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koolaid 08-26-2003 03:01 PM

College Football national champs in 04?
 
I am a big Ohio State Buckeyes Fan but I don't know if they have what it takes? What are everyones thoughts? Lets try to keep them semi realistic. Lord knows Michigan has NO chance!

Mondak 08-26-2003 03:02 PM

TERPS!

djtestudo 08-26-2003 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mondak
TERPS!
Is there any doubt ;)

AL9045 08-26-2003 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mondak
TERPS!
Hear Hear! :D.

The_Dude 08-26-2003 03:47 PM

TEXAS


Hook 'em Baby

we have a good D as usual comin back and an offense with a variety of high powered weapons. nobody can stop us now....

AL9045 08-26-2003 03:50 PM

Losing Simms helps you guys. :D.

jfranco13 08-26-2003 04:01 PM

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Originally posted by AL9045
Losing Simms helps you guys. :D.
I think I agree with that. It should be another big-12 year with Texas and Oklahoma both in the running. Screw Miami, the traitors!!!!!! :)

omnigod 08-26-2003 04:25 PM

bah! you people dont know football! KSTATE ALL THE WAY! :D

The_Dude 08-26-2003 04:37 PM

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Originally posted by omnigod
bah! you people dont know football! KSTATE ALL THE WAY! :D
k-state is playing texas in austin.

that's an L

AL9045 08-26-2003 04:41 PM

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Originally posted by The_Dude
k-state is playing texas in austin.

that's an L

We'll see. :D.

I looked in the papers and that Roberson was tearing it up, of course CA doesn't have the #1 defense, but those are some pretty nice stats.

Kansas State Comp Att Yds Pct Y/A Sack YdsL TD Int
E. Roberson 9 18 205 50.0 22.8 1 5 3 0

Kansas State Rush Yds Avg Lng TD Fum
E. Roberson 18 146 8.1 33 1 0

The_Dude 08-26-2003 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AL9045
We'll see. :D.

I looked in the papers and that Roberson was tearing it up, of course CA doesn't have the #1 defense, but those are some pretty nice stats.

Kansas State Comp Att Yds Pct Y/A Sack YdsL TD Int
E. Roberson 9 18 205 50.0 22.8 1 5 3 0

Kansas State Rush Yds Avg Lng TD Fum
E. Roberson 18 146 8.1 33 1 0

while you're quoting stats, how about the k-state d against california?? they scored 28 points against ksu defense! and CA SUCKS!

snyder is gonna make 'em work their asses off.

ell-train was very impressive as was sproles, but the d just let down so much!


and you know about the UT offensive players and how lethal they are.

AL9045 08-26-2003 04:54 PM

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Originally posted by The_Dude
while you're quoting stats, how about the k-state d against california?? they scored 28 points against ksu defense! and CA SUCKS!

snyder is gonna make 'em work their asses off.

ell-train was very impressive as was sproles, but the d just let down so much!


and you know about the UT offensive players and how lethal they are.

We'll see. :).

The_Dude 08-26-2003 05:07 PM

and not to mention ksu's kicking/punting units :D

remember last yr vs texas in manhattan? (i actually wanted ksu to win that game cuz i wasnt in UT at that time and i used to live in kansas).

i checked their roster and looks like the same punter & kicker are coming back.

archer2371 08-26-2003 05:30 PM

Finally, something that The_Dude and I agree on!!! Let there be cheering in the streets, let us all rejoice!!! Anyways, yeah, KSU has no defense to speak of, if you let Cal even score 14 points on you, you should be ashamed. Anyways, KSU just doesn't have a chance in Austin, I'm sorry. This year should be Texas' year to be national champs, if they don't do it this year, next year is readily available too. Although, the Sooners have a pretty good chance at playing and winning the national championship. Anyways, it'll be either Texas or Oklahoma vs. Miami, and it won't be Miami that wins.

Reddevil63 08-26-2003 07:37 PM

Nah UT's title hopes will go down the drain when they lose to the Aggies. Lol boy I am a dreamer...

