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Nikilidstrom · 11-05-2010, 02:25 PM

To be fair, Campbell was not involved in this decision, and Thornton and the Sharks are looking to appeal on those grounds. He was traveling somewhere and was not involved in the call. Hopefully his plane crashed, or he was stoned to death by the locals immediately after landing.

Again, its an all-shoulder hit, no charging or leaving his feet, and its not late. This is another reaction call, which, like the Meszaros hit, is fucking hilarious because Perron not only gets up right after Thornton goes to the box, but he comes out and scores the game winning goal. He should be thanking Big Joe for knocking some talent into him.

Hopefully this some how gets overturned on appeal. Our only other hope is, like most fad rules, the refs get lazy and stop calling it after a year or so.

On a side note, what the fuck is up with all these shutouts? I remember when a shutout was so rare, you didn't dare speak of it lest you jinx your chance of seeing it for that year. Now they are so common its almost a forgone conclusion in some games. My guess is that with the way the game is being called nowadays, the talent level is so watered down in the NHL, all you have to do is be able to skate well and you have a roster spot. There are very few go to players who you know can just wreck a goalie's night. Hell, even Ovechkin is struggling to score early in the season.

silent_jay · 11-05-2010, 04:00 PM

Nikilidstrom · 11-06-2010, 08:41 AM

I'm glad you jumped on the Kovalchuk/Parise land mine before I did, because I was going to grab one or the other right after you. Unfortunately, I still stepped in a pile of Marc-Andre Fluery.

silent_jay · 11-06-2010, 04:51 PM

Nikilidstrom · 11-07-2010, 07:46 AM

This is exactly why a challenge flag won't work in the NHL. The league is going to do whatever it damn well pleases, with no regards to the integrity of the game.

silent_jay · 11-08-2010, 04:27 PM

Nikilidstrom · 11-09-2010, 02:13 PM

I've been watching some KHL games now that Xbox has the ESPN360 on demand. They have mostly been agonizingly slow and low impact. I hope North American leagues aren't trying to emulate that. Not sure what rules are being used for the series (NA or European) but I would bet that if its international refs you are going to get alot of bullshit calls like that.

silent_jay · 11-10-2010, 12:02 PM

Nikilidstrom · 11-10-2010, 04:53 PM

Yeah, I was watching that game about a week ago or so, that was a brutal hit. Definitely a charging which I think is the penalty he got for that, but man did Martin leave himself in a bad position. Thats the play where players usually get their shoulder seperated, when they are hit reaching for the puck. Hope he can make a full recovery, thats probably going reqiure fusing some vertebrae, which usually doesn't go too well with playing sports.

silent_jay · 11-10-2010, 05:57 PM

silent_jay · 11-15-2010, 11:03 AM

Nikilidstrom · 11-15-2010, 02:58 PM

Clean hit, and I really don't have any problem with how the fight went down. It never looked to me like Avery backed down, he was waiting to see what was happening with the play, and Smid never let his guard down, and barely took his eyes off of him, so no sucker punch. Smid just wasn't fast enough on the draw.

Not that I give 2 shits about Avery, would have been just as well if he got his ass handed to him.

Anywho, no suspensions issued on this one, and only Dubinsky was fined for grabbing a guy while on the bench. Campbell was too busy dealing with his own steaming pile to worry about actually doing his job.

That Campbell is a classy guy.

silent_jay · 11-15-2010, 03:35 PM

Nikilidstrom · 11-16-2010, 02:56 PM

Its a good ol' boy network pure and simple. No qualifications, no good ideas, just have to be one of the guys. Same way the US government is run, and look how well thats working out.

Leto · 11-17-2010, 06:15 AM

I was at my boy's game last night (they lost their first game of the season 4-2 with an empty netter) where he got a goal called back because the ref didn't see it under the goalies glove. I checked my blackberry for the score in the Leafs - Preds game, which the Leafs were losing in typically spectacular fashion 3-0 in the first period. I didn't bother checking again as the live Bantam tilt going on in front of me was more engaging.

