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Spartak · 03-04-2004, 12:50 PM

Off ESPN.com http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1750991

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By John Clayton
ESPN.com

The 49ers traded Terrell Owens to the Ravens on Thursday for a second-round choice in the 2004 draft, the 51st selection overall.

49ers general manager Terry Donahue had vowed Tuesday to make a trade within 72 hours, and he lived up to his word. Calls were made to the Cleveland Browns, New York Jets, Ravens, Eagles and several others. The Jets and Browns warmed up to the idea, but the Ravens moved the quickest, giving up their second-rounder.

The Ravens have scheduled a news conference for later Thursday to discuss the trade.

The Ravens won't draft until the third round in April because they used their first-rounder to move up and acquire quarterback Kyle Boller in last year's draft. But in making this trade, they now have a Pro Bowl receiver to help their young quarterback grow.

All along, the 49ers believed Owens would have ended up in Baltimore. During the Ravens playoff drive, several 49ers front office people kept calling the Ravens, telling them that they thought Baltimore would be the logical choice. Ravens middle linebacker Ray Lewis tried to recruit Owens at the Pro Bowl.

Owens missed out on free agency when he didn't notify the 49ers by Feb. 21 to void the final three years of his contract. Owens had a clause in his contract to void the contract by the first week in March but a collective bargaining override -- which was created in 2001 -- made the date around Feb. 21.

David Joseph, Owens' agent, did know about the change of date. The Ravens pick up the final three years of his contract valued at around $17 million.

Good move for the Ravens, they finally have a passing threat, while Ray Lew will probably keep TO's ego in check. While a 2nd round pick for the Niners is better than a 3rd round pick they would have gotten if TO had remembered to become a FA.

Doctor_Max · 03-04-2004, 12:52 PM

For a 2nd? Are you kidding me? Wow, so many teams missed out.

djtestudo · 03-04-2004, 12:53 PM

I am about as pumped as I've ever been in the offseason!

Go Ravens!

clifclav · 03-04-2004, 01:00 PM

Yee Freaking Hah. that is some damn fine news.

Strange Famous · 03-04-2004, 01:41 PM

A pro bowl receiver and possible future hall of famer (if he could get his head right) for a second round draft pick - sounds like a good deal for the Ravens to me.

present_future · 03-04-2004, 02:04 PM

As long as Jamal Lewis does not face serious repurcussions from his problems with the law as of late, it looks like the Ravens will be one of the top teams in the AFC next year. That is if they can find a quarterback that will be able to get the ball to TO often enough to keep him interested in the game.

djtestudo · 03-04-2004, 02:27 PM

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Originally posted by present_future
As long as Jamal Lewis does not face serious repurcussions from his problems with the law as of late, it looks like the Ravens will be one of the top teams in the AFC next year. That is if they can find a quarterback that will be able to get the ball to TO often enough to keep him interested in the game.

Kyle Boller...

crewsor · 03-04-2004, 04:46 PM

Gotta be excited about this, lets see 8 in the box every play now! T.O., Heap and Taylor. Looks like the Ravens are serious about becoming more balanced. The great part is, it will most likely actually improve the running game.

heccubusiv · 03-04-2004, 06:52 PM

this news pisses me off... the browns and steelers could not beat the ravens before TO

djtestudo · 03-04-2004, 06:59 PM

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Originally posted by heccubusiv
this news pisses me off... the browns and steelers could not beat the ravens before TO

bellzboy · 03-04-2004, 08:54 PM

They dont even need a good QB now, they need one that can jsut huck it up to TO all day. He's a slightly better target than Marcus Robinson(bitter bears fan). Gus Ferotte taught us all that when you have an MVP caliber reciever, you don't have to exactly be an amazing QB. He said it himself, its not too hard when you throw it up and let Moss run under it.

MontanaXVI · 03-04-2004, 11:11 PM

*SIGH*SOB*SIGH*

'Tis gonna be one helluva year in the Bay area now

I was hoping it would not come to this and we would actually get some compensation out of him leaving, and what are we stuck with?

