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jfranco13 · 08-24-2003, 07:45 PM

Pennington looks to be out at least 12 weeks, even though it's his non-throwing hand (or so I heard, don't know if that's true)

They've still got the old warhorse Testaverde and they're looking to trade for another addled veteran, but with C-Mart also aging, does anyone see good things for the J-E-T-S this year?

The_Dude · 08-24-2003, 08:19 PM

testaverde has proved he is good.

and they're not as screwed as atlanta.

Mojo · 08-24-2003, 08:48 PM

Jets who in the hell cares Its DA Bears Baby were due

MikeyChalupa · 08-25-2003, 02:11 AM

You know how losing Vick for a few weeks affects the Falcons? This is like a thousand times worse for the Jets, especially with all the other players they lost in the offseason, like Chad Morton, who is probably the best kick returner in the game. Of course, as a Bills fan, I'm glad that the Jets are now out of what was the tightest division race this year.

-Mikey

spectre · 08-25-2003, 07:42 AM

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Originally posted by The_Dude
and they're not as screwed as atlanta.

I take it you didn't see any of the games that Doug Johnson played in when Vick got injured last season.

AL9045 · 08-25-2003, 11:27 AM

Um, they went 1-1 with Johnson, which isn't horrible, but could be better.

I don't think the Jets are that screwed though, Testeverde is just one of those players who either gets really hot or really cold.

Usually really cold, but he's been in the league long enough to know the ropes...

I think losing Coles is going to hamper them even more now.

Begora21 · 08-25-2003, 12:12 PM

Testaverde will be fine ... I'm a Giant fan, now THEY would be screwed if they lost Collins ... I can't imagine that.

The Jets with Vinny won't be that hurt

lions20 · 08-25-2003, 12:19 PM

I think Vinny will do decent. The Jets have a lot of things to worry about though. They lost their number one receiver (Coles) and I think that hurts even more.

AL9045 · 08-25-2003, 12:21 PM

Yeah, I was talking to this guy and he said that losing Coles meant nothing, he said their other receivers could easily fill the void by Coles.

Man, Coles is doing great for the preseason, and it looks like he'll have a even better year this year.

spectre · 08-25-2003, 02:29 PM

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Originally posted by AL9045
Um, they went 1-1 with Johnson, which isn't horrible, but could be better.

Which is exactly my point. Atlanta isn't screwed. They may not be in as good of a position as they would have been with Vick, but Johnson won't do so bad that you can say the Falcons are screwed.

gov135 · 08-25-2003, 04:32 PM

The Jets will have a rough go of it. Miami, New England, and Buffalo count for six games of their season. They may not win one of those.

I think it depends on how healthy they can stay. If Testaverde goes down, or Curtis Martin takes a fall, look out.

JoeyB · 08-25-2003, 06:22 PM

For the most part, there is a reason why someone is the backup instead of the starter. Granted, there is a rare circumstance when the backup will step in and not only not lose a step, but actually improve the team. (Kurt Warner stepping in for an injured Trent Green comes to mind.....and then Marc Bulger stepping in for an injured Warner---weird) When Pennington took over for Testaverde, it actually sparked the Jets. Why would anyone think bringing Vinny back in would benefit NY??

Obviously, NY is in a slightly better situation than Atlanta. For the Falcons, Michael Vick is there offense. With the Jets, Curtis Martin can carry a bit more of the load.

New York won't make the playoffs. This opens up the the division for the Dolphins and opens up another wild card spot for another team.

MikeyChalupa · 08-26-2003, 08:17 AM

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Originally posted by JoeyB
For the most part, there is a reason why someone is the backup instead of the starter. Granted, there is a rare circumstance when the backup will step in and not only not lose a step, but actually improve the team. (Kurt Warner stepping in for an injured Trent Green comes to mind.....and then Marc Bulger stepping in for an injured Warner---weird) When Pennington took over for Testaverde, it actually sparked the Jets. Why would anyone think bringing Vinny back in would benefit NY??

