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MikeyChalupa · 10-01-2004, 07:11 AM

Sep 4 Duke Won 27-12
Sep 11 Northeastern Won 28-24
Sep 18 @Tulsa Won 29-0
Sep 25 Vanderbilt Won 29-26
Sep 30 @Air Force Won 24-21
Oct 16 @Notre Dame
Oct 23 Rice
Oct 30 Delaware
Nov 6 @Tulane
Nov 20 Rutgers
Dec 4 Army

Has anyone noticed they're 5-0? They came back to beat Air Force last night in a crucial game on a late field goal. A win against Army on Dec. 4 gets us our second Commander in Chief's Trophy, only the third in the last 22 years. If that's the only other win they get this season, it's a complete success. I know Annapolis is not a football factory, and they don't really have all that difficult a schedule, but for Navy, who is usually the worst of the three I-A service schools, and an easy win for most real teams, last season and this one represent a shift in the service school balance of power away from Air Force (2-3), and I for one am glad to be finally on the winning side.

GO NAVY! BEAT ARMY!

-Mikey

portieri · 10-01-2004, 11:10 AM

Hey Mikey:

I can tell you that the CIC trophy never graced the buildings along the severn when I was there. I happened to be back there this summer for some BGO training, and it was prominently displayed in the rotunda of Mother B. It sent chills up and down my spine.

I'm hoping that 16 days to prepare for the Irish will give us an edge up at the Meadowlands.

Are you an alum? I'm '87

radioguy · 10-02-2004, 10:20 AM

11-0???

if they can get by the irish, the schedule looks pretty good. wouldn't it be great if it was the naval academy that broke into one of the bcs bowls? BUST IT NAVY!!!

irateplatypus · 10-02-2004, 11:03 AM

they'll never make it to the BCS with their poor strength of schedule... but gosh, what a turnaround from their very recent past. i was disappointed to see them beat Air Force, but at least AF lost to a quality navy squad and didn't just blow it. props to navy for shaking up the CIC trophy picture for a change and for doing so well so far.

this'll be just one more reason for me to cheer against notre dame.

Jesus Malverde · 10-02-2004, 05:14 PM

Ahh, but you forget that "Schedule Strength" has been eliminated this year, my friend. With West Virginia losing today, Navy at a theoretical 11-0 has a decent chance of being a BCS buster if Fresno State falls late in the season. I like Navy's offense, that QB of theirs is a stud. Did I mention Kyle Eckel? What a badass, old school player. I didn't follow Navy before this year, but after seeing them beat AF, they are my cinderella pick for a BCS bowl game.

ledhead · 10-02-2004, 05:37 PM

Even though I am in the air force at and i do root for the AFA i would love to see Navy a BCS bowl. You know give the the military some pride and dignity saying we can still play this game.

radioguy · 10-02-2004, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesus Malverde

if Fresno State falls late in the season.

we don't have to wait for later in the season, somehow they decided to lose to la tech!! NAVY is gonna bust some stuff up......if they can survive the irish and remain undefeated.

echo5delta · 10-06-2004, 07:13 PM

Having grown up in Colorado Springs, Air Force was really my backyard hometown team as a kid (since I never, ever liked the Broncos). Fisher DeBerry and the Falcons had plenty of opportunity - even on moderate to really tough sechedules - to push beyond the Liberty Bowl, maybe even finish a season in the top 5 or 10. Having to recruit for the Academy overall (and not just the football program itself) hurts them a lot, though - just like any other Academy team. Endlessly preaching the gospel of a wishbone offense ain't exactly helping, either - surely they could give that a rest for ONE SEASON, maybe?

Anyway, I've since seen the light, and that has nothing to do with the fact that the Secretary of the Navy technically signs my paycheck. Since my dad was in the Army for so long it makes my holiday season even more cheery when I can make that phone call in December and just LAUGH at the final score. Doing that three years on the trot would be awesome... doing it at the end of a 9-2, 10-1, 11-0 season couldn't be topped for the rest of my sports-watching days.

Well, almost.

sirsnekcip · 10-15-2004, 08:36 PM

this reminds me of a really moving article i read at yahoo sports about navy; i had no idea of the tremendous season they were having, and after reading this article i know i'm gonna be rooting for them throughout the rest of the season.

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news;_...yhoo&type=lgns

MikeyChalupa · 10-16-2004, 06:22 AM

Awesome article! Here it is:

Quote:

In the Navy

by Dan Wetzel, Yahoo! Sports
October 15, 2004

The football team of the United States Naval Academy – "honor, courage, commitment" – is 5-0.

The football team that represents our country, that is stocked with the best and brightest students , that has players who post-grad will deploy not to the NFL but to defend the nation's values, is undefeated.

Saturday, the Midshipmen play Notre Dame in New Jersey and will try to snap a stubborn 40-year losing streak to the Irish.

