01-04-2004, 08:12 AM | #1 (permalink) |
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Location: Indy
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Manning/McNair share MVP?
Maybe I'm missing it, but why isn't there any discussion about the "Co-MVP" award given to McNair and Manning?
Let's see, Manning beat Tennessee twice, the Titans won games easily with a QB nobody had ever heard of and one that was sitting on his couch for the first 15 weeks of the season!! Yeah, McNair really deserved that MVP award. The Titans defense being one of the best in the NFL had nothing to do with their success. What a joke!! Maybe Rush Limbaugh should have said substituted McNabb (who should easliy be the NFC MVP) with McNair.......... |
01-04-2004, 08:20 AM | #2 (permalink) |
Junkie
Location: Midwest
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I've never understood why we always need just one everything in our society. I, for example, think its just fine that USC and the LSU/Oklahoma winner can be co-champs. They had great seasons and deserve it.
I don't have a problem with Manning and McNair being co-MVP's. McNair is one of the best all-around football players in the NFL. He plays hurt, can beat you multiple ways, and is a good guy on top of it all. If you need just one, though, its tough to argue with bish. Manning deserves alot of credit for Indy's offensive output - he calls his own plays alot of the time for goodness sake. And he's every bit as integral to the success of his team as McNair is to his. |
01-04-2004, 08:28 AM | #3 (permalink) |
Crazy
Location: Indy
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I also think McNair is one of the best QB's in the game, but this was not his best season. When you compare his season to Manning's, Peyton's was clearly better. Personally, I would have voted for Jamal Lewis as MVP, then Manning second and Brady third.
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01-04-2004, 10:34 AM | #4 (permalink) |
Baltimoron
Location: Beeeeeautiful Bel Air, MD
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Yeah, the fact that Steve McNair had a great year despite a Baltimore-esque receiving corps and the bare remains of Eddie George's career, plus he won't agree to leave a game unless he is clinically dead, none of that is important to the Titans' success.
Wake me when Manning wins a real important game.
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01-04-2004, 11:25 AM | #5 (permalink) |
Crazy
Location: Indy
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Well, since the MVP is awarded based on regular season play, Manning won 2 pretty important games this year.........both against Tennessee.
We all saw how "poorly" Tennessee played without McNair this year...........2 blowout wins with below average QB's. |
01-04-2004, 12:21 PM | #6 (permalink) |
Baltimoron
Location: Beeeeeautiful Bel Air, MD
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Voleck (sp?) isn't a "below-average" QB. And Neil O'Donnall was playing against a Tampa team that just didn't give a shit anymore.
I'd take McNair over Manning any day. Manning is flashy, but McNair gets the job done.
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01-04-2004, 01:05 PM | #8 (permalink) |
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I thought Brady should have been MVP
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01-04-2004, 11:53 PM | #10 (permalink) |
Natalie Portman is sexy.
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McNair is one of the toughest sons of bitches in the NFL, he deserved the MVP award all to himself.
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01-05-2004, 12:03 AM | #11 (permalink) |
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McNair is co-MVP because he just wins. He creates plays where there is nothing, and he does it consistantly. He was basically the entire Titans offense, and he did it while injured for most of the year.
It's like two years ago when McNabb should have been MVP when he took the Eagles to the NFC championship game when his best (and only) receiver was Chad Lewis and his best running back (Duce) was injured. Not to mention his line was suspect, especially Runyon who basically rolled over and played dead in every single big game.
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01-05-2004, 10:31 AM | #12 (permalink) |
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I'm more upset about the fact they've chosen a co-mvp then who they chose.
If you're going to choose a "most valuable player" then choose one. ONE! One of them had to be better than the other. They both couldn't simply be the two most valuable players in the game. Choosing co-anything (especially in sports where #1 reigns supreme) is a wishy-washy way of saying we didn't have the sack big enough to make a command decision and actually choose. Manning had a good year; McNair had a good year; one of them had to be better at something than the other. Same rant applies to this co-champion thing in the BCS. They put themselves in position to make this decision then grow a pair and make the damn thing.
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01-05-2004, 10:35 AM | #13 (permalink) |
Baltimoron
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Um...you do realize that "co-MVP" comes from all the different writers voting from all over the country, and two guys ending up with the same # of votes? It isn't like someone goes "Dammit I can't decide! I'll vote both!"
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01-05-2004, 03:57 PM | #15 (permalink) |
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Location: NJ (but just for college)
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but as bish stated, the titans had to play a couple of games without him, and still man-handled their opponents
im sure they may not have been trying that much, but when manning was taken out at the end of the playoff game... the colts sucked! and btw, tom brady sucks |
01-05-2004, 09:06 PM | #16 (permalink) | |
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No, I had no idea how that worked There should be some sort of contingency plan for just this situation. I really don't care how they do it. Just do it. The term MVP implies a single player. The singular most valuable player in the game this year. If it can't be done, maybe they should just rename the award to "a couple of guys who were all real good and did some good things of equal valor and standing." Of course that would be rather long to slap on a trophy....maybe a plaque.
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01-06-2004, 12:17 AM | #19 (permalink) |
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QB's vs. QB's is like comparing Allen Iverson to Eric Lindros. It's completely pointless because they don't play against each other.
Without Manning the Colts could very likely contend. They have a great set of running backs, a good set of receivers, and a receiver that runs the best routes in the NFL and has the best pair of hands to match. The Titans on the other hand have a washed up running back, and some iffy receivers. The reason why there were Co-MVP's is that no one really stepped out this year, leading some people to vote by numbers and others to vote by gut. The result, one of each.
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01-12-2004, 06:38 PM | #20 (permalink) |
I'm not about getting creamed, I'm about winning!
Location: K-Town, TN
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I'm fine with the two co-MVP's, though I don't like the fact that there are co-MVP's. Of course, I'm a huge Titans and UT fan, so it's only natural I support Mcnair and Manning.
If I HAD to pick, I'd go with McNair, but it's a tough one either way.
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