Dave Wannstedt Resigns!!!! - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

SAM821 · 11-08-2004, 08:34 PM

Its being reported here in miami, It should hit national headlines within the next few hours. Dave is supposed to be announcing it tomorrow morning.

Hopefully this is the beginning of some better things to come for the Dolphins. We shall see...

djtestudo · 11-08-2004, 09:23 PM

Ho-ly shit.

Not that it matters for this year, but I think this will be the best thing in the long run.

djtestudo · 11-08-2004, 09:25 PM

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/10132458.htm?1c

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Dolphins' Wannstedt to resign

BY ARMANDO SALGUERO
asalguero@herald.com

Dave Wannstedt is expected to resign today, ending a five-season tenure as the Dolphins head coach, according to club sources.

Defensive coordinator Jim Bates will be named the interim head coach during an afternoon news conference at the team's Davie training facility.

Wannstedt ends his coaching tenure in Miami with a 42-31 record. His overall NFL coaching record stands at 82-89.

Bates is a former head coach for the USFL San Antonio Gunslingers. He coached that team in 1985 and has been an NFL assistant since 1991.

It is unclear whether Wannstedt was forced to resign. He indicated no such intention during a Monday afternoon news conference and Sunday evening scoffed at the suggestion that he would do such a thing.

At the same news conference Monday afternoon, Wannstedt deflected questions about his future with the Dolphins but suggested his tenure would be secure through the end of the season.

An NFL source said Dolphins owner Wayne Huizenga spoke with Wannstedt late Monday afternoon. After that meeting, Wannstedt agreed to resign. It is unclear weather Wannstedt will collect the remaining two years of his contract.

The Dolphins will play their first game under Bates on Nov. 21 at the Seattle Seahawks.

guthmund · 11-08-2004, 09:42 PM

Hasn't this been inevitable for the last few years?

I've never really thought that much of him, as a coach that is, and it seems I'm not alone.

For all the Dolphin fans here, I have to ask...

Is Wannstedt leaving a good thing? More importantly, who would you like to see replace him?

Spartak · 11-08-2004, 09:57 PM

Rumours are Spurrier will replace him.

So ...

Glory's Sun · 11-09-2004, 06:35 AM

Finally.. it's been a long 5 years to say the least.

I can't see Spurrier coaching the phins. If he goes anywhere it will be back to UF.

Jadedfox · 11-09-2004, 06:41 AM

As a Bears fan I can only say...it's about damn time. The man has no business coaching in the NFL.

--jaded

Daoust · 11-09-2004, 06:47 AM

Miami is embarrasing this year, but it's not the coach's fault. It almost never is.

but anyway...

How about Pittsburgh??? For how long has Cowthers head been on the block and this year he finally pulls some magic out! Unbelievable. Anyone who doubted if the Steelers were for real can't doubt it now after the last two weeks. Two incredible and convincing wins... Who is this Roethsberger (sp?) A genius. I'd love to see Pitts go all the way...

dylanmarsh · 11-09-2004, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Spartak

Rumours are Spurrier will replace him.

So ...

Spurrier would be a definite downgrade from Dave and that's saying a lot. The Fins are gonna be screwed for the next couple years. With David Boston and possibly Junkie Williams returning next year, the Dolphins definitely don't have the leadership to create a team environment. I'm just waiting for them to sign Ryan Leaf to complete the mediocrity circle.

djtestudo · 11-09-2004, 10:12 AM

Here's an interesting scenario.

The Dolphins don't have a running game now.

In the offseason they sign Drew Brees. They have two very good receivers now in Booker and Chambers, plus will be getting Boston back.

They hire Spurrier as coach. He installs the Fun 'n' Gun there.

Might be interesting, if unlikely to happen.

Wouldn't be suprised to see Spurrier coaching there anyway, though.

dylanmarsh · 11-09-2004, 10:41 AM

I think the Dolphins would have a better chance at getting Rivers off of the Chargers than the Chargers letting Brees go in free agency after this season. I could see the Fins signing Eddie George and then trading Junkie to the Cowboys.

djtestudo · 11-09-2004, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by dylanmarsh

I think the Dolphins would have a better chance at getting Rivers off of the Chargers than the Chargers letting Brees go in free agency after this season. I could see the Fins signing Eddie George and then trading Junkie to the Cowboys.

