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spectre · 04-18-2003, 11:11 PM

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Raiders have beef with uniforms for Bucs, Panthers

SAN JOSE, Calif. -- The Oakland Raiders have asked a judge to prevent the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Carolina Panthers from wearing their uniforms for games in California because they violate the Raiders' trademark rights.

The Raiders claim Tampa Bay's pirate logo is too similar to Oakland's. And the Raiders object to the Panthers' uniforms because two colors -- silver and black -- match those of the Raiders.

NFL spokesman Joe Browne said the issue is one of a handful that remain from a 1996 suit by the Raiders listing multiple grievances against the league. Some were transferred to courts in Los Angeles, where another Raiders case against the league is being fought.

Others already have been dismissed by Santa Clara County Superior Court Judge John Herlihy. He did not rule Tuesday on the Raiders' efforts to seek a court order against the NFL banning those uniforms in California.

Papers filed by the Raiders in the San Jose case say the Buccaneers' logo "is likely to dilute the distinctive quality of the Raiders' mark, thereby lessening its capacity to identify the Raiders and causing irreparable harm that cannot adequately be compensated by an award of damages.''

NFL attorneys argued there will always be overlap among logos and colors. One of them, James Hunt, said "Michigan could say any uniforms featuring predatory cats'' would be prohibited in that state, given that the Panthers and Jacksonville Jaguars also have such animals in their logos.

Herlihy seemed sympathetic to the NFL's position.

If California tells Tampa Bay to wear a new uniform for games here, he said, then Florida might say "when the Raiders come to Florida, get that logo off your uniform,'' Herlihy said, suggesting the Raiders might "put a daisy on your uniform'' as an alternative to their pirate.

The Panthers had no comment on the suit.
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So, the uniforms look somewhat similar, so a lawsuit is needed? Am I the only that thinks this is nuts?

cub4life78 · 04-19-2003, 02:55 AM

I agree. I first saw that on sportscenter and thought they were kidding. Al Davis is a complete retard for doing this. I mean come on, just because Carolina has black and silver in their uniforms he's making a big stink? Ugh...

laconic1 · 04-19-2003, 05:19 AM

If California tells Tampa Bay to wear a new uniform for games here, he said, then Florida might say "when the Raiders come to Florida, get that logo off your uniform,'' Herlihy said, suggesting the Raiders might "put a daisy on your uniform'' as an alternative to their pirate.

I for one would love to see this. It's sad to see just how pathetic Al Davis is.

SysteMatiC · 04-19-2003, 09:09 AM

So that is why rich gannon threw all those interception in the superbowl. He was throwing to the logo.

NoCure · 04-19-2003, 01:39 PM

This is just because Al and NFL don't get along, and Al is friggin' insane to think that even the casual fan is gonna get the Carolina Pathers or the Tampa Bay Bucs confused with the Oakland Raiders on any level.

bond007 · 04-19-2003, 01:51 PM

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NFL spokesman Joe Browne said the issue is one of a handful that remain from a 1996 suit by the Raiders listing multiple grievances against the league. Some were transferred to courts in Los Angeles, where another Raiders case against the league is being fought.

it kinda sounds like Davis threw a bunch of shit at the wall in hopes that some of it would stick.

PorscheBunny · 04-19-2003, 02:39 PM

Al Davis is about to receive the Marge Schott treatment from the NFL. Besides, he's pissed off LA, he's suing Oakland, where's he going to move next? Salt Lake City? Sacramento? San Antonio? Memphis?

Al Davis used to be entertainment value. Now he's just another moron.

RAMONES!!! · 04-19-2003, 05:40 PM

BITCH BITCH BITCH!!! they lost bad, real bad in the Super Bowl, get OVER IT!!!

MikeyChalupa · 04-21-2003, 09:44 AM

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Originally posted by spectre

Papers filed by the Raiders in the San Jose case say the Buccaneers' logo "is likely to dilute the distinctive quality of the Raiders' mark, thereby lessening its capacity to identify the Raiders and causing irreparable harm that cannot adequately be compensated by an award of damages.''

No, that would be the Bucs kicking your ass in the Super Bowl.

I read a snippet of this in Time Magazine this week and couldn't believe my eyes. Al Davis... please shut up.

-Mikey

queedo · 04-23-2003, 08:19 AM

Al Davis isn't happy unless he has something to complain about. He was a big man years ago in the NFL and now he is pissed off because nobody repects or likes him very much anymore.

The_Jazz · 06-02-2009, 12:48 PM

Six years later and what's changed? Other than a higher ratio of felons on the Raiders, that is.

Cross-Over · 06-02-2009, 09:04 PM

Last year, the Raiders signed Javon Walker to a huge contract, had him retire after getting hurt from a mugging (and give the signing bonus back!), but then convinced him to stay.

That move alone speaks volumes about the desperation and incompetency that flows from the top of that organization.

dohrk · 06-08-2009, 11:58 AM

Every year that passes seems to indicate the the greatness of Al Davis peaked with hiring John Madden.

