head honchos actually used their heads and thought about incidents like this, instead of just doing shit to please the FCC and try and make themselves look like they are promoting fucking Disneyland.

Shit, I'm just waiting for the Superbowl Halftime show, whats it gonna be after last year, Hillary Duff and Clay Aiken?

Edit: Well, at least I just learned (thank god) that I was wrong with my SB Halftime predictions. Paul McCartney probably won't sound like Ashlee Simpson, and Alicia Keys isn't bad. However, it's funny how they did the now commonplace American Idol thing by adding Josh Gracin, "an up and coming country music SUPERSTAR(??!!) who first appeared on American Idol 2." ...alrighty then. Good thing for football games, or the American Idol winners/finalists/semifinalists/quarterfinalists/contestants wouldn't have anywhere to perform.
yes, favre's performance was swept under the rug.
alicia keys and paul mccartney should be good.



Quote:
Originally Posted by spectre
And as if that isn't bad enough, Eric Barton hit Drew Brees in the head with his forearm and was only fined $7,500.

So, is what exactly is the message the NFL is trying to send here? You're better off assaulting a QB than to do an end zone celebration?
forgot to mention that! idk, it's weird and inconsistent to say the least.
__________________
An individual who breaks a law that conscience tells him is unjust, and who willingly accepts the penalty of inprisonment in order to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the highest respect for the law. - Martin Luther King, Jr.

The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. Because they control the minds of the masses. - Malcolm X
uncle_el is offline  
Old 01-13-2005, 08:34 PM   #54 (permalink)
Banned
 
Rdr4evr's Avatar
 
Every cheese-head that moons the oppossing teams departure should be charged 10k as well. This fine is such utter bullshit.
Rdr4evr is offline  
Old 01-14-2005, 08:36 AM   #55 (permalink)
Devoted
 
Redlemon's Avatar
 
Donor
Location: New England
Quote:
KARE-TV of Minneapolis recorded the exchange between Moss and reporters outside the Vikings' practice facility.

Reporter: "Write the check yet, Randy?"

Moss: "When you're rich you don't write checks."

Reporter: "If you don't write checks, how do you pay these guys?"

Moss: "Straight cash, homey."

Reporter: "Randy, are you upset about the fine?"

Moss: "No, cause it ain't [expletive]. Ain't nothing but 10 grand. What's 10 grand to me? Ain't [expletive] … Next time I might shake my [expletive]."
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playof...ory?id=1966180

Great, looks like he's learned his lesson.
__________________
I can't read your signature. Sorry.
Redlemon is offline  
Old 01-14-2005, 11:24 AM   #56 (permalink)
whosoever
 
martinguerre's Avatar
 
Location: New England
Quote:
Moss: "Straight cash, homey."
Classic...

I also wonder why there wasn't more to do about the fight late second quarter after the late hit. Farve looked like he threw the first punch...which i was actually quite happy about. There are fewer things on a football field softer than the quarterback's hand. if he wants to go punching...

but i did half expect some fines for that one...on the vikes side, too.
__________________
For God so loved creation, that God sent God's only Son that whosoever believed should not perish, but have everlasting life.

-John 3:16
martinguerre is offline  
Old 01-14-2005, 01:32 PM   #57 (permalink)
Junkie
 
filtherton's Avatar
 
Location: In the land of ice and snow.
Quote:
KARE-TV of Minneapolis recorded the exchange between Moss and reporters outside the Vikings' practice facility.

Reporter: "Write the check yet, Randy?"

Moss: "When you're rich you don't write checks."

Reporter: "If you don't write checks, how do you pay these guys?"

Moss: "Straight cash, homey."

Reporter: "Randy, are you upset about the fine?"

Moss: "No, cause it ain't [expletive]. Ain't nothing but 10 grand. What's 10 grand to me? Ain't [expletive] … Next time I might shake my [expletive]."
That's why i love randy moss. His provocations are priceless.
filtherton is offline  
Old 01-14-2005, 02:00 PM   #58 (permalink)
Women want me. Men fear me.
 
crewsor's Avatar
 
Location: Maryland,USA
Quote:
Originally Posted by filtherton
That's why i love randy moss. His provocations are priceless.


Yeah, Whats not to love about someone threatening to pull his dick out and shake it in public? You have to admire that.
__________________
We all have wings, some of us just don't know why.
crewsor is offline  
Old 01-14-2005, 02:14 PM   #59 (permalink)
Junkie
 
filtherton's Avatar
 
Location: In the land of ice and snow.
Quote:
Originally Posted by crewsor
Yeah, Whats not to love about someone threatening to pull his dick out and shake it in public? You have to admire that.
I love the fact that he can say shit like that and people take him seriously. I love the constant give and take between randy moss and the people who can't resist jumping over everything the man does. I just get the feeling that randy moss says things like this just to piss people off. Without fail, there is always a certain portion of the sporting world who love to humor him by getting pissed off.

Even if he did shake his wang, it would still be comedy gold.
filtherton is offline  
Old 01-15-2005, 01:53 AM   #60 (permalink)
follower of the child's crusade?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by uncle_el
so, jake plummer gives the fans the middle finger, and is fined $5,000...

randy moss pretends to moon the crowd, and is fined $10,000...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playof...ory?id=1966180

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...x.html?cnn=yes
Its a personality issue, and Im sure he would feel its a racial issue as well.

There was a similar unfairness regarding Shockey and TO last season.

And in terms of the "its the children" argument... it was nothing more than toilet humour, I can remember being a child, and from my own experience, I cant think of a 6 year old child you doesnt say or act far worse things when no adults are about.
__________________
"Do not tell lies, and do not do what you hate,
for all things are plain in the sight of Heaven. For nothing
hidden will not become manifest, and nothing covered will remain
without being uncovered."

The Gospel of Thomas
Strange Famous is offline  
Old 01-15-2005, 07:10 PM   #61 (permalink)
Psycho
 
Location: IOWA
Moss is an idiot, besides the fact he can not speak (or use what little intelligence that he has, if any), doesn't care about anything. The Minnesota fans should be allowed to walk past him and hit him in the nuts to the tune of his IQ level, which for him actually helps him out in that so-called fantasy.
drakers is offline  
Old 01-17-2005, 08:33 AM   #62 (permalink)
Devoted
 
Redlemon's Avatar
 
Donor
Location: New England
So much for all the cockiness... hard to be cocky when you are dropping passes. Glad I won't be seeing his face again until next season!
__________________
I can't read your signature. Sorry.
Redlemon is offline  
 

Tags
crowd, moons, moss, randy, scores, touchdown


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 10:02 AM.

Tilted Forum Project

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2
© 2002-2012 Tilted Forum Project

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360