Imagine my surprise when got home to find out that the good old boys in Blue&white had tied up the Preds 4 - 4. they went on to win 5-4.

4 power play goals. Clarke MacArthur assisting on 3 goals in 1 period. I gotta say that picking up this guy was a steal. And Versteeg with two goals in 59 seconds. this was a weird game with a decent outcome.

This is the winning entry of the Leafs Haiku contest:

The cut runs so deep
Since Nineteen Sixty Seven
We’ll parade in hell

Nikilidstrom · 11-17-2010, 02:40 PM

That was a ridiculous game with 6 straight penalties called on Nashville, and 8 of 10, including two 5 on 3's. Someone upstairs got sick of the Leafs embarrasing themselves.

L_Driver · 11-17-2010, 04:00 PM

I have a love for my original home team the Detroit Red Wings, but since moving to the DC area I have appreciated the Caps. I say this is legal because they are in 2 different conferences and rarely play each other (let's face it, besides the one game in the season it would only happen in the playoffs and the Caps are too young of a team to make it that far, yet).

Leto · 11-18-2010, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Nikilidstrom

That was a ridiculous game with 6 straight penalties called on Nashville, and 8 of 10, including two 5 on 3's. Someone upstairs got sick of the Leafs embarrasing themselves.

word

silent_jay · 11-18-2010, 12:26 PM

silent_jay · 11-19-2010, 04:09 PM

RIP Pat, thanks for the great memories. Still can't believe they never put Burnsy in the Hall before he passed, one of the great mistakes of hockey.

Quote:

Pat Burns, one of the most successful NHL coaches of the past 20 years, died Friday after a lengthy battle with cancer. He was 58.

During his 14-year NHL coaching career, Burns posted a 501-353-151-14 record in 1,019 games behind the bench of the Montreal Canadiens, Toronto Maple Leafs, Boston Bruins and New Jersey Devils.

Burns won the Stanley Cup with the Devils in 2003, and is the only person in league history to win three Jack Adams Trophies, awarded to the NHL's coach of the year.

"Just as they will remember Pat for his success as a coach, hockey fans also will remember his humour, his honesty, his humanity and his courage. As it mourns the loss of an outstanding contributor to the game, the National Hockey League sends heartfelt condolences to Pat's family and friends," NHL commissioner Gary Bettman said in a statement.

A former police officer from Gatineau, Que., known for his passion and fieriness, Burns took over as coach of the Habs in 1988 after serving as the bench boss of the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League's Hull Olympiques and the Sherbrooke Canadiens of the American Hockey League.

Within a year of his arrival, Montreal was playing in the Stanley Cup final, and even though the Habs lost to the Calgary Flames in six games, Burns's star was on the rise as he won the Jack Adams Trophy at the end of the season.

His next port of call was Toronto, where he made an immediate impact, guiding the Maple Leafs to the 1993 conference finals and winning another Jack Adams Trophy in his first campaign with the club.

Burns and the Leafs made the Conference finals the next year, but he was fired during the 1995-96 season.

Burns wasn't out of work for long, as he landed the head-coaching job with the Bruins, and won an unprecedented third Jack Adams award in 1998. Success in Boston was fleeting — the Bruins bowed out of the playoffs in each of his first two seasons with the club, and they didn't even manage to qualify for the playoffs in 2000.

A poor start to the 2000-01 campaign resulted in his being fired after only eight games, but Burns had the last laugh as coach of New Jersey, guiding the Devils past the Bruins in the first round of the 2003 playoffs en route to winning the Stanley Cup.

Burns was on top of the hockey world, but his career took a life-altering direction following the 2003-04 season when he was forced to step down as coach of the Devils after being diagnosed with colon cancer.

He survived the colon cancer but was diagnosed with liver cancer the following year. Once again, he beat it and everything appeared to be back to normal in his life.

But in 2009, Burns revealed he had been diagnosed with cancer for a third time, this time lung cancer.

