12-22-2004, 03:05 PM | #1 (permalink) | |
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Bertuzzi pleads guilty to assault causing bodily harm in on-ice incident
I'm still not sure if this was a matter for the courts, but I am glad it is almost over.
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12-22-2004, 03:26 PM | #3 (permalink) |
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I'm curious about what the possible sentences might be at this point for him.
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12-22-2004, 03:59 PM | #5 (permalink) | |
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My prediction is no jail time
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12-22-2004, 04:00 PM | #6 (permalink) |
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Bertuzzi isn't going behind bars for that, thats just ridiculous. They are talking about a 1 year conditional sentence I believe and no criminal record.
Sending Bertuzzi to jail for this would be a travesty and make no sense, I've said it before and I'll say it again Bertuzzi didn't break any vertabrae in Moore's neck the 4-5 other guys that jumped on top of him helped that along just fine.
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12-22-2004, 04:13 PM | #9 (permalink) | |
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Still, give community service - I mean REAL community service like coaching a Special Olympics team for a year - and then see where he's at. It's all abd, but hockey and Bertuzzi can recover, the jury is still out on Moore, and he may end up as the biggest loser in the incident. Oh well, life marches on. Peace, Pierre
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12-22-2004, 04:23 PM | #11 (permalink) | |
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And the charities that would benefit from his community service Can't you think of the children!?!? WON'T SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!?!?
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12-22-2004, 04:47 PM | #13 (permalink) | |
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Whatever punishment Bertuzzi gets will be mild compared to the deal Moore got. At least he has now admitted his guilt in the matter. That says something, albeit much, much after the fact.
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12-22-2004, 09:58 PM | #15 (permalink) |
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Coppertop I couldn't agree more. There was no reason for this. How would you like to be skating down the ice, and all of a sudden find yourself face first on the ice. Its one thing if you can see the guy coming and defend yourself, its another to just be blindsided for something that happened weeks before. They do need to make an example of Bertuzzi so this does not happen again. Whether jail time is the answer or not, I don't know. But I do think he needs to make some sort of restitution to Steve Moore, and to the communitity.
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12-22-2004, 11:56 PM | #16 (permalink) | |
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I don't think jail time is the answer here. Todd Bertuzzi isn't a criminal. What he did was wrong and he definitely crossed the line, but it was in the context of a game that encourages aggression, physical play and to a certain degree, fighting. It is a fine line that Bertuzzi crossed and he should definitely be held accountable for his actions, but sending him to jail achieves nothing.
This should shed some light on Bertuzzi's sentence. http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?id=108915 Quote:
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12-23-2004, 09:06 AM | #17 (permalink) | |
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As for what happened weeks before, Moore should have known this was coming, he threw an elbow at Naslunds head and busted him open, with no penalty call I might add. You do that to a star player you can expect to get something in return. But oh well the whole ordeal is almost at a close, and then Bertuzzi can get back to playing hockey, once this pesky strike is over.
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12-23-2004, 03:35 PM | #20 (permalink) |
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I know that what big bert did was disgusting, cowardly...etc but the way they talk about Moore not playing again and how is career was ruined...etc always makes me think about that, is he not just a 4th line winger???? a fringe player at best? not that his skill should matter in this situation, just a thought.
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12-23-2004, 04:45 PM | #21 (permalink) | |
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12-23-2004, 05:19 PM | #22 (permalink) | |
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nice one, i was pointing out the fact that the media was showing moore as being a superstar, without the injury he still might not even make the team. because being paralysed and poor was what i said..... btw moore is neither of those....... |
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12-23-2004, 05:23 PM | #23 (permalink) | |
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12-24-2004, 12:38 PM | #24 (permalink) | |
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Yeah, I think Moore should have expected something, but nobody ever expected this! Bertuzzi crossed a big line not just a fine line. Yes the NHL encourages agression and a bit of fighting but there are unwritten rules to these, if you don't play you don't understand. There has been many a time I wanted to go after someone, but I always do it in the context of the game. I hammer someone into the corner, I might cross check them, give em a slash, etc. but never do you just skate after someone and clock 'em. If you read back in some of the accounts Moore did not even want to be out there at the time. He asked to not play anymore as they had already taken 3-4 runs at him. But Granato did not want his star players out there in case something happened. In some respects the coaches had a hand in this assault as well. I also think his sentence while maybe being right as in no jail time, was a little light overall. C'mon 80 hrs of community service? I've seen shoplifters get more than that! As for Bertuzzi not being able to play in a game in which Moore is in for the next year? Its' not like Moore is going to be playing next year with his injuries, and hell the NHL might not be playing next year with the way the non-negotiations are going!!!
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12-24-2004, 04:08 PM | #25 (permalink) | |
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12-27-2004, 03:42 PM | #26 (permalink) | |
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12-29-2004, 06:47 PM | #27 (permalink) |
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Still Just trying to figure out how you can actually charge someone with a crime for hitting someone in hockey?
I know this was excessive compared to what is normal sportsmanship, but it was an on ice incident in hockey. It's not liek he jumped him going to the locker room or beat the crap outta him while he was on the bench. What's next, assault charges for people in boxing matches? |
01-01-2005, 07:06 PM | #29 (permalink) | |
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So just because it happened during a sporting event makes it ok? So next time Tiger Woods is walking down the fairway, if John Daly runs up behind him and whacks him in the head with his driver, it will be ok because it happened during a sporting event? Come on there are things that everyone knows just are not right. This was one of them. If it happened where they squared up to fight first it would be all together different, but this was a cowardly act, and an assult on an unwilling and unsuspecting participant.
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01-01-2005, 07:55 PM | #30 (permalink) |
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Comparing hockey to golf, I never thought I'd see the day. I've said it all along, the law has no place in hockey, the game has its own rules to govern the game, what happens on the ice stays on the ice. Just my opinion though
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