Jesus Malverde

How can Arizona State move DOWN one spot to 21 after routing Washington State? How can Iowa be ranked ahead of us if we beat them 44-7?

The computers say we play the toughest schedule in the nation, and we're ranked behind some 3 loss teams? Ridiculous. I've come to the realization that the pollsters are idiots.

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Mitzkrieg

i'm suprised it took you that long to realize this, heh. yes the pollsters are tards.

quicksteal

You're right, Arizona State should be in front of Iowa, because they beat Iowa soundly. The fact that they've played 2 top-5 teams helps their strength of schedule greatly, but the fact that they got beat by a combined 72-7 hurts alot. Computers don't take the score into account anymore, or the spread would cancel out the "tough" schedule. ASU is 1-2 against ranked opponents, so they're obviously not that great. So yes, they should be 20, and Iowa 22 or 23, but that's not too big a difference.

Justsomeguy

Nice Post!

Auburn fans are asking the same question about the pollsters I'm sure. Most of the computer rankings are very very wrong. How can Arizona State be #14 in BCS? Notre Dame finished in the top 15 I believe last year with a losing record. And that was with a system I believed to be actually BETTER than this one. Jeff Sagarin ranks California ahead of Auburn. California is a good team. But, who have they beat exactly? Auburn has beat 3 teams in the top 20. Since almost a game early in the same, no one has put up much of a struggle. That isn't true for alot of higher ranked teams. So many things that need to be taken into consideration just isn't there.

Last year there was controversy, but this year if Auburn was to be kept out of the national championship while beating such great teams, then the BCS really does not have a purpose. But, if any of the top 3 teams are kept out, it seems like a great injustice as well. I think Boise State is a decent team, but the fact they are rated so high just saddens me. It would be so much more interesting to see top SEC teams, Pac-10 teams, Big 12 teams, Big 10 teams, and ACC teams just duke it out week in and week out. Watching Auburn play Citadel or USC to run through average teams every week gets so old.

stevo

The computers seem to like ASU, ranking them 7 and ultimately placing them 14th in the BCS. My big beef is Auburn at #3 (and I'm not an auburn fan). They are the best team in the nation right now.

goddfather40

Complaining about how the rankings are outside of the top 10 is fairly pointless. As others suggest, it really doesn't matter if ASU is #20 or #23. As for the top 10, it's another story.

Someone on ESPN suggested that the AP and ESPN rankings shouldn't come out until the 5th or 6th week, kind of like the BCS rankings itself. The reason why Auburn is tied for #2/#3 is the 'inertia' it takes to move from #20 in the preseason to #1. If Auburn was #1, Oklahoma #2, and USC #20 preseason, if would been all reversed. I am an USC fan, I think they are not a clear number 1 by any means. Auburn is maybe a tick above SC and OU right now. Playoff damnit!!!!!!

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Justsomeguy

I know alot of people say that a playoff is the way to go, but I do not like the idea at all. Losing sucks in college football. It can prevent you from being a National Champion. However, the thing I appreciate most about the system is that it generally does not allow teams to have an off-week and survive in the national championship race. It's very interesting to see how other team's losses come in to play. I just wish they incorporated the value of strong wins like in the previous BCS system.

When I actually cared about pro football, I'd watch the Cowboys and occassionally the Broncos to see Elway play. I just find the sport boring when you can sometimes lose half of your games but still be in contention for the superbowl. Not to mention that the 2 best teams do not generally meet in the superbowl.

In college football, I often watch teams I'd never otherwise watch if it were not for the fact it could seriously affect the poll systems. While I firmly believe the BCS needs twinking and the "ideology" in the AP and ESPN polls needs to be re-evaluated, I'm often enthralled by the drama of the polls and the excitement of every game every week.

quicksteal

That was Trev Alberts--you can count on him to say something controversial. While I think he's right, I think there needs to be a preseason poll so that fans can look at who's predicted to be good at the beginning of the year. We can't do our own research on everybody, so it's really hard for us to know what games to be watching. Maybe a preseason poll, then take the next 3 weeks off, and then take the first real poll after week 4 (Auburn would have beaten LSU by then).

stevo

I saw that same segment and I completely agree. I think Auburn is #1 and should play USC in the Orange Bowl. I think USC is better than OU only because of that freshman you have carrying the ball for 250 yds a game. He's good enough to keep USC contending as long as he's there. I really want to see what he is able to do against Auburn's D.

Jesus Malverde

I think all three of those teams are tied for #1. It sounds silly, but how can you separate one from the other two? The only way to settle any of this is a playoff. Who is to say that if Utah goes undefeated, they absoulutely cannot beat Auburn, USC or OU? There should be some sort of seedings like in basketball, but obviously not with 64 teams.

Another thing: why did they get rid of quality wins this year? That seemed like a good idea, but they did away with it and I don't even know why.

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Justsomeguy

I understand people want to see a clear winner. I do too. But, I would rather not have one than to compromise a significant amount of excitement of college football. I hate Saban's idea of bowl+one as well, but what can you really expect from him? The BCS needs to just get it right. It is their responsibility. They need to stop putting out such a shitty system and put out one that actually works. After initially looking at the formula for this year, I wondered what the hell they were thinking. Now, I think it's obvious about it's potential to once again be shitty.

A start is to have the best teams in the nation play each other every year to knock teams like Boise State out of existence. Take Louisiana Monroe and Kent State off of schedules and replace them with USC, Auburn, California, Georgia, FSU, Michigan, Oklahoma, Texas, etc. Why is there around 120 teams in NCAA division 1-a again? Over half the teams should not be there, but they are because of the factor of money. Giving Boise State and Utah real schedules would put to rest all of that controversy. If they win, they belong. If the lose, then everyone is right.

It's good in thought, but it's flawed in my opinion. LSU lost Quality points when they beat a top 10 team twice. Knocking a team out of the top 10 because they lost late in the season kind of defeats the whole purpose

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give ASU their props