See: Kitna, Jon.

pan6467 · 11-09-2004, 12:49 PM

Why can't Butch Davis resign?????? Get Policy back and try to find a way to get Bernie Kosar on the staff, get Walsh, Schottenheimer, Shula and Belichick as head coaches/ advisors.

They'd turn Cleveland around. Until Cleveland gets rid of Davis and shakes the NFL world up by doing drastic moves, the Brownies will forever be in the basement, pointing fingers and having 7 yard punts.

djtestudo · 11-09-2004, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by pan6467

Why can't Butch Davis resign?????? Get Policy back and try to find a way to get Bernie Kosar on the staff, get Walsh, Schottenheimer, Shula and Belichick as head coaches/ advisors.

They'd turn Cleveland around. Until Cleveland gets rid of Davis and shakes the NFL world up by doing drastic moves, the Brownies will forever be in the basement, pointing fingers and having 7 yard punts.

Can you imagine the egos that would explode if you had all those guys trying to "advise". They do need a new head coach and GM though. I think the names Couch, Brown, Warren, and Green should be enough to figure that out.

BTW...thanks for the win after we gave you a free touchdown and kicked field goals for three quarters

pan6467 · 11-09-2004, 01:05 PM

Hell, any team that punts for 7 yards deserves to be in pee-wee flag football not the NFL.

Yeah I think a combination of Walsh, Schottenheimer, Shula and Belichick would be an egomaniacal disaster. But, they know how to win.... I'd be happy with just one of them.

SAM821 · 11-09-2004, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by guthmund

For all the Dolphin fans here, I have to ask...

Is Wannstedt leaving a good thing? More importantly, who would you like to see replace him?

As a dolphin fan, I will say, He is a nice guy, (from what I hear) a "player's coach" but, he doesnt have what it takes to coach at this level. He would be a GREAT college coach, and most likely will almost definitly get a job as a head coach next season. But in a huge market like miami, Its unacceptable, Hence most fans hatred for him.

Me, Im happy there is a change, and Im looking foward to better things!

Go Phins!

LIMilf · 11-10-2004, 05:24 AM

Miami should of known that this was gonna happen. Wannstedt ran the great Chicago Bears into the ground, and he has done the same thing for the Miami Dolphins. He just should of stayed a Defenseive Coordinator. I hope this guy doesn't get another head coaching job again.

pan6467 · 11-10-2004, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by LIMilf

Miami should of known that this was gonna happen. Wannstedt ran the great Chicago Bears into the ground, and he has done the same thing for the Miami Dolphins. He just should of stayed a Defenseive Coordinator. I hope this guy doesn't get another head coaching job again.

Cleveland maybe looking for a coaching never was after this season. Perhaps the great Randy Lerner will hire Wannstedt and claim he was the guy the team has always wanted and needed.

Aw well at least my Bengals are going to do better than the Clowns in Cleveland.

A 7 yard punt......... 7 yards.....

toverfie · 11-10-2004, 10:19 AM

This failure couldn't have happened to a nicer guy....He is one smug sonofabitch that deserves every professional failure that comes his way....Several years ago (as the coach of the Bears) on a Monday or Sunday night game, he was asked by the interviewer what steps he could take to make his team better....His reply was that perhaps joining the AFC East would make the most difference....yeah, he's an asshole and I'm a Bills fan that holds a little grudge.....One should note that the year he made the statement, I believe 3 or 4 teams from the AFC East made the playoffs....When DW went to the dolphags, it could have only served to make me despise him more since I'm sure you are all aware that the longest consecutive winning streak by one team over another is dolphins over bills 20 straight wins in the 70's....My two favorite teams.....The Bills and whoever is playing the dolphins

Shpoop · 11-10-2004, 03:06 PM

uhh 3 or 4 teams making the playoffs from AFC East? that means either 3 wildcard teams made it (impossible) or both wildcard teams were from the same conference (i would guess also impossible due to number of in-conference games)...so check your stats

i can make no statement on the mans character myself, but i hear he is an incredible gentleman off the field. As a coach, i think he blows. He inhereted a championship caliber team from Jimmy Johnson, and drove it into the ground. As for replacements, im not sure. Spurrier has taken his hat out of the ring, and thank god. Not cut out for NFL. Im thinking maybe the pats defensive coordinater, romeo cromell, would be good

Harry Cox · 11-10-2004, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jadedfox

As a Bears fan I can only say...it's about damn time. The man has no business coaching in the NFL.