The_Dude 08-26-2003 07:47 PM

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Originally posted by Reddevil63
Nah UT's title hopes will go down the drain when they lose to the Aggies. Lol boy I am a dreamer...
yes you are.

aTm has reggie mac, but he has only played one game before so put him on par with chance mock/vince young.

it will be sweet kickin aTm @ kyle field this yr!

Reddevil63 08-26-2003 07:55 PM

Prolly but if UT takes 'em litely then I can see A&M doing what they did to OU last year.

The_Dude 08-26-2003 08:10 PM

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Originally posted by Reddevil63
Prolly but if UT takes 'em litely then I can see A&M doing what they did to OU last year.
OU never saw any tapes of reggie mac in action.

if reggie starts for aTm, UT will have lots of tapes to scour thru.

Reddevil63 08-26-2003 08:26 PM

Hmmmm very good point, I never really thought about that...

The_Dude 08-26-2003 08:47 PM

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Originally posted by Reddevil63
Hmmmm very good point, I never really thought about that...
however, i did :D

we went to the same school and he led us to the state championship :D

Blu2e354 08-26-2003 09:03 PM

Oklahoma defence will carry them to the championship

MikeyChalupa 08-27-2003 02:42 AM

When you're ranked #117, there's nowhere to go but up. Ladies and gentlemen, your

BUFFALO BULLS!


Okay, maybe not. Texas. But the championship game will be close, like last year.

-Mikey

briana 08-27-2003 03:31 AM

Have to say that I'll vote in on the side of K-State for the UT-KSU discussion going on... sure KSU offense can put the points on the board the biggest question is the defense this year....I agree that "holding" CA to 21 or whatever they had last week isn't much to brag on and won't put a win in the books if they can't do better when they head to Texas

The_Dude 08-27-2003 06:15 AM

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Originally posted by briana
Have to say that I'll vote in on the side of K-State for the UT-KSU discussion going on... sure KSU offense can put the points on the board the biggest question is the defense this year....I agree that "holding" CA to 21 or whatever they had last week isn't much to brag on and won't put a win in the books if they can't do better when they head to Texas
also, have you seen the ksu schedule strenghth?? it's in the hundred's out of 113.

they will have to rely heavily on the quality of win to get a decent bcs bowl.

and trust me, ksu will NOT blow out texas.

Grouper 08-27-2003 09:38 AM

UT/Mack Brown can't win a big game. Until they prove otherwise, no way I take Texas as national champs. I'd take Oklahoma over Texas all day!

omnigod 08-27-2003 10:32 AM

I wish KSU had a good punter last year, we would have won those two games that we lost. Seeing him kick durring the CA game he looked very improved, and yes, Synder is making them work their asses off.

The_Dude 08-27-2003 10:50 AM

i think roberson will win the heisman if he plays like he did against california.

SAM821 08-27-2003 12:36 PM

This Thursday night on ESPN, @ 7:30 pm ET watch the 2004 National Champs against Louisiana Tech

The Miami Hurricanes will win it all this year!

AL9045 08-27-2003 12:46 PM

-_-.

kwIII 08-27-2003 07:54 PM

NCSU :)


















ok so maybe a long shot, but maybe we can pull a cinderella like we did in '83 except in football this time chuck 'em baby!!!

lions20 08-28-2003 07:13 AM

Miami Hurricanes will win it.

Geoff 08-28-2003 12:01 PM

There is a little team...um....the sooners.......they have a small outside chance.....if they can make it past that high school team......North Texas

cementor 08-29-2003 06:55 AM

1) TERPS ... I don't think so. NIU 20 UM13 That's a loss I think you don't come back from!

2) Texas ...Nope they have a minor problem in the 2nd week of October. The 11th to be specific.

3) Ohio State... I think Clarretts situation alone would knock them out, but they can't possibly win ALL the close one's like they did last year.

4) Oklahoma .. My hearts choice, since I'm an alum. Will be great defensively and they'll have to be. Replacing the skills and a twice surgically repaired QB with a totally untested back up will be tough to overcome. They might just pull it off if the D scores twice a game. And this team is DEEP and Experienced. They won't get outcoached either and they won't play not to win. Somebody will have to play over their heads to beat um. Or in Texas ' case they will have to play to the full extent of their talent!!