51st pick in the draft....

tru tru TO was a 3rd rounder himself but just one of the rare gems, just hoping this years WR crop is good enough that we can find a suitable replacement to go along with Lloyd and Wilson

grayman · 03-05-2004, 06:34 AM

If Jamal Lewis isn't is prison next season, the Ravens have to be the favorite from the AFC.

djtestudo · 03-05-2004, 09:46 AM

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Originally posted by MontanaXVI
*SIGH*SOB*SIGH*

'Tis gonna be one helluva year in the Bay area now

I was hoping it would not come to this and we would actually get some compensation out of him leaving, and what are we stuck with?

51st pick in the draft....

tru tru TO was a 3rd rounder himself but just one of the rare gems, just hoping this years WR crop is good enough that we can find a suitable replacement to go along with Lloyd and Wilson

Supposedly Philly was offering James Thrash and a fifth rounder...

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Originally posted by grayman
If Jamal Lewis isn't is prison next season, the Ravens have to be the favorite from the AFC.

Even if that happens, we have a guy, Musa Smith, who the Ravens thought was the 20th best player in the draft, and managed to fall to the third round. With Jamal getting all the carries and yards, we didn't see much of him, but the little I saw he looked like, well, Jamal Lewis.

Hanxter · 03-05-2004, 10:43 AM

i hear Jeff Garcia is going to the Ravens...

<center>***NEWS FLASH***
Terrell Owens has been traded to the Eagles...</center>

djtestudo · 03-05-2004, 12:28 PM

My apologies...I didn't get it at first, but thanks for bringing the forums a comedic atmosphere.

Spartak · 03-05-2004, 02:22 PM

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Originally posted by grayman
If Jamal Lewis isn't is prison next season, the Ravens have to be the favorite from the AFC.

AFC North maybe.

djtestudo · 03-05-2004, 03:33 PM

An update.

John Clayton says that TO and Philly had a contract in place, but that SF wouldn't agree to the fifth rounder and James Thrash deal, and Philly wasn't offering anything better. Baltimore came in with their deal and SF took it.

He also said that Baltimore's inital offer of a new deal isn't far from the deal TO had with Philly, so there should be no problems.

MontanaXVI · 03-05-2004, 07:26 PM

I also read somewhere that the Philly deal was also used to "shop" TO around ie lookie heres what we can get for him, one up that and he is yours.

I still say noghting less than HIGH 2nd round, but i am not an owner

and it is a done deal now.

Garcia to Cleveland would be something. Get to see TO play against the Browns AND Benglas AND get to see Garica MANY times.

Guess i am doing good as a niner fan in Ohio

SiphonX · 03-06-2004, 11:43 AM

well, supposably T.O. really wanted to play for the eagles, he said he plans to file grievance... does anybody know exactly what this means and does? here's the full story

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_yl...v=ap&type=lgns

djtestudo · 03-06-2004, 12:23 PM

He was going to file a grievence before this about not knowing about the date change to void his contract.

If he'll try to do one about the trade, he'll get laughed out of the room, since the trade is completely valid.

He's just angry about having a deal done and not being able to go there. Once Baltimore gives him the money, which they are in the process of doing, he'll be fine.

urpimpnes · 03-10-2004, 03:08 AM

I hope T.O ends up in philly. That would be more exciting to watch.

Mondak · 03-10-2004, 05:30 PM

Agents make like 10% of the contract value. I cannot believe that T.O.'s agent still has a job. This is the only thing he has to do all year and he does not do it. The trade should stand and TO should give his agent a beat down.

It would be frightening to think of the Eagles with TO. Crazy good team . . . UNTIL JOE GIBBS AND THE REVED UP 'SKINS BANDWAGON ROLLED INTO TOWN

Sorry about that. Have not done that in a long time.

djtestudo · 03-10-2004, 05:43 PM

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Originally posted by Mondak
Agents make like 10% of the contract value. I cannot believe that T.O.'s agent still has a job. This is the only thing he has to do all year and he does not do it. The trade should stand and TO should give his agent a beat down.

It would be frightening to think of the Eagles with TO. Crazy good team . . . UNTIL JOE GIBBS AND THE REVED UP 'SKINS BANDWAGON ROLLED INTO TOWN

Sorry about that. Have not done that in a long time.