--jaded

I'll second that. That SOB ran the Bears organization into the ground. It was his decision to trade a #8 overall pick for Rick FUCKING Mirer. I warned Dolphins fans that this was coming, but they didn't believe me. He is a moron.

whiplash13 · 11-10-2004, 08:49 PM

He is a great defensive coach but sucks at personel decisions. I say the will get Drew Brees and draft a RB with their top 5 pick. Brees throwing to Chambers, Boston, Booker and McMichael should be interesting as long as they can give Brees some time and get some sort of a running game going. Travis Henry would be a nice pick up as well

Jimellow · 11-10-2004, 09:01 PM

The Dolphins would have sucked this year, regardless of their coach. And they will likely suck next year also.

I don't know much about Dave's coaching ability, but I do know that the Dolphins are lacking talent-wise, and until they take serious steps to improve, it isn't going to matter who's coaching them. They will still be a losing team.

toverfie · 11-11-2004, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Shpoop

uhh 3 or 4 teams making the playoffs from AFC East? that means either 3 wildcard teams made it (impossible) or both wildcard teams were from the same conference (i would guess also impossible due to number of in-conference games)...so check your stats

i can make no statement on the mans character myself, but i hear he is an incredible gentleman off the field. As a coach, i think he blows. He inhereted a championship caliber team from Jimmy Johnson, and drove it into the ground. As for replacements, im not sure. Spurrier has taken his hat out of the ring, and thank god. Not cut out for NFL. Im thinking maybe the pats defensive coordinater, romeo cromell, would be good

1998 Playoff results:
WildCard
Sat Jan 2 Miami 24 Buffalo 17
Sun Jan 3 Jaguars 25 Patriots 10
Divisional
Sat Jan 9 Denver 38 Miami 3
Sun Jan10 New York Jets 34 Jacksonville 24....so check your stats? Guess you should do that before letting me know my own faults huh?

runtuff · 11-11-2004, 10:16 AM

Hopefuly for the Dolphins this will allow them to start rebuilding, with or without Williams as a running back. They are better off without them. I just hope they figure that out.

Cader · 11-11-2004, 11:46 AM

It's amazing they put up with him for this long really. The real intersting thing will certainly be who they bring in. There has been a lot of belief that Spurrier would be lining up for it since he has veto'd a return to UF. I'd almost feel worse for my friends who are Fin fans.

And I think a lot of teams will be in the running for Drew Brees. Although it makes no sense, you can bet he will be the one to go this offseason. The Chargers put too much money and publicity in to Rivers. I actually like Brees and hope he gets to go somewhere that he can thrive and be valued. It must suck to be playing so well and knowing that everyone is just waiting for you to throw a few picks to justify replacing you with the new poster child.

Shpoop · 11-11-2004, 03:20 PM

yea my bad, i forgot that it was different back then...no AFC north so there was 5 teams per division

anyways no more of htis threadjacking

renaldorick · 11-14-2004, 08:24 AM

Losing ricky will had a lot to do with that. youd think that if a guy, central to that team's offense knew he was gonna retire, youd tell your team early in the offseason, but he waits like 2 weeks before the season starts. The fish had always had trouble scoring, but take away a guy who rushed for 1200 yards in each of the last 2 seasons, and you are gonna be in trouble.

stevo · 11-15-2004, 01:26 PM

I'm glad to see wannie go. He's run that team into the ground, just as he did to the bears. Hopefully spurrier won't come down south, if he does end up coaching my 'fins I'll have a lot of soul searching to do before I sit down and watch a game with that dockers wearing, visor-fag on the sideline.

I think Phil Rivers is the best qb since Joe Montana. I know thats saying a lot and I'll probably get some guff for that, but you wait and see. that kid is awesome. If he gets to Miami it'll be the best day ever.

11-08-2004, 08:34 PM	#1 (permalink)
SAM821 Surviving Hurricanes Location: Miami, Florida	Dave Wannstedt Resigns!!!! Its being reported here in miami, It should hit national headlines within the next few hours. Dave is supposed to be announcing it tomorrow morning. Hopefully this is the beginning of some better things to come for the Dolphins. We shall see...

