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djtestudo · 07-31-2003, 12:38 PM

Reds 3b Aaron Boone traded to the Yankees for AAA RHP Brandon Claussen and cash.

Orioles RHP Sidney Ponson traded to Giants for LHP Damion Moss and LHP Kurt Ainsworth.

Halx · 07-31-2003, 01:05 PM

Ventura to the Dodgers in exchange for their best minor leaguers... I do not approve

BadForm · 07-31-2003, 02:22 PM

Link to a list of today's trades

The Red Sox add Suppan and some relief picture from the Pirates for a decent infield prospect Freddy Sanchez. So who is left on the Pirates after all their trades?

Kansas City made a non-dump trade at the deadline!! I am glad another of the small market teams is actually trying to improve themselves and maybe make a run at the big spenders. In the deal, they picked up Al Levine from Tampa for cash

I don't know anything about the Dodgers prospects, but if they are any good that was a really stupid trade. They are 13 games out of first and have to move ahead of four other teams to get the wild card. Plus Chicago, Colorado, and Montreal are right there with them. Ventura is just no going to make enough of a difference to pass that many teams. A-rod probably would not have been enough.

Glory's Sun · 07-31-2003, 02:33 PM

I like the Boston trade.. I think it will certainly help us. Suppan has been pitching really well as of late..hopefully he'll keep it up.

The Ventura deal is good for the Yanks but it sucks for the Dodgers. Aaron Boone is certainly going to help NY. They did however get rid of one of the top prospects in the entire A ball league. Claussen will be a big time player....so we'll have to wait and see how this trade works out. Hopefully it will hurt the Yankees

BadForm · 07-31-2003, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by guccilvr
I like the Boston trade.. I think it will certainly help us. Suppan has been pitching really well as of late..hopefully he'll keep it up.

What do you know about Sanchez? At one time, I thought he was considered one of the Sox top prospects, but I have not followed them much in the last year or so.

Didn't Suppan originally start out with the Red Sox (or am I thinking of someone else)?

djtestudo · 07-31-2003, 03:17 PM

Suppan was in the Sox system originally, and made his debut with them. As for Sanchez, He was still one of their top prospects.

Who'd Ventura get traded for? I agree that anything of worth would've been stupid.

fearofmear · 07-31-2003, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BadForm
What do you know about Sanchez? At one time, I thought he was considered one of the Sox top prospects, but I have not followed them much in the last year or so.

Didn't Suppan originally start out with the Red Sox (or am I thinking of someone else)?

Peter Gammons on SC called Sanchez one of the Red Sox two best prospects.

BadForm · 07-31-2003, 03:45 PM

Seems like a lot to give up for Suppan. This is just the first good year he has ever had. Last year he had a 5.32 era and was 9 -16. I thought the Red Sox had already given up on him once.

djtestudo · 07-31-2003, 04:08 PM

Well, when you're 10-7 w/ a under-4 ERA with the Pirates, you tend to see your vaue increase a little

MikeyChalupa · 07-31-2003, 04:21 PM

I love this. The Yanks and Red Sox have had the best arms race I can remember this year. One team makes a move, the other counters. Each team is built to beat the other. THIS IS HOW BASEBALL SHOULD BE and it's about time the Sox had a GM who understands that. You don't sit back and whine about the Yankees, you use them as motivation to go out and build your own Yankee-killing team. Especially when you are the Red Sox and you have been owned by the Yanks since before Bob Hope could vote. It costs money, but if you aren't willing to spend money, quitcherbitchin and sell your team to someone who WANTS TO WIN. I for one look forward to the best battle for the AL East in years. Theo Epstein (even though I'm older than him) is a worthy competitor.

-Mikey

Glory's Sun · 07-31-2003, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MikeyChalupa
I love this. The Yanks and Red Sox have had the best arms race I can remember this year. One team makes a move, the other counters. Each team is built to beat the other. THIS IS HOW BASEBALL SHOULD BE and it's about time the Sox had a GM who understands that. You don't sit back and whine about the Yankees, you use them as motivation to go out and build your own Yankee-killing team. Especially when you are the Red Sox and you have been owned by the Yanks since before Bob Hope could vote. It costs money, but if you aren't willing to spend money, quitcherbitchin and sell your team to someone who WANTS TO WIN. I for one look forward to the best battle for the AL East in years. Theo Epstein (even though I'm older than him) is a worthy competitor.

