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Ryan · 08-22-2003, 10:41 AM

Robinson for Sura!!!!! WTF

I am a big fan of Uncle Cliffy and I for one don't understand this deal... We give up Pepe and Cliff for Bob Sura. Who is nothing more than a sub par Jon Barry Clone.. I just dont understand this move... Your comments...

buclao · 08-22-2003, 06:53 PM

What... I just don't understand the logic behind that trade at all. I mean they gave up Clifford Robinson, a future hall of famer IMHO, and Pepe Sanchez for Bob Sura? I... just need to lie down. I'm just shocked by it.

JTC · 08-22-2003, 07:06 PM

Pistons needed to clear some room in the frontcourt. They were very top heavy with Wallace/Campbell/Darko/Rebraca/Okur/Williamson/Uncle Cliff.

They also needed a player to take over Jon Barry's role from last year. Sura is in the last year of his contract and is rather overpaid so the Pistons will clear cap space and be able to re-sign the core of Milicic/Prince/Okur when their contracts come up. Sura is a decent player and should fill their need ideally. They don't want to be in the same situation as the Pacers were when they had to trade Brad Miller due to salary cap issues.

Uncle Cliff is a great player and has been awesome for the Pistons over the last few years. It's sad that he couldn't play out his career in Detriot but it is definitely a good move for the Pistons long-term. I think they'll miss him a little next year but looking much further than that it's hard to see.

Artermis · 08-23-2003, 06:10 AM

JTC said it pretty well but let me add a couple of things.

Sura is a MUCH better defender than Barry was. He can also play the 1 slot, which allows Joe to move Chucky at some point.

Cliff is a no rebounding big man and Wallace needed help there and that is why Elden was brought in.

Also the salary cap thing was huge. Sura's 5 mil comes off the book next year and now that gives Detroit some wiggle room when it comes to signing Okur next season.

I watched the playoffs and I heard that Cliff played in them but I do not remember seeing him on the floor.

Art

m5man · 08-23-2003, 11:27 AM

Sura ... makes me think of that kid from Duke in the 90's ... crap what was his name, got into a bad accident and missed a lot of his first or second season in the NBA ... Bobby something

well anyways ... it will be interesting to see how this all plays out

djtestudo · 08-23-2003, 12:35 PM

Bobby Hurley (second-best PG in ACC history).

JTC · 08-23-2003, 03:53 PM

Looks like Dumars isn't done trading yet....

Still plans to make a move for some help at SF

Link to Article

Marbire · 08-24-2003, 06:43 PM

I was also very surprised with this trade.......... Cliff is a great player and hit some clutch 3's last season. But, wit them getting Darko, I think this trade will help the Pistons in the long run.

08-22-2003, 10:41 AM	#1 (permalink)
Ryan Crazy	Pistons Trade Robinson for Sura!!!! Robinson for Sura!!!!! WTF I am a big fan of Uncle Cliffy and I for one don't understand this deal... We give up Pepe and Cliff for Bob Sura. Who is nothing more than a sub par Jon Barry Clone.. I just dont understand this move... Your comments...

08-22-2003, 07:06 PM	#3 (permalink)
JTC Tilted Location: Australia	Pistons needed to clear some room in the frontcourt. They were very top heavy with Wallace/Campbell/Darko/Rebraca/Okur/Williamson/Uncle Cliff. They also needed a player to take over Jon Barry's role from last year. Sura is in the last year of his contract and is rather overpaid so the Pistons will clear cap space and be able to re-sign the core of Milicic/Prince/Okur when their contracts come up. Sura is a decent player and should fill their need ideally. They don't want to be in the same situation as the Pacers were when they had to trade Brad Miller due to salary cap issues. Uncle Cliff is a great player and has been awesome for the Pistons over the last few years. It's sad that he couldn't play out his career in Detriot but it is definitely a good move for the Pistons long-term. I think they'll miss him a little next year but looking much further than that it's hard to see. __________________ I like to eat cheese

08-23-2003, 12:35 PM	#6 (permalink)
djtestudo Baltimoron Location: Beeeeeautiful Bel Air, MD	Bobby Hurley (second-best PG in ACC history). __________________ "Final thought: I just rented Michael Moore's Bowling for Columbine. Frankly, it was the worst sports movie I've ever seen." --Peter Schmuck, The (Baltimore) Sun

08-23-2003, 03:53 PM	#7 (permalink)
JTC Tilted Location: Australia	Looks like Dumars isn't done trading yet.... Still plans to make a move for some help at SF Link to Article __________________ I like to eat cheese

08-22-2003, 06:53 PM	#2 (permalink)
buclao Insane	What... I just don't understand the logic behind that trade at all. I mean they gave up Clifford Robinson, a future hall of famer IMHO, and Pepe Sanchez for Bob Sura? I... just need to lie down. I'm just shocked by it.

08-23-2003, 06:10 AM	#4 (permalink)
Artermis Insane Location: I live where all the morons live	JTC said it pretty well but let me add a couple of things. Sura is a MUCH better defender than Barry was. He can also play the 1 slot, which allows Joe to move Chucky at some point. Cliff is a no rebounding big man and Wallace needed help there and that is why Elden was brought in. Also the salary cap thing was huge. Sura's 5 mil comes off the book next year and now that gives Detroit some wiggle room when it comes to signing Okur next season. I watched the playoffs and I heard that Cliff played in them but I do not remember seeing him on the floor. Art

08-23-2003, 11:27 AM	#5 (permalink)
m5man Tilted	Sura ... makes me think of that kid from Duke in the 90's ... crap what was his name, got into a bad accident and missed a lot of his first or second season in the NBA ... Bobby something well anyways ... it will be interesting to see how this all plays out

08-24-2003, 06:43 PM	#8 (permalink)
Marbire Banned Location: U.S.A.	I was also very surprised with this trade.......... Cliff is a great player and hit some clutch 3's last season. But, wit them getting Darko, I think this trade will help the Pistons in the long run.