11-08-2004, 09:23 PM	#2 (permalink)
djtestudo Baltimoron Location: Beeeeeautiful Bel Air, MD	Ho-ly shit. Not that it matters for this year, but I think this will be the best thing in the long run. __________________ "Final thought: I just rented Michael Moore's Bowling for Columbine. Frankly, it was the worst sports movie I've ever seen." --Peter Schmuck, The (Baltimore) Sun

11-08-2004, 09:42 PM	#4 (permalink)
guthmund big damn hero	Hasn't this been inevitable for the last few years? I've never really thought that much of him, as a coach that is, and it seems I'm not alone. For all the Dolphin fans here, I have to ask... Is Wannstedt leaving a good thing? More importantly, who would you like to see replace him? __________________ No signature. None. Seriously.

11-08-2004, 09:57 PM	#5 (permalink)
Spartak Bang bang Location: New Zealand	Rumours are Spurrier will replace him. So ... __________________ I can read your mind... looking at you... I can read your mind...

11-09-2004, 06:41 AM	#7 (permalink)
Jadedfox Egocentric Location: World of Warcraft	As a Bears fan I can only say...it's about damn time. The man has no business coaching in the NFL. --jaded __________________ There is no fucking you, there is only me.

11-09-2004, 06:35 AM	#6 (permalink)
Glory's Sun Registered User	Finally.. it's been a long 5 years to say the least. I can't see Spurrier coaching the phins. If he goes anywhere it will be back to UF.

11-09-2004, 06:47 AM	#8 (permalink)
Daoust "I'm sorry. What was the question?" Location: Paradise Regained	Miami is embarrasing this year, but it's not the coach's fault. It almost never is. but anyway... How about Pittsburgh??? For how long has Cowthers head been on the block and this year he finally pulls some magic out! Unbelievable. Anyone who doubted if the Steelers were for real can't doubt it now after the last two weeks. Two incredible and convincing wins... Who is this Roethsberger (sp?) A genius. I'd love to see Pitts go all the way... __________________ I have faith in a few things - divinity and grace But even when I'm on my knees I know the devil preys

11-09-2004, 10:12 AM	#10 (permalink)
djtestudo Baltimoron Location: Beeeeeautiful Bel Air, MD	Here's an interesting scenario. The Dolphins don't have a running game now. In the offseason they sign Drew Brees. They have two very good receivers now in Booker and Chambers, plus will be getting Boston back. They hire Spurrier as coach. He installs the Fun 'n' Gun there. Might be interesting, if unlikely to happen. Wouldn't be suprised to see Spurrier coaching there anyway, though. __________________ "Final thought: I just rented Michael Moore's Bowling for Columbine. Frankly, it was the worst sports movie I've ever seen." --Peter Schmuck, The (Baltimore) Sun

11-09-2004, 10:41 AM	#11 (permalink)
dylanmarsh Sleepy Head	I think the Dolphins would have a better chance at getting Rivers off of the Chargers than the Chargers letting Brees go in free agency after this season. I could see the Fins signing Eddie George and then trading Junkie to the Cowboys.

11-09-2004, 12:49 PM	#13 (permalink)
pan6467 Lennonite Priest Location: Mansfield, Ohio USA	Why can't Butch Davis resign?????? Get Policy back and try to find a way to get Bernie Kosar on the staff, get Walsh, Schottenheimer, Shula and Belichick as head coaches/ advisors. They'd turn Cleveland around. Until Cleveland gets rid of Davis and shakes the NFL world up by doing drastic moves, the Brownies will forever be in the basement, pointing fingers and having 7 yard punts. __________________ I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"

11-09-2004, 01:05 PM	#15 (permalink)
pan6467 Lennonite Priest Location: Mansfield, Ohio USA	Hell, any team that punts for 7 yards deserves to be in pee-wee flag football not the NFL. Yeah I think a combination of Walsh, Schottenheimer, Shula and Belichick would be an egomaniacal disaster. But, they know how to win.... I'd be happy with just one of them. __________________ I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"

11-10-2004, 05:24 AM	#17 (permalink)
LIMilf Crazy	Miami should of known that this was gonna happen. Wannstedt ran the great Chicago Bears into the ground, and he has done the same thing for the Miami Dolphins. He just should of stayed a Defenseive Coordinator. I hope this guy doesn't get another head coaching job again. __________________ My goal is to be rookie of the year...