-Mikey

Hell must be freezing over.. I'm agreeing with Mikey

This should be a good race for sure. like you said each team is built to beat the other.. so anything could happen.. it's going to be so much fun to watch. I just hope I'm the one smiling at the end of it

iceman2032 · 08-01-2003, 08:13 AM

I think the Giants made the best deal to improve their team out of all the trades made yesterday. The Giants offense doesn't really have that many hole right now and pitching has always been a sore spot with them. With the Giants adding a 14 game winner they may have the picthing they need to win the series this year

Glory's Sun · 08-01-2003, 10:11 AM

While the giants do have the firepower and Ponson will help considering he's going to a decent pitchers field.. I don't think the Giants will take it this year. I could be blatently wrong ..but I just don't see it happening. I think Atlanta could beat the Giants and I also think that if the Cards are on their A game and Edmonds is healthy they could take them out of the race. Who knows..this is going to be a good year for baseball.

JoeyB · 08-01-2003, 11:06 AM

Theo Epstein is the Executive of the year. He has given up so very little in the last year and he has Bill Mueller, Kevin Millar, David Ortiz, Scott Williamson, Jeff Suppan, Todd Jones....

Incredible. For the first time since Mike Greenwell patroled the outfield, I'm actually afraid of Boston.

For the past 10 years, I've basically believed 3 things:

The Yankees will do whatever it takes to win
Yankee-bashers will whine about them doing it
Boston will disappoint in a variety of ways

The Yanks are still doing what it takes
The bashers have whined
NOW--Boston is joining the fun and doing whatever it takes to win.

I'm thrilled with the change. If we can have the excitement of 1978, this will be an incredible fall.

Hrothgar · 08-02-2003, 11:32 PM

http://msn.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/s...n/1588274.html

Let's see what happens in the next 50+ games.

MikeyChalupa · 08-04-2003, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JoeyB
I'm thrilled with the change. If we can have the excitement of 1978, this will be an incredible fall.

As long as we have the same ending, I'll be happy

-Mikey

Bobaphat · 08-04-2003, 10:04 AM

All I know is that Pat Gillick and the Mariners have failed us once again.

07-31-2003, 12:38 PM	#1 (permalink)
djtestudo Baltimoron Location: Beeeeeautiful Bel Air, MD	Deadline deals Reds 3b Aaron Boone traded to the Yankees for AAA RHP Brandon Claussen and cash. Orioles RHP Sidney Ponson traded to Giants for LHP Damion Moss and LHP Kurt Ainsworth.

07-31-2003, 01:05 PM	#2 (permalink)
Halx Please touch this. Owner/Admin Location: Manhattan	Ventura to the Dodgers in exchange for their best minor leaguers... I do not approve __________________ You have found this post informative. -The Administrator [Don't Feed The Animals]

07-31-2003, 03:17 PM	#6 (permalink)
djtestudo Baltimoron Location: Beeeeeautiful Bel Air, MD	Suppan was in the Sox system originally, and made his debut with them. As for Sanchez, He was still one of their top prospects. Who'd Ventura get traded for? I agree that anything of worth would've been stupid. __________________ "Final thought: I just rented Michael Moore's Bowling for Columbine. Frankly, it was the worst sports movie I've ever seen." --Peter Schmuck, The (Baltimore) Sun

07-31-2003, 04:08 PM	#9 (permalink)
djtestudo Baltimoron Location: Beeeeeautiful Bel Air, MD	Well, when you're 10-7 w/ a under-4 ERA with the Pirates, you tend to see your vaue increase a little __________________ "Final thought: I just rented Michael Moore's Bowling for Columbine. Frankly, it was the worst sports movie I've ever seen." --Peter Schmuck, The (Baltimore) Sun