5) Don't completely write off North Texas (particularly as a "High School " team. They finished last year with 7 straight wins including a bowl game. They won't pull and NIU, at least not this week!

6) K- State - Should be fun to watch the shoot ous , but the D has major issues! No way national title but will likely get to the Conference title game.

Best regards!! I love this time of year!! BOOMER SOONER #1 til someone proves otherwise!!

djtestudo 08-29-2003 09:08 AM

So...an 11-1 season, winning the ACC Championship, couldn't do anything to help? Especially since the conference has the automatic BCS bid? And the fact that the team has stuggled at the beginning the past two years before getting it together for the main part of the season?

AL9045 08-29-2003 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cementor
1) TERPS ... I don't think so. NIU 20 UM13 That's a loss I think you don't come back from!

2) Texas ...Nope they have a minor problem in the 2nd week of October. The 11th to be specific.

3) Ohio State... I think Clarretts situation alone would knock them out, but they can't possibly win ALL the close one's like they did last year.

4) Oklahoma .. My hearts choice, since I'm an alum. Will be great defensively and they'll have to be. Replacing the skills and a twice surgically repaired QB with a totally untested back up will be tough to overcome. They might just pull it off if the D scores twice a game. And this team is DEEP and Experienced. They won't get outcoached either and they won't play not to win. Somebody will have to play over their heads to beat um. Or in Texas ' case they will have to play to the full extent of their talent!!

5) Don't completely write off North Texas (particularly as a "High School " team. They finished last year with 7 straight wins including a bowl game. They won't pull and NIU, at least not this week!

6) K- State - Should be fun to watch the shoot ous , but the D has major issues! No way national title but will likely get to the Conference title game.

Best regards!! I love this time of year!! BOOMER SOONER #1 til someone proves otherwise!!

Um, it's not like NIU sucks, they did win the MAC West or East or whatever last year, and they had a "legitimate" Heisman Cotender in "Turner the Burner". Think about it, if Maryland was at FULL strength, and didn't commit those penalties it would've been 13-10 MD.

Btw, you are too biased. :p.

wwcd101 08-29-2003 10:55 AM

Last year was lucky.

This year the Bucks are better. Look out.

Thanks for listening.

Jaiddin 08-29-2003 02:16 PM

Oklahoma wins it all.

Mack Brown is a good coach, bue he isn't a championship coach. Stoops owns Mack's head.

cementor 08-29-2003 05:06 PM

AL9045

At 11-1 they would still have a tall mountain due to the ranking after thisa week. They might get a shot , but a bunch of folks have to lose to get them in the hunt. As an case in point the initially 20th ranked Sooners of 2000 had to go 12-0 to get a shot at FSU, Don't be suprised if UM drops into the 20 + range (probably without justification), but these days its' tough to recover and you don't control your own destiny anymore. I hope they do go 11-1 but I'd be suprised. I kinda like that crew and I really like the coach. He seems like a good guy.
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Betcha can't tell I like yakkin about this stuff!

AL9045 08-29-2003 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cementor
AL9045

At 11-1 they would still have a tall mountain due to the ranking after thisa week. They might get a shot , but a bunch of folks have to lose to get them in the hunt. As an case in point the initially 20th ranked Sooners of 2000 had to go 12-0 to get a shot at FSU, Don't be suprised if UM drops into the 20 + range (probably without justification), but these days its' tough to recover and you don't control your own destiny anymore. I hope they do go 11-1 but I'd be suprised. I kinda like that crew and I really like the coach. He seems like a good guy.
\
Betcha can't tell I like yakkin about this stuff!

I wasn't talking about a National Championship, but this year, it looks like to me, no team will go undefeated, leaving it up in the air, all the conferences look very competitive, and with Miami, Pittsburgh and Virginia Tech playing each other, it's very possible to see all the teams lose at least one. And in the other conferences it's also up in the air.

I see losing the first game as a blessing, rather than losing the last one.

We'll see, the Big 12 has always had crazy championship games, and it's possible that teams will lose.

The_Dude 08-29-2003 06:54 PM

i feel like a big 12 team will go undefeated.

either ksu or ut or ou.

one of them will make it to the natl championship.


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