During the last years of his life, Burns lived in Florida, where he attended NHL games in Tampa Bay as a consultant for the Devils. He credited his wife Lynne for helping him win his cancer battles, and always stressed that he didn't want hockey fans to pity him.

"I don't want anybody feeling sorry for me. I've had a great life, I've had an enjoyable life, I've had some fun," Burns told Scott Morrison of Hockey Night in Canada in 2009.

"I've been lucky to be part of one of the greatest sports around [and] the National Hockey League."

Former NHL coach Pat Burns dies

Nikilidstrom · 11-20-2010, 08:22 AM

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RIP Pat, thanks for the great memories. Still can't believe they never put Burnsy in the Hall before he passed, one of the great mistakes of hockey.[/url]

Agreed. Glad they went with the publicity stunt of adding women this year instead. Stay classy NHL.

Fly · 11-20-2010, 09:35 AM

great thread guys.gonna have to stop in more often.

oh and...........Canucks?

we got a chance this year or what?

love to hear what you guys think.

silent_jay · 11-20-2010, 10:13 AM

Nikilidstrom · 11-21-2010, 08:29 AM

They just got dismantled last night by Chicago with the back up tender in. They definitely have a confidence problem when it comes to the Hawks.

Fly · 11-21-2010, 09:48 AM

WTF kinda hockey was that?????...........Blowongo chased after 2 periods and 4 goals.........then Schneider gives up a bunch..........what a fucking sad game that was.

maybe they will pull their heads outta their asses and redeem themselves tonight.

silent_jay · 11-21-2010, 11:01 AM

Hektore · 11-22-2010, 03:13 PM

11/19 Pens vs Canes, pens 4th goal. Skip ahead to 1:08

Anybody catch this? The ref very clearly shook his head no goal and was then overruled on the review, here is the overhead with sound:

YouTube - Pens 4th goal vs Canes 11/19/2010

Seems to me the whistle blows before the puck crosses the line, do they not get sound in Toronto or did I miss something or is it too close to call? - If the last is the case, how does it overrule the on Ice call?

silent_jay · 11-22-2010, 06:50 PM

Nikilidstrom · 11-23-2010, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Hektore

11/19 Pens vs Canes, pens 4th goal. Skip ahead to 1:08

Seems to me the whistle blows before the puck crosses the line, do they not get sound in Toronto or did I miss something or is it too close to call? - If the last is the case, how does it overrule the on Ice call?

I call that the Crosby effect. I've seen that same play kill a goal in dozens of games just because the ref intended to blow the whistle, much less when he actually did. But the league (read: Bettman) loves Crosby, and by proxy the Penguins, and will do anything to get them winning.

And as far the Staal/Stajan hit, I can't go with you on this one. The slowmo clearly shows Staal bending down and then exploding into Stajan's head with the shoulder and upper arm. If he had simply skated through Stajan body to body, or even hip checked him, thats a great hit. But in my opinion, he was going for Stajan's head all the way. But Stajan certainly didn't help matters by ogglin his own pass.

Either way, Staal's not getting anything from the league on this one.

silent_jay · 11-30-2010, 03:30 PM

Nikilidstrom · 11-30-2010, 03:45 PM

That's definitely pretty low, considering whoever it was knew for sure who they were stealing from. Nothing like kicking someone while they are down.

cameroncrazy822 · 12-08-2010, 09:34 AM

Ravens need to get that offense going or they will do squat in the playoffs... that is iif they even get to the playoffs

silent_jay · 12-08-2010, 10:15 AM

Leto · 12-08-2010, 11:34 AM

the Baltimore Colts? No wait that was the CFL.....

---------- Post added at 02:34 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:29 PM ----------

Can you say spinorama?