No offense to Notre Dame, but you'd have to be a hydrophobe not to root for Navy.

Either that or a Bowl Championship Series executive.

The system set up by the corrupt cartel who controls the money and championship process of college football says a place such as Navy isn't representative of college football at its biggest and best.

In fact Navy represents everything college athletics is supposed to be. The players are bright, determined students. The academic work load and demands of cadet life are rigorous. To gain admission they need nomination from a member of Congress, not a payout from a local booster.

They all have signed on for a tour of duty in our military, which makes playing college football a diversion, an honor to represent their fellow classmates, not a semi-pro internship that could lead to greater riches.

The men and women at our military academies are amazing. Especially now, in this time of war, every last one of us should be thankful we have them.

The crazy pipe dream here is that if Navy can get past the Irish, a schedule opens up that makes a run at 11-0 a real possibility. That's how good the Midshipmen have gotten under exceptional third-year coach Paul Johnson.

This would make for a wonderful story – except to the BCS folks, mainly the big conference commissioners, who would be left trying to explain how an unbeaten Navy team is worthy of nothing more than the Weed Eater Bowl. Or tell us why the perfect Midshipmen could never, ever be considered to play for a national title, let alone in one of those $13 million-plus BCS bowls.

Now that would be a squirm-fest to watch.

If you hate the un-American way in which college football runs itself, if you long for playoffs that would give the little guy at least a chance (a la college hoops), if you are just sick of watching "amateur" athletics abused by profiteers, then you have to become a situational anarchist here.

Power only will be ceded, the system only will topple, if enough embarrassing, indefensible scenarios force it.

Navy could strike a real blow.

Sure Utah and Boise State and Southern Mississippi still could go unbeaten and force the BCS to practice exclusion, but that is only going to do so much. The BCS will screw Utah without blinking an eye.

I want to see them try it with the Midshipmen.

The party line with the BCS is that schools such as Navy, because they don't play in one of six "major" conferences (or in Navy's case any conference), can't be considered big-time because they aren't "committed" enough to college football.

And it is true. Not once has Coach Johnson gone to a fraternity house and threatened undergraduates. When recruiting players Navy doesn't fix grades or even supply prostitutes. Undeclared is not a recognized major. Graduation rates are not in the teens.

Committed? Heck, Navy doesn't even have one committed felon on the roster.

When it comes to commitment, you can't match the SEC and Big Ten, which since 1990 have had its members convicted 32 different times for major NCAA infractions. You know, booster payouts, major academic fraud, point shaving.

And those leagues think letting Navy play in a BCS game would make a mockery of the sport?

Common sense says Navy, with its so-so schedule and good but hardly great team, isn't one of the top six or eight squads in the country. That's understood. But common sense would never run a sport this way.

If Navy could run the table, it would be a most worthy BCS team, a feel-good national phenomenon.

And yet there are 13 million reasons why it never, ever will get invited to a major bowl.

So the BCS suits can have their definition of big-time college football. And I can have mine.

I'll take the program and the players who compete with so much honor. They can have the arrogant, morally bankrupt and money-addicted system that doesn't know the meaning of the word.

Dan Wetzel is Yahoo! Sports' national columnist. Send him a question or comment for potential use in a future column or webcast.

GO NAVY!

-Mikey

MikeyChalupa · 10-16-2004, 01:12 PM

Well the impossible dream is over. Notre Dame won, 27-9. I'll take a 10-1 season from Navy though!

GO NAVY! BEAT ARMY!

-Mikey

CheesePizzaMan · 10-16-2004, 02:28 PM

Navy looked outclassed today. I don't know if ND is even that good.

stevo · 10-16-2004, 08:44 PM

I've been rooting for Navy all season. I thought they might pull it out. My brother is a firstie (senior) this year and he's been keeping me excited. Oh well, I guess 10-1 will have to do.

10-01-2004, 07:11 AM	#1 (permalink)
MikeyChalupa Squid Location: USS George Washington	Navy Football Sep 4 Duke Won 27-12 Sep 11 Northeastern Won 28-24 Sep 18 @Tulsa Won 29-0 Sep 25 Vanderbilt Won 29-26 Sep 30 @Air Force Won 24-21 Oct 16 @Notre Dame Oct 23 Rice Oct 30 Delaware Nov 6 @Tulane Nov 20 Rutgers Dec 4 Army Has anyone noticed they're 5-0? They came back to beat Air Force last night in a crucial game on a late field goal. A win against Army on Dec. 4 gets us our second Commander in Chief's Trophy, only the third in the last 22 years. If that's the only other win they get this season, it's a complete success. I know Annapolis is not a football factory, and they don't really have all that difficult a schedule, but for Navy, who is usually the worst of the three I-A service schools, and an easy win for most real teams, last season and this one represent a shift in the service school balance of power away from Air Force (2-3), and I for one am glad to be finally on the winning side. GO NAVY! BEAT ARMY! -Mikey