Furthermore, in none of those situations was the backup QB just about 40 years old. You can't pin your AFC East playoff hopes on Testaverde. They've already gone out and signed Todd Husak, and are auditioning Jamie Martin, which says that even they don't expect Testaverde to take every snap until Pennington comes back. Interestingly, they turned down a trade for Mark Brunell. Jax seems ready to give that team to Leftwich. Brunell is 33 and still has a few good years ahead of him as a starter. He has been hampered by nagging injuries but not like Testaverde has.

-Mikey

wwcd101 · 08-27-2003, 11:25 AM

Totally.

Thanks for listening.

08-24-2003, 07:45 PM	#1 (permalink)
jfranco13 Crazy Location: Pittsburgh, PA	How screwed are the Jets? Pennington looks to be out at least 12 weeks, even though it's his non-throwing hand (or so I heard, don't know if that's true) They've still got the old warhorse Testaverde and they're looking to trade for another addled veteran, but with C-Mart also aging, does anyone see good things for the J-E-T-S this year?

08-24-2003, 08:19 PM	#2 (permalink)
The_Dude The GrandDaddy of them all! Location: Austin, TX	testaverde has proved he is good. and they're not as screwed as atlanta. __________________ "Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity." - Darrel K Royal

08-25-2003, 06:22 PM	#12 (permalink)
JoeyB feeling tingly	For the most part, there is a reason why someone is the backup instead of the starter. Granted, there is a rare circumstance when the backup will step in and not only not lose a step, but actually improve the team. (Kurt Warner stepping in for an injured Trent Green comes to mind.....and then Marc Bulger stepping in for an injured Warner---weird) When Pennington took over for Testaverde, it actually sparked the Jets. Why would anyone think bringing Vinny back in would benefit NY?? Obviously, NY is in a slightly better situation than Atlanta. For the Falcons, Michael Vick is there offense. With the Jets, Curtis Martin can carry a bit more of the load. New York won't make the playoffs. This opens up the the division for the Dolphins and opens up another wild card spot for another team. __________________ My mom is a Diamondbacks fan. She really likes the Big Unit

08-24-2003, 08:48 PM	#3 (permalink)
Mojo Upright	Jets who in the hell cares Its DA Bears Baby were due

08-25-2003, 02:11 AM	#4 (permalink)
MikeyChalupa Squid Location: USS George Washington	You know how losing Vick for a few weeks affects the Falcons? This is like a thousand times worse for the Jets, especially with all the other players they lost in the offseason, like Chad Morton, who is probably the best kick returner in the game. Of course, as a Bills fan, I'm glad that the Jets are now out of what was the tightest division race this year. -Mikey

08-25-2003, 11:27 AM	#6 (permalink)
AL9045 Addict Location: Virginia	Um, they went 1-1 with Johnson, which isn't horrible, but could be better. I don't think the Jets are that screwed though, Testeverde is just one of those players who either gets really hot or really cold. Usually really cold, but he's been in the league long enough to know the ropes... I think losing Coles is going to hamper them even more now.

08-25-2003, 12:12 PM	#7 (permalink)
Begora21 Insane	Testaverde will be fine ... I'm a Giant fan, now THEY would be screwed if they lost Collins ... I can't imagine that. The Jets with Vinny won't be that hurt

08-25-2003, 12:19 PM	#8 (permalink)
lions20 Insane	I think Vinny will do decent. The Jets have a lot of things to worry about though. They lost their number one receiver (Coles) and I think that hurts even more.

08-25-2003, 12:21 PM	#9 (permalink)
AL9045 Addict Location: Virginia	Yeah, I was talking to this guy and he said that losing Coles meant nothing, he said their other receivers could easily fill the void by Coles. Man, Coles is doing great for the preseason, and it looks like he'll have a even better year this year.

08-25-2003, 04:32 PM	#11 (permalink)
gov135 Junkie Location: Midwest	The Jets will have a rough go of it. Miami, New England, and Buffalo count for six games of their season. They may not win one of those. I think it depends on how healthy they can stay. If Testaverde goes down, or Curtis Martin takes a fall, look out.

08-27-2003, 11:25 AM	#14 (permalink)
wwcd101 Insane	Totally. Thanks for listening.