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Old 01-16-2004, 02:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Carolina vs. Philly

I'm a Carolina fan. A pretty huge fan, actually. Season tickets, flags for the car, paint the face (at least my kid does) etc. etc.

Few will agree but, I think we can win this game against Philly. Our season has been full of games like the Rams game last week. And we've been very successful in winning the close ones. If we can keep them close, I like our chances even better.

We've got nothing to lose. Philly is on their third try in as many years and they are going to get hammered next year when it comes to salary cap issues. They need to get it right this time.

I think the humility that Coach Fox has instilled in his team this year will also go a long way. The team has been flying under the radar all season but even when they do get some national press time, these guys are not chest beating and talking all kinds of junk. Philly on the other hand has a pretty cocky attitude and that may work against them also.

I know the Eagles are going to be tough but us Panther fans are still cautiously (not wildly) optimistic. After all, don't the good guys usually win?

But, you know, even if they get waxed on Sunday, going from 1 and 15 to the NFC Championship in two years.......Well that ain't bad. Way to go Coach Fox.

GO PANTHERS!

Oh, I almost forgot, McNabb is on the cover of Sports Illustrated this week!
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Old 01-16-2004, 03:26 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I got my money on Carolina. As long as Delhomme can keep from throwing INT's they got a good chance.

Remember Philly got a sketchy run defense and even without Davis, Carlolina can still run it down their throats.

My prediction:
Carolina 24
Philly 14
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Old 01-16-2004, 03:42 PM   #3 (permalink)
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The key is whether the four-man front of the Panthers can get enough pressure on McNabb that he starts making mistakes. Also, to contain him enough that he can't use his legs like he did last week.

If they can contain and hurry McNabb, I think they will win through his mistakes. If not, he can do so much that it could get ugly.
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Old 01-16-2004, 03:43 PM   #4 (permalink)
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hell yeah the panthers can win. GB almost won and philly is 100% beatable. stephen davis all day
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Old 01-16-2004, 04:03 PM   #5 (permalink)
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With the Eagles rporous run defense and the Phillies offense being a one-man gang, Carolina should beat the Eagles. I just don't think it will happen. McNabb will find a way to win.
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Old 01-16-2004, 05:00 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Old 01-16-2004, 06:26 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Carolina coaches and players sat down to watch the Philly/Green Bay game tape and drooled. Why? What they saw is a team whose weaknesses play directly into their strengths.

DeShaun Foster will run rampant against a Philly defense that didn't show any ability to stop Ahman Green. Carolina really runs the ball well, and unlike Green Bay, won't get away from doing so.

Second, Philly's offense has been doing just enough. And they haven't seen a defense as tough as Carolina's. Look for Carolina's D to contain McNabb just enough to win the battle on that side of the ball, as well.

Carolina by seven.
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Old 01-16-2004, 07:06 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Naw, Eagles will win. They've been here three times, they won't let this one slip away. McNabb will rush for 200 this time around if he needs to. He also distributes the ball evenly, and Staley is a good back. Hopefully Troy Vincent can play and contain Muhammed and pick off some of Delhomme's passes, he tends to throw some INT's, but if Carolina's DeShaun Foster or Davis runs it in, then they probably have a chance. I see this game going down to the wire and being decided by a 2:00 drive.

Eagles or Panthers though... it doesn't really matter, seeing as the team that deserves this the most is the Colts. Sunday it will be 33 w/ a few snow showers, pretty decent weather for being Foxboro, Manning is no pussy, he can throw into the snow just like Brady, if not better. Hopefully they advance on Sunday and beat the NFC team in the Superbowl.
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Old 01-16-2004, 08:46 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Naw, Eagles will win. They've been here three times, they won't let this one slip away.
I don't buy that. If they were ment to win one, they'd have won last year, when they had a better team, were playing their last place in the best HFA stadium in the league before this year, and were facing an opponent that had never won a game in weather that cold in franchise history, and had that fact pounded into them all during the playoffs. They lost.

Of course, you can't count out Mr. Donavan F. McNabb, but the record shows that it will be hard. They're facing a team built to exploit their weaknesses, and that has the potential to negate their main strength.

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Eagles or Panthers though... it doesn't really matter, seeing as the team that deserves this the most is the Colts. Sunday it will be 33 w/ a few snow showers, pretty decent weather for being Foxboro, Manning is no pussy, he can throw into the snow just like Brady, if not better. Hopefully they advance on Sunday and beat the NFC team in the Superbowl.
Manning has never beaten the Patriots under Belicheck outdoors, I believe. Being a pussy has very little to do with it, it's whether he can stand up to a defense that can scheme to anyone in football, in conditions that he isn't used to.

I think both will be great games, though.