04-18-2003, 11:11 PM	#1 (permalink)
spectre Junkie	What the hell is Al Davis thinking? LINK <hr> Raiders have beef with uniforms for Bucs, Panthers SAN JOSE, Calif. -- The Oakland Raiders have asked a judge to prevent the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Carolina Panthers from wearing their uniforms for games in California because they violate the Raiders' trademark rights. The Raiders claim Tampa Bay's pirate logo is too similar to Oakland's. And the Raiders object to the Panthers' uniforms because two colors -- silver and black -- match those of the Raiders. NFL spokesman Joe Browne said the issue is one of a handful that remain from a 1996 suit by the Raiders listing multiple grievances against the league. Some were transferred to courts in Los Angeles, where another Raiders case against the league is being fought. Others already have been dismissed by Santa Clara County Superior Court Judge John Herlihy. He did not rule Tuesday on the Raiders' efforts to seek a court order against the NFL banning those uniforms in California. Papers filed by the Raiders in the San Jose case say the Buccaneers' logo "is likely to dilute the distinctive quality of the Raiders' mark, thereby lessening its capacity to identify the Raiders and causing irreparable harm that cannot adequately be compensated by an award of damages.'' NFL attorneys argued there will always be overlap among logos and colors. One of them, James Hunt, said "Michigan could say any uniforms featuring predatory cats'' would be prohibited in that state, given that the Panthers and Jacksonville Jaguars also have such animals in their logos. Herlihy seemed sympathetic to the NFL's position. If California tells Tampa Bay to wear a new uniform for games here, he said, then Florida might say "when the Raiders come to Florida, get that logo off your uniform,'' Herlihy said, suggesting the Raiders might "put a daisy on your uniform'' as an alternative to their pirate. The Panthers had no comment on the suit. <hr> So, the uniforms look somewhat similar, so a lawsuit is needed? Am I the only that thinks this is nuts? __________________ "Fuck these chains No goddamn slave I will be different" ~ Machine Head

04-19-2003, 09:09 AM	#4 (permalink)
SysteMatiC Insane Location: unfortunately not ireland	So that is why rich gannon threw all those interception in the superbowl. He was throwing to the logo. __________________ I have more respect for a man who says what he means, even if he is wrong, then one who acts like an angel, but is nothing but a devil.

04-19-2003, 01:39 PM	#5 (permalink)
NoCure Crazy Location: Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio	This is just because Al and NFL don't get along, and Al is friggin' insane to think that even the casual fan is gonna get the Carolina Pathers or the Tampa Bay Bucs confused with the Oakland Raiders on any level. __________________ ...So I punched her in the cunt

04-19-2003, 02:39 PM	#7 (permalink)
PorscheBunny Insane	Al Davis is about to receive the Marge Schott treatment from the NFL. Besides, he's pissed off LA, he's suing Oakland, where's he going to move next? Salt Lake City? Sacramento? San Antonio? Memphis? Al Davis used to be entertainment value. Now he's just another moron. __________________ This post has been sanitized for your protection by the Ministry of Information of Oceania.

04-19-2003, 05:40 PM	#8 (permalink)
RAMONES!!! _-_---_-_	BITCH BITCH BITCH!!! they lost bad, real bad in the Super Bowl, get OVER IT!!! __________________ Come on

04-19-2003, 02:55 AM	#2 (permalink)
cub4life78 Insane Location: Kansas	I agree. I first saw that on sportscenter and thought they were kidding. Al Davis is a complete retard for doing this. I mean come on, just because Carolina has black and silver in their uniforms he's making a big stink? Ugh...

04-19-2003, 05:19 AM	#3 (permalink)
laconic1 Junkie	If California tells Tampa Bay to wear a new uniform for games here, he said, then Florida might say "when the Raiders come to Florida, get that logo off your uniform,'' Herlihy said, suggesting the Raiders might "put a daisy on your uniform'' as an alternative to their pirate. I for one would love to see this. It's sad to see just how pathetic Al Davis is.

04-23-2003, 08:19 AM	#10 (permalink)
queedo Shodan	Al Davis isn't happy unless he has something to complain about. He was a big man years ago in the NFL and now he is pissed off because nobody repects or likes him very much anymore. __________________ If you think you can or you can't, you are right!

06-02-2009, 12:48 PM	#11 (permalink)
The_Jazz Asshole Administrator Location: Chicago	Six years later and what's changed? Other than a higher ratio of felons on the Raiders, that is. __________________ "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - B. Franklin "There ought to be limits to freedom." - George W. Bush "We have met the enemy and he is us." - Pogo

06-02-2009, 09:04 PM	#12 (permalink)
Cross-Over Psycho	Last year, the Raiders signed Javon Walker to a huge contract, had him retire after getting hurt from a mugging (and give the signing bonus back!), but then convinced him to stay. That move alone speaks volumes about the desperation and incompetency that flows from the top of that organization.

06-08-2009, 11:58 AM	#13 (permalink)
dohrk 19	Every year that passes seems to indicate the the greatness of Al Davis peaked with hiring John Madden. __________________ The man in black fled across the desert, and the gunslinger followed. -Stephen King