Jason Blake - 2008:

YouTube - Jason Blake Shootout Spinorama Goal - 12/16/2008

M. Grabovsky - 2010:
@ 1:46

YouTube - Shootout - Toronto Maple Leafs Vs Washington Capitals - December 6th 2010

Leto · 12-10-2010, 06:05 AM

Not the NHL ... but nothing like a hockey fight to start off the day: This was in the news last night - a fight on a non-call in a British league - note the accents. Very quaint:

Nottingham Panthers v Coventry Blaze bench clearance 04/12/2010

YouTube - Nottingham Panthers v Coventry Blaze bench clearance 04/12/2010

silent_jay · 12-10-2010, 09:41 AM

Leto · 12-10-2010, 01:05 PM

From one of the oldest to the youngest... there's no balance. Fans were booing again last night. Meanwhile fricken Habs fans are strutting around the office today in MTL hockey sweaters.... grrrr.

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Nikilidstrom Stick it in your five hole! Location: Michigan, USA	To be fair, Campbell was not involved in this decision, and Thornton and the Sharks are looking to appeal on those grounds. He was traveling somewhere and was not involved in the call. Hopefully his plane crashed, or he was stoned to death by the locals immediately after landing. Again, its an all-shoulder hit, no charging or leaving his feet, and its not late. This is another reaction call, which, like the Meszaros hit, is fucking hilarious because Perron not only gets up right after Thornton goes to the box, but he comes out and scores the game winning goal. He should be thanking Big Joe for knocking some talent into him. Hopefully this some how gets overturned on appeal. Our only other hope is, like most fad rules, the refs get lazy and stop calling it after a year or so. On a side note, what the fuck is up with all these shutouts? I remember when a shutout was so rare, you didn't dare speak of it lest you jinx your chance of seeing it for that year. Now they are so common its almost a forgone conclusion in some games. My guess is that with the way the game is being called nowadays, the talent level is so watered down in the NHL, all you have to do is be able to skate well and you have a roster spot. There are very few go to players who you know can just wreck a goalie's night. Hell, even Ovechkin is struggling to score early in the season.

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Nikilidstrom Stick it in your five hole! Location: Michigan, USA	I'm glad you jumped on the Kovalchuk/Parise land mine before I did, because I was going to grab one or the other right after you. Unfortunately, I still stepped in a pile of Marc-Andre Fluery.

11-07-2010, 07:46 AM	#48 (permalink)
Nikilidstrom Stick it in your five hole! Location: Michigan, USA	This is exactly why a challenge flag won't work in the NHL. The league is going to do whatever it damn well pleases, with no regards to the integrity of the game.

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11-09-2010, 02:13 PM	#50 (permalink)
Nikilidstrom Stick it in your five hole! Location: Michigan, USA	I've been watching some KHL games now that Xbox has the ESPN360 on demand. They have mostly been agonizingly slow and low impact. I hope North American leagues aren't trying to emulate that. Not sure what rules are being used for the series (NA or European) but I would bet that if its international refs you are going to get alot of bullshit calls like that.

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11-10-2010, 04:53 PM	#52 (permalink)
Nikilidstrom Stick it in your five hole! Location: Michigan, USA	Yeah, I was watching that game about a week ago or so, that was a brutal hit. Definitely a charging which I think is the penalty he got for that, but man did Martin leave himself in a bad position. Thats the play where players usually get their shoulder seperated, when they are hit reaching for the puck. Hope he can make a full recovery, thats probably going reqiure fusing some vertebrae, which usually doesn't go too well with playing sports.

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11-15-2010, 02:58 PM	#55 (permalink)
Nikilidstrom Stick it in your five hole! Location: Michigan, USA	Clean hit, and I really don't have any problem with how the fight went down. It never looked to me like Avery backed down, he was waiting to see what was happening with the play, and Smid never let his guard down, and barely took his eyes off of him, so no sucker punch. Smid just wasn't fast enough on the draw. Not that I give 2 shits about Avery, would have been just as well if he got his ass handed to him. Anywho, no suspensions issued on this one, and only Dubinsky was fined for grabbing a guy while on the bench. Campbell was too busy dealing with his own steaming pile to worry about actually doing his job. That Campbell is a classy guy.