Panthers 17 Eagles 14

Patriots 24 Colts 20
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Old 01-16-2004, 11:41 PM   #10 (permalink)
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If Philly brings their tight ends into the game, they will win. Will set up the running game. If not, they will lose. Just my opinion.
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Old 01-16-2004, 11:49 PM   #11 (permalink)
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let's bet, I would agree that Carolina probably will win, but the Colts are going to beat NE, and it won't be a close game either. I'm thinking 31-17. The thing about the Colts is that the group of guys on offense has stayed the same for a good number of years. Manning by now knows where Edge, Harrison, Wayne, and now Stokely are on the field at all times. Last time they met, they lost to them by a yard, but this time they will be better prepared despite playing in Foxboro. Manning is probably the smartest QB in the game and he'll read NE's defense and make changes accordingly. The Patriots' last couple of wins have been real scrappy, they don't blow anyone out, they just leave it to Adam V. usually, but this time around, he won't get them into the Super Bowl. The amount of practice and film watching Manning has done this week must be insane, he's not going to lose this one. As for the Colts' D, I'm sure Dungy is tweaking things around, afterall, he's responsible for the Buc's Superbowl victory, Gruden didn't change one player on that defense.
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Old 01-17-2004, 04:21 AM   #12 (permalink)
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let's bet, I would agree that Carolina probably will win, but the Colts are going to beat NE, and it won't be a close game either. I'm thinking 31-17. The thing about the Colts is that the group of guys on offense has stayed the same for a good number of years. Manning by now knows where Edge, Harrison, Wayne, and now Stokely are on the field at all times. Last time they met, they lost to them by a yard, but this time they will be better prepared despite playing in Foxboro. Manning is probably the smartest QB in the game and he'll read NE's defense and make changes accordingly. The Patriots' last couple of wins have been real scrappy, they don't blow anyone out, they just leave it to Adam V. usually, but this time around, he won't get them into the Super Bowl. The amount of practice and film watching Manning has done this week must be insane, he's not going to lose this one. As for the Colts' D, I'm sure Dungy is tweaking things around, afterall, he's responsible for the Buc's Superbowl victory, Gruden didn't change one player on that defense.
Well, I am going to skip the entire Carolina breakdown b/c I'm hugely biased (go Panthers!) and my rant would last forever...

Concerning the Colts/Pats quickly:

Please remember that the Colts have played a zombified Denver and a joke of a defense against the Chiefs. Couple that with their last two games of the regular season when they scored 17 against Denver and BARELY came back against the Texans (in a game where they needed to win for homefield too). Oh yea in that Texans game they managed 20 points, mostly in the 4th quarter.

NE has the best defense in the entire NFL. Period. Not like those guys listed up top. And sorry but I don't think we can base a future game on just 2 previous performances (of course Peyton was PERFECT!). It might depend a whole hulluva lot more on Edge than Peyton...

21-17, Pats win (although I'll be rooting the Colts on)
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Old 01-17-2004, 06:33 AM   #13 (permalink)
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though realistically i think philly is gonna win... im rooting for carolina... I like how that team plays. they are tough and never quit. Either way it should be a hell of a game
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Old 01-17-2004, 11:34 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I feel that both teams have a good chance at winning the but im going for Philly.

My prediction: Colts vs Eagles in Houston.
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Old 01-17-2004, 01:57 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Predicting football is a pretty tough thing to do, so I'm just going to drop my argument 'cause you never know til gametime. Rams vs Patriots in the Superbowl is a prime example, the Rams were like the Lakers of football, and nobody was going to stop them, but in the last drive, all that changed. This weekend has the best matchups on TV that there has been in a while. All teams have a purely equal shot, but I must say, a grand Superbowl would consist of the Colts facing off against the Eagles.
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Old 01-17-2004, 02:13 PM   #16 (permalink)
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All I have to say is...

GO PANTHERS!!!

Carry on...
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Old 01-17-2004, 03:04 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I think the humility that Coach Fox has instilled in his team this year will also go a long way....even when they do get some national press time, these guys are not chest beating and talking all kinds of junk. Philly on the other hand has a pretty cocky attitude and that may work against them also... After all, don't the good guys usually win?
I guess your media outlet are showing things differently than they do around here. I don't think I have seen/heard one press item suggesting that the Eagles are taking this game or Carolina lightlly. Becuase they have lost the past two, they realize how significant this game is. I guess the humility that Fox instilled includes comments about them rather playing Green Bay. (And if you want to talk humility, look in Websters under Reid, Andy.)
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Old 01-18-2004, 11:35 AM   #18 (permalink)
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i think i'm gonna have to go with philly. dono and the boys have too much to prove.
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Old 01-18-2004, 01:30 PM   #19 (permalink)
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wow, looks like NE is really whooping the Colts. Tom Brady's short passes are pretty badass... they totally replace the running game, he's earned my respect, nice pick by Law too, these guys really play well together despite not having any real superstars. Hopefully the Colts can rebound in the second half and put on a show so that it's a little bit more entertaining. May the best team win.
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