11-10-2004, 10:19 AM	#19 (permalink)
toverfie Upright	This failure couldn't have happened to a nicer guy....He is one smug sonofabitch that deserves every professional failure that comes his way....Several years ago (as the coach of the Bears) on a Monday or Sunday night game, he was asked by the interviewer what steps he could take to make his team better....His reply was that perhaps joining the AFC East would make the most difference....yeah, he's an asshole and I'm a Bills fan that holds a little grudge.....One should note that the year he made the statement, I believe 3 or 4 teams from the AFC East made the playoffs....When DW went to the dolphags, it could have only served to make me despise him more since I'm sure you are all aware that the longest consecutive winning streak by one team over another is dolphins over bills 20 straight wins in the 70's....My two favorite teams.....The Bills and whoever is playing the dolphins

11-10-2004, 03:06 PM	#20 (permalink)
Shpoop Curious Location: NJ (but just for college)	uhh 3 or 4 teams making the playoffs from AFC East? that means either 3 wildcard teams made it (impossible) or both wildcard teams were from the same conference (i would guess also impossible due to number of in-conference games)...so check your stats i can make no statement on the mans character myself, but i hear he is an incredible gentleman off the field. As a coach, i think he blows. He inhereted a championship caliber team from Jimmy Johnson, and drove it into the ground. As for replacements, im not sure. Spurrier has taken his hat out of the ring, and thank god. Not cut out for NFL. Im thinking maybe the pats defensive coordinater, romeo cromell, would be good

11-10-2004, 08:49 PM	#22 (permalink)
whiplash13 Tilted	He is a great defensive coach but sucks at personel decisions. I say the will get Drew Brees and draft a RB with their top 5 pick. Brees throwing to Chambers, Boston, Booker and McMichael should be interesting as long as they can give Brees some time and get some sort of a running game going. Travis Henry would be a nice pick up as well

11-10-2004, 09:01 PM	#23 (permalink)
Jimellow Junkie	The Dolphins would have sucked this year, regardless of their coach. And they will likely suck next year also. I don't know much about Dave's coaching ability, but I do know that the Dolphins are lacking talent-wise, and until they take serious steps to improve, it isn't going to matter who's coaching them. They will still be a losing team.

11-11-2004, 10:16 AM	#25 (permalink)
runtuff Crazy	Hopefuly for the Dolphins this will allow them to start rebuilding, with or without Williams as a running back. They are better off without them. I just hope they figure that out.

11-11-2004, 11:46 AM	#26 (permalink)
Cader Upright Location: Indiana	It's amazing they put up with him for this long really. The real intersting thing will certainly be who they bring in. There has been a lot of belief that Spurrier would be lining up for it since he has veto'd a return to UF. I'd almost feel worse for my friends who are Fin fans. And I think a lot of teams will be in the running for Drew Brees. Although it makes no sense, you can bet he will be the one to go this offseason. The Chargers put too much money and publicity in to Rivers. I actually like Brees and hope he gets to go somewhere that he can thrive and be valued. It must suck to be playing so well and knowing that everyone is just waiting for you to throw a few picks to justify replacing you with the new poster child. __________________ "Damn it! I want pancakes! God! You people understand every language except English. Yo quiero pancakes. Donnez-moi pancakes. Click-click-bloody click pancakes! "

11-11-2004, 03:20 PM	#27 (permalink)
Shpoop Curious Location: NJ (but just for college)	yea my bad, i forgot that it was different back then...no AFC north so there was 5 teams per division anyways no more of htis threadjacking

11-14-2004, 08:24 AM	#28 (permalink)
renaldorick Upright	Losing ricky will had a lot to do with that. youd think that if a guy, central to that team's offense knew he was gonna retire, youd tell your team early in the offseason, but he waits like 2 weeks before the season starts. The fish had always had trouble scoring, but take away a guy who rushed for 1200 yards in each of the last 2 seasons, and you are gonna be in trouble.

11-15-2004, 01:26 PM	#29 (permalink)
stevo Rail Baron Location: Tallyfla	I'm glad to see wannie go. He's run that team into the ground, just as he did to the bears. Hopefully spurrier won't come down south, if he does end up coaching my 'fins I'll have a lot of soul searching to do before I sit down and watch a game with that dockers wearing, visor-fag on the sideline. I think Phil Rivers is the best qb since Joe Montana. I know thats saying a lot and I'll probably get some guff for that, but you wait and see. that kid is awesome. If he gets to Miami it'll be the best day ever.