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11-16-2010, 02:56 PM	#57 (permalink)
Nikilidstrom Stick it in your five hole! Location: Michigan, USA	Its a good ol' boy network pure and simple. No qualifications, no good ideas, just have to be one of the guys. Same way the US government is run, and look how well thats working out.

11-17-2010, 06:15 AM	#58 (permalink)
Leto Junkie Location: The Danforth	I was at my boy's game last night (they lost their first game of the season 4-2 with an empty netter) where he got a goal called back because the ref didn't see it under the goalies glove. I checked my blackberry for the score in the Leafs - Preds game, which the Leafs were losing in typically spectacular fashion 3-0 in the first period. I didn't bother checking again as the live Bantam tilt going on in front of me was more engaging. Imagine my surprise when got home to find out that the good old boys in Blue&white had tied up the Preds 4 - 4. they went on to win 5-4. 4 power play goals. Clarke MacArthur assisting on 3 goals in 1 period. I gotta say that picking up this guy was a steal. And Versteeg with two goals in 59 seconds. this was a weird game with a decent outcome. This is the winning entry of the Leafs Haiku contest: The cut runs so deep Since Nineteen Sixty Seven We’ll parade in hell __________________ You said you didn't give a fuck about hockey And I never saw someone say that before You held my hand and we walked home the long way You were loosening my grip on Bobby Orr http://dune.wikia.com/wiki/Leto_Atreides_I Last edited by Leto; 11-17-2010 at 06:17 AM..

11-17-2010, 02:40 PM	#59 (permalink)
Nikilidstrom Stick it in your five hole! Location: Michigan, USA	That was a ridiculous game with 6 straight penalties called on Nashville, and 8 of 10, including two 5 on 3's. Someone upstairs got sick of the Leafs embarrasing themselves.

11-17-2010, 04:00 PM	#60 (permalink)
L_Driver Upright Location: Washington, DC	I have a love for my original home team the Detroit Red Wings, but since moving to the DC area I have appreciated the Caps. I say this is legal because they are in 2 different conferences and rarely play each other (let's face it, besides the one game in the season it would only happen in the playoffs and the Caps are too young of a team to make it that far, yet).

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Fly see the links to my music? Location: Beautiful British Columbia	great thread guys.gonna have to stop in more often. oh and...........Canucks? we got a chance this year or what? love to hear what you guys think. __________________ BASTARD SterlingStudios

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11-21-2010, 08:29 AM	#67 (permalink)
Nikilidstrom Stick it in your five hole! Location: Michigan, USA	They just got dismantled last night by Chicago with the back up tender in. They definitely have a confidence problem when it comes to the Hawks.

11-21-2010, 09:48 AM	#68 (permalink)
Fly see the links to my music? Location: Beautiful British Columbia	WTF kinda hockey was that?????...........Blowongo chased after 2 periods and 4 goals.........then Schneider gives up a bunch..........what a fucking sad game that was. maybe they will pull their heads outta their asses and redeem themselves tonight. __________________ BASTARD SterlingStudios

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11-30-2010, 03:45 PM	#74 (permalink)
Nikilidstrom Stick it in your five hole! Location: Michigan, USA	That's definitely pretty low, considering whoever it was knew for sure who they were stealing from. Nothing like kicking someone while they are down.

12-08-2010, 09:34 AM	#75 (permalink)
cameroncrazy822 Junkie Location: MD	Ravens need to get that offense going or they will do squat in the playoffs... that is iif they even get to the playoffs

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Leto Junkie Location: The Danforth	From one of the oldest to the youngest... there's no balance. Fans were booing again last night. Meanwhile fricken Habs fans are strutting around the office today in MTL hockey sweaters.... grrrr. __________________ You said you didn't give a fuck about hockey And I never saw someone say that before You held my hand and we walked home the long way You were loosening my grip on Bobby Orr http://dune.wikia.com/wiki/Leto_Atreides_I