08-01-2003, 11:06 AM	#14 (permalink)
JoeyB feeling tingly	Theo Epstein is the Executive of the year. He has given up so very little in the last year and he has Bill Mueller, Kevin Millar, David Ortiz, Scott Williamson, Jeff Suppan, Todd Jones.... Incredible. For the first time since Mike Greenwell patroled the outfield, I'm actually afraid of Boston. For the past 10 years, I've basically believed 3 things: The Yankees will do whatever it takes to win Yankee-bashers will whine about them doing it Boston will disappoint in a variety of ways The Yanks are still doing what it takes The bashers have whined NOW--Boston is joining the fun and doing whatever it takes to win. I'm thrilled with the change. If we can have the excitement of 1978, this will be an incredible fall. __________________ My mom is a Diamondbacks fan. She really likes the Big Unit

07-31-2003, 02:22 PM	#3 (permalink)
BadForm Crazy Location: In an office with no windows	Link to a list of today's trades The Red Sox add Suppan and some relief picture from the Pirates for a decent infield prospect Freddy Sanchez. So who is left on the Pirates after all their trades? Kansas City made a non-dump trade at the deadline!! I am glad another of the small market teams is actually trying to improve themselves and maybe make a run at the big spenders. In the deal, they picked up Al Levine from Tampa for cash I don't know anything about the Dodgers prospects, but if they are any good that was a really stupid trade. They are 13 games out of first and have to move ahead of four other teams to get the wild card. Plus Chicago, Colorado, and Montreal are right there with them. Ventura is just no going to make enough of a difference to pass that many teams. A-rod probably would not have been enough.

07-31-2003, 02:33 PM	#4 (permalink)
Glory's Sun Registered User	I like the Boston trade.. I think it will certainly help us. Suppan has been pitching really well as of late..hopefully he'll keep it up. The Ventura deal is good for the Yanks but it sucks for the Dodgers. Aaron Boone is certainly going to help NY. They did however get rid of one of the top prospects in the entire A ball league. Claussen will be a big time player....so we'll have to wait and see how this trade works out. Hopefully it will hurt the Yankees

07-31-2003, 03:45 PM	#8 (permalink)
BadForm Crazy Location: In an office with no windows	Seems like a lot to give up for Suppan. This is just the first good year he has ever had. Last year he had a 5.32 era and was 9 -16. I thought the Red Sox had already given up on him once.

07-31-2003, 04:21 PM	#10 (permalink)
MikeyChalupa Squid Location: USS George Washington	I love this. The Yanks and Red Sox have had the best arms race I can remember this year. One team makes a move, the other counters. Each team is built to beat the other. THIS IS HOW BASEBALL SHOULD BE and it's about time the Sox had a GM who understands that. You don't sit back and whine about the Yankees, you use them as motivation to go out and build your own Yankee-killing team. Especially when you are the Red Sox and you have been owned by the Yanks since before Bob Hope could vote. It costs money, but if you aren't willing to spend money, quitcherbitchin and sell your team to someone who WANTS TO WIN. I for one look forward to the best battle for the AL East in years. Theo Epstein (even though I'm older than him) is a worthy competitor. -Mikey

08-01-2003, 08:13 AM	#12 (permalink)
iceman2032 Crazy	I think the Giants made the best deal to improve their team out of all the trades made yesterday. The Giants offense doesn't really have that many hole right now and pitching has always been a sore spot with them. With the Giants adding a 14 game winner they may have the picthing they need to win the series this year

08-01-2003, 10:11 AM	#13 (permalink)
Glory's Sun Registered User	While the giants do have the firepower and Ponson will help considering he's going to a decent pitchers field.. I don't think the Giants will take it this year. I could be blatently wrong ..but I just don't see it happening. I think Atlanta could beat the Giants and I also think that if the Cards are on their A game and Edmonds is healthy they could take them out of the race. Who knows..this is going to be a good year for baseball.

08-02-2003, 11:32 PM	#15 (permalink)
Hrothgar He's My Girl Location: The Champagne Douche	http://msn.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/s...n/1588274.html Let's see what happens in the next 50+ games. __________________ The fortunes of war favored Hrothgar.

08-04-2003, 10:04 AM	#17 (permalink)
Bobaphat whoopity doo Location: Seattle	All I know is that Pat Gillick and the Mariners have failed us once again. __________________ --size matters not-- yoda