Fortunately you won't have to for a while still

streak_56 · 03-12-2004, 02:53 AM

I think that San Fran. was intentionally screwing TO by sending him off to Baltimore... plus I think that Baltimore is a good place for TO..... it'll make him appreciate what he had in SF.

djtestudo · 03-12-2004, 09:46 AM

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Originally posted by streak_56
I think that San Fran. was intentionally screwing TO by sending him off to Baltimore... plus I think that Baltimore is a good place for TO..... it'll make him appreciate what he had in SF.

Umm...ok...what does that mean?

grayman · 03-12-2004, 02:11 PM

I think that it is a shot at the QB postion in Baltimore and the fact that San Fran has a primarily passing offense, whereas I think the Ravens threw the ball about 7 times last year.

crewsor · 03-12-2004, 04:46 PM

Obviously, Baltimores passing game was lacking last year. How making T.O. the primary target of an attempt to balance the Ravens offense would be considered screwing him is beyond me. Not to mention the Ravens offer to rework his contract to put him at a par with the leagues elite recievers.
What more can you ask than to be traded to a definate playoff and possible Superbowl contending team, where you're pretty much guaranteed to be a primary target.
I think T.O. is a head case who won't be happy no matter what, and the Ravens might be better off with their second round pick back and let some other unfortunate team deal with "Leon". ( referring to the beer commercial, Miller lite I think).
That commercial slays me and now I think of him whenever I see it.

djtestudo · 03-12-2004, 04:57 PM

"Go sit down Leon."

Ironically, what Billick will tell TO to do if he starts mouthing off

Hanxter · 03-15-2004, 09:45 AM

here's a good question...
should TO win his arbitration case, is the deal he made with Phillie binding or will he be able to negotiate with any other team?

djtestudo · 03-15-2004, 10:04 AM

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Originally posted by Hanxter
here's a good question...
should TO win his arbitration case, is the deal he made with Phillie binding or will he be able to negotiate with any other team?

It was a preliminary deal, which he would've signed had he been traded there.

If he's an FA, he can go anywhere though, or even demand a better deal from the Eagles.

crewsor · 03-15-2004, 01:47 PM

Or the Eagles could demand a better deal from him, knowing he doesn't care about the money and only wants to play for them........not.

grayman · 03-15-2004, 03:51 PM

Crewsor, that would be hilarious. They should offer him the league minimum with no signing bonus.

crewsor · 03-15-2004, 05:05 PM

Seriously, they would have him over a barrel. He would pretty much have to accept whatever they offer. Most other teams most like have been scared off. Not many were offering to begin with.

03-04-2004, 12:53 PM	#3 (permalink)
djtestudo Baltimoron Location: Beeeeeautiful Bel Air, MD	I am about as pumped as I've ever been in the offseason! Go Ravens! __________________ "Final thought: I just rented Michael Moore's Bowling for Columbine. Frankly, it was the worst sports movie I've ever seen." --Peter Schmuck, The (Baltimore) Sun

03-04-2004, 01:00 PM	#4 (permalink)
clifclav absolute relativist Location: D.C.	Yee Freaking Hah. that is some damn fine news. __________________ Neither rain , nor cold, nor dark of night shall.......ahh whatever, just get me a beer!

03-04-2004, 01:41 PM	#5 (permalink)
Strange Famous follower of the child's crusade?	A pro bowl receiver and possible future hall of famer (if he could get his head right) for a second round draft pick - sounds like a good deal for the Ravens to me. __________________ "Do not tell lies, and do not do what you hate, for all things are plain in the sight of Heaven. For nothing hidden will not become manifest, and nothing covered will remain without being uncovered." The Gospel of Thomas

03-04-2004, 02:04 PM	#6 (permalink)
present_future Take my hand Location: Everywhere, but nowhere	As long as Jamal Lewis does not face serious repurcussions from his problems with the law as of late, it looks like the Ravens will be one of the top teams in the AFC next year. That is if they can find a quarterback that will be able to get the ball to TO often enough to keep him interested in the game. __________________ The only thing I'll ever ask of you... you gotta promise not to stop when I say when.