10-02-2004, 11:03 AM	#4 (permalink)
irateplatypus can't help but laugh Location: dar al-harb	they'll never make it to the BCS with their poor strength of schedule... but gosh, what a turnaround from their very recent past. i was disappointed to see them beat Air Force, but at least AF lost to a quality navy squad and didn't just blow it. props to navy for shaking up the CIC trophy picture for a change and for doing so well so far. this'll be just one more reason for me to cheer against notre dame. __________________ If you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance for survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves. ~ Winston Churchill

10-02-2004, 05:14 PM	#5 (permalink)
Jesus Malverde Psycho Location: Sinaloa, Mexico	Ahh, but you forget that "Schedule Strength" has been eliminated this year, my friend. With West Virginia losing today, Navy at a theoretical 11-0 has a decent chance of being a BCS buster if Fresno State falls late in the season. I like Navy's offense, that QB of theirs is a stud. Did I mention Kyle Eckel? What a badass, old school player. I didn't follow Navy before this year, but after seeing them beat AF, they are my cinderella pick for a BCS bowl game. __________________ ...I'm that cat by the bar toasting to the good life...

10-02-2004, 05:37 PM	#6 (permalink)
ledhead Crazy Location: So. Cal	Even though I am in the air force at and i do root for the AFA i would love to see Navy a BCS bowl. You know give the the military some pride and dignity saying we can still play this game. __________________ "If you can count the number of cylinders on one hand....it is NOT a race car." big bubba "Diplomacy is the art of letting someone else have your way"

10-06-2004, 07:13 PM	#8 (permalink)
echo5delta Crazy Location: Swamp Lagoon, North Cackalacky	Having grown up in Colorado Springs, Air Force was really my backyard hometown team as a kid (since I never, ever liked the Broncos). Fisher DeBerry and the Falcons had plenty of opportunity - even on moderate to really tough sechedules - to push beyond the Liberty Bowl, maybe even finish a season in the top 5 or 10. Having to recruit for the Academy overall (and not just the football program itself) hurts them a lot, though - just like any other Academy team. Endlessly preaching the gospel of a wishbone offense ain't exactly helping, either - surely they could give that a rest for ONE SEASON, maybe? Anyway, I've since seen the light, and that has nothing to do with the fact that the Secretary of the Navy technically signs my paycheck. Since my dad was in the Army for so long it makes my holiday season even more cheery when I can make that phone call in December and just LAUGH at the final score. Doing that three years on the trot would be awesome... doing it at the end of a 9-2, 10-1, 11-0 season couldn't be topped for the rest of my sports-watching days. Well, almost. __________________ "Peace" is when nobody's shooting. A "Just Peace" is when we get what we want. - Bill Mauldin Last edited by echo5delta; 10-06-2004 at 07:15 PM..

10-01-2004, 11:10 AM	#2 (permalink)
portieri Tilted	Hey Mikey: I can tell you that the CIC trophy never graced the buildings along the severn when I was there. I happened to be back there this summer for some BGO training, and it was prominently displayed in the rotunda of Mother B. It sent chills up and down my spine. I'm hoping that 16 days to prepare for the Irish will give us an edge up at the Meadowlands. Are you an alum? I'm '87

10-02-2004, 10:20 AM	#3 (permalink)
radioguy Registered User Location: Texas	11-0??? if they can get by the irish, the schedule looks pretty good. wouldn't it be great if it was the naval academy that broke into one of the bcs bowls? BUST IT NAVY!!!

10-15-2004, 08:36 PM	#9 (permalink)
sirsnekcip Upright	this reminds me of a really moving article i read at yahoo sports about navy; i had no idea of the tremendous season they were having, and after reading this article i know i'm gonna be rooting for them throughout the rest of the season. http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news;_...yhoo&type=lgns

10-16-2004, 01:12 PM	#11 (permalink)
MikeyChalupa Squid Location: USS George Washington	Well the impossible dream is over. Notre Dame won, 27-9. I'll take a 10-1 season from Navy though! GO NAVY! BEAT ARMY! -Mikey Last edited by MikeyChalupa; 10-16-2004 at 03:22 PM..

10-16-2004, 02:28 PM	#12 (permalink)
CheesePizzaMan Upright Location: 2 Blocks from the Beach, California	Navy looked outclassed today. I don't know if ND is even that good.

10-16-2004, 08:44 PM	#13 (permalink)
stevo Rail Baron Location: Tallyfla	I've been rooting for Navy all season. I thought they might pull it out. My brother is a firstie (senior) this year and he's been keeping me excited. Oh well, I guess 10-1 will have to do.