03-04-2004, 04:46 PM	#8 (permalink)
crewsor Women want me. Men fear me. Location: Maryland,USA	Gotta be excited about this, lets see 8 in the box every play now! T.O., Heap and Taylor. Looks like the Ravens are serious about becoming more balanced. The great part is, it will most likely actually improve the running game. __________________ We all have wings, some of us just don't know why.

03-04-2004, 12:52 PM	#2 (permalink)
Doctor_Max Tilted Location: North Carolina	For a 2nd? Are you kidding me? Wow, so many teams missed out.

03-04-2004, 06:52 PM	#9 (permalink)
heccubusiv #1 Irish Fan Location: The Burgh	this news pisses me off... the browns and steelers could not beat the ravens before TO __________________ Fuck Ohio

03-04-2004, 08:54 PM	#11 (permalink)
bellzboy Crazy	They dont even need a good QB now, they need one that can jsut huck it up to TO all day. He's a slightly better target than Marcus Robinson(bitter bears fan). Gus Ferotte taught us all that when you have an MVP caliber reciever, you don't have to exactly be an amazing QB. He said it himself, its not too hard when you throw it up and let Moss run under it.

03-04-2004, 11:11 PM	#12 (permalink)
MontanaXVI Junkie Location: Go A's!!!!	SIGHSOBSIGH 'Tis gonna be one helluva year in the Bay area now I was hoping it would not come to this and we would actually get some compensation out of him leaving, and what are we stuck with? 51st pick in the draft.... tru tru TO was a 3rd rounder himself but just one of the rare gems, just hoping this years WR crop is good enough that we can find a suitable replacement to go along with Lloyd and Wilson __________________ Spank you very much

03-05-2004, 06:34 AM	#13 (permalink)
grayman you can't see me Location: Illinois	If Jamal Lewis isn't is prison next season, the Ravens have to be the favorite from the AFC. __________________ That's right - I'm a guy in a suit eating a Blizzard. F U.

03-05-2004, 10:43 AM	#15 (permalink)
Hanxter The Griffin	i hear Jeff Garcia is going to the Ravens... <center>*NEWS FLASH* Terrell Owens has been traded to the Eagles...</center>

03-05-2004, 12:28 PM	#16 (permalink)
djtestudo Baltimoron Location: Beeeeeautiful Bel Air, MD	My apologies...I didn't get it at first, but thanks for bringing the forums a comedic atmosphere. __________________ "Final thought: I just rented Michael Moore's Bowling for Columbine. Frankly, it was the worst sports movie I've ever seen." --Peter Schmuck, The (Baltimore) Sun Last edited by Hanxter; 03-06-2004 at 05:41 AM..

03-05-2004, 03:33 PM	#18 (permalink)
djtestudo Baltimoron Location: Beeeeeautiful Bel Air, MD	An update. John Clayton says that TO and Philly had a contract in place, but that SF wouldn't agree to the fifth rounder and James Thrash deal, and Philly wasn't offering anything better. Baltimore came in with their deal and SF took it. He also said that Baltimore's inital offer of a new deal isn't far from the deal TO had with Philly, so there should be no problems. __________________ "Final thought: I just rented Michael Moore's Bowling for Columbine. Frankly, it was the worst sports movie I've ever seen." --Peter Schmuck, The (Baltimore) Sun

03-05-2004, 07:26 PM	#19 (permalink)
MontanaXVI Junkie Location: Go A's!!!!	I also read somewhere that the Philly deal was also used to "shop" TO around ie lookie heres what we can get for him, one up that and he is yours. I still say noghting less than HIGH 2nd round, but i am not an owner and it is a done deal now. Garcia to Cleveland would be something. Get to see TO play against the Browns AND Benglas AND get to see Garica MANY times. Guess i am doing good as a niner fan in Ohio __________________ Spank you very much

03-06-2004, 11:43 AM	#20 (permalink)
SiphonX Crazy Location: Miami Beach, Fl	T.O. Unhappy well, supposably T.O. really wanted to play for the eagles, he said he plans to file grievance... does anybody know exactly what this means and does? here's the full story http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_yl...v=ap&type=lgns __________________ /Knowledge is Power/

03-06-2004, 12:23 PM	#21 (permalink)
djtestudo Baltimoron Location: Beeeeeautiful Bel Air, MD	He was going to file a grievence before this about not knowing about the date change to void his contract. If he'll try to do one about the trade, he'll get laughed out of the room, since the trade is completely valid. He's just angry about having a deal done and not being able to go there. Once Baltimore gives him the money, which they are in the process of doing, he'll be fine. __________________ "Final thought: I just rented Michael Moore's Bowling for Columbine. Frankly, it was the worst sports movie I've ever seen." --Peter Schmuck, The (Baltimore) Sun

03-10-2004, 03:08 AM	#22 (permalink)
urpimpnes Upright	I hope T.O ends up in philly. That would be more exciting to watch.

03-10-2004, 05:30 PM	#23 (permalink)
Mondak Industrialist Location: Southern California	Agents make like 10% of the contract value. I cannot believe that T.O.'s agent still has a job. This is the only thing he has to do all year and he does not do it. The trade should stand and TO should give his agent a beat down. It would be frightening to think of the Eagles with TO. Crazy good team . . . UNTIL JOE GIBBS AND THE REVED UP 'SKINS BANDWAGON ROLLED INTO TOWN Sorry about that. Have not done that in a long time. __________________ All truth passes through three stages: First it is ridiculed Second, it is violently opposed and Third, it is accepted as self-evident. ARTHUR SCHOPENHAUER (1788-1860)

03-12-2004, 02:53 AM	#25 (permalink)
streak_56 who ever said streaking was a bad thing? Location: Calgary	I think that San Fran. was intentionally screwing TO by sending him off to Baltimore... plus I think that Baltimore is a good place for TO..... it'll make him appreciate what he had in SF.

03-12-2004, 02:11 PM	#27 (permalink)
grayman you can't see me Location: Illinois	I think that it is a shot at the QB postion in Baltimore and the fact that San Fran has a primarily passing offense, whereas I think the Ravens threw the ball about 7 times last year. __________________ That's right - I'm a guy in a suit eating a Blizzard. F U.

03-12-2004, 04:46 PM	#28 (permalink)
crewsor Women want me. Men fear me. Location: Maryland,USA	Obviously, Baltimores passing game was lacking last year. How making T.O. the primary target of an attempt to balance the Ravens offense would be considered screwing him is beyond me. Not to mention the Ravens offer to rework his contract to put him at a par with the leagues elite recievers. What more can you ask than to be traded to a definate playoff and possible Superbowl contending team, where you're pretty much guaranteed to be a primary target. I think T.O. is a head case who won't be happy no matter what, and the Ravens might be better off with their second round pick back and let some other unfortunate team deal with "Leon". ( referring to the beer commercial, Miller lite I think). That commercial slays me and now I think of him whenever I see it. __________________ We all have wings, some of us just don't know why.

03-12-2004, 04:57 PM	#29 (permalink)
djtestudo Baltimoron Location: Beeeeeautiful Bel Air, MD	"Go sit down Leon." Ironically, what Billick will tell TO to do if he starts mouthing off __________________ "Final thought: I just rented Michael Moore's Bowling for Columbine. Frankly, it was the worst sports movie I've ever seen." --Peter Schmuck, The (Baltimore) Sun

03-15-2004, 09:45 AM	#30 (permalink)
Hanxter The Griffin	here's a good question... should TO win his arbitration case, is the deal he made with Phillie binding or will he be able to negotiate with any other team?

03-15-2004, 01:47 PM	#32 (permalink)
crewsor Women want me. Men fear me. Location: Maryland,USA	Or the Eagles could demand a better deal from him, knowing he doesn't care about the money and only wants to play for them........not. __________________ We all have wings, some of us just don't know why.

03-15-2004, 03:51 PM	#33 (permalink)
grayman you can't see me Location: Illinois	Crewsor, that would be hilarious. They should offer him the league minimum with no signing bonus. __________________ That's right - I'm a guy in a suit eating a Blizzard. F U.

03-15-2004, 05:05 PM	#34 (permalink)
crewsor Women want me. Men fear me. Location: Maryland,USA	Seriously, they would have him over a barrel. He would pretty much have to accept whatever they offer. Most other teams most like have been scared off. Not many were offering to begin with. __________________ We all have wings, some of us just don't know why.