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high_jinx · 08-06-2009, 01:11 PM

I have a dilemna!

here are my potential keepers...

T. Brady,
DeSean Jackson,
Maurice Jones-Drew,
Sammy Morris,
Randy Moss,
Steve Smith,
Pierre Thomas,
Michael Turner,
Lendale White

it's a 10 team league, h2h, and we get 3 keepers.

So... 2 years ago, i won with the ol' brady to moss combo and loved it! but i could also go the RB route this year and do pretty good btwn turner, morris, and either pierre or white, who i heard dropped 30 lb's!

any opinions ? thanks!!!

MontanaXVI · 08-06-2009, 01:22 PM

Wow,

3 keepers from that team?!

I like to do 2 keepers in my league with no more than one per position.

With your team though I personally would lean towards MJD, Turner and Moss

That would arguably give you 2 of the top 3 RB as well as a top 3 WR. VERY hard to beat that start to a great team.

POHP · 08-06-2009, 01:51 PM

Depends on how your league scores.
Off hand,
Brady
Turner
Moss
Smith

In that order, IMO. Kinda depends if you get points on RB receptions.
Brady scored 50 TDs his last year playing.
Turner is a TD machine that's getting better on an improving team.
Moss will garner alot of those Brady TDs, plus new RB and Galloway will relieve double teams.
Smith is consistent, but who's opposite him again?

Cross-Over · 08-14-2009, 09:24 AM

Jones-Drew, Turner, and Brady.

high_jinx · 08-14-2009, 12:15 PM

thanks guys... the prevailing theory seems to be for MJD, turner, and brady. i'm starting to agree, thinking that since there's only 2 teams without keepers that i might get Moss for my first actual pick. it's tough to forget how awesome it was having brady/moss a couple years ago. anyway, the deadline is wed, so ill keep checking here for any 11th hour advice and let you know then what i went with.

Jetée · 08-14-2009, 12:43 PM

I think you should keep MJD/Turner inherently because both are top-5 consensus picks, (although for my tastes, I'd rather avoid Turner if possible, something in my gut is just not clicking with him).

For your third keeper, I think you are left with a choice of either Smith/Moss/Brady, based on average, that all three of these players will be unavailable in normal drafts once the third round starts.

It truly depends on whichever player you truly think will breakout once again and/or duplicate the success they had a season ago (Tom's case, 2007), and you wouldn't mind having them on your roster for another go-around. I like to shuffle my cards around, but in the keeper league I'm in, I chose to keep Fitz, A. Johnson, & Megatron, 3 elite receivers that I trust to net me at least a solid 10-11 points week-in, week-out (instead of choosing among a Clinton/Gore combo, Warner, Cassel, B. Marshall, D. Bowe, or Pierre Thomas, and the Steelers/Ravens Ds)

If it were me, I'd keep Moss instead of Brady or Smith, just because Moss is going at an ADP right now of around 11-15, right after Andre and Calvin Johnson, and before Westbrook and Jacobs. Moss is a higher commodity. If you are lucky, and get a good draft position once again this season, you can pick Brady back up if you want, but there are certainly other choices that can suit you if Brady is out of play once it comes back to you.

Do you happen to have a list of everyone else's keepers, and also know what draft position you will have this year? This way, you can cross off the top names that are unavailable when drafting, and what talent pool is still left, so you at least have an idea if Tom Brady or Steve Smith will go with the 5th pick of the draft, or the 12th. Best of luck.

high_jinx · 08-18-2009, 01:58 PM

thanks for the detailed response jetee... without going into names, i know we have a 10 team league, with 8 teams that have keepers and 2 new ones, so my 1st actual pick will be 30+.

today i announced my keepers,and indeed, it was moss along with turner and mjd.

there's one interesting wrinkle.... another team in my league is offering up frank gore or chris johnson for either moss or mjd from me. i'm not letting mjd go, but i am tempted to do it for moss, and then i'd arguably have 3 of the league's top 5 rb's. i'm pondering that over the next couple days, so let me know what you guys think and i'll update you all on thur or fri.

edit- i'm not 100% on pick order, but i did finish top 4 last year, so i figure i'll be at the end of the chain... probably first pick being 36 ish.

high_jinx · 08-28-2009, 09:10 AM

UGH i hated that draft. i never picked from the middle before, and it sucks. i kept getting outreached by 3 or 4 picks, especially for my WR's. anyway here's my team...

MJD
Moss
Turner
Romo
Witten
Lee Evans
Jerico Cotchery
Lendale White
Devin Hester
Willis Mcgahee
Minnesota def

And some riff raff i'll probably cut. i'm pretty quick with the waiver wire so hopefully i'll be able to pull some magic off sooner than later, otherwise i might be forced to do a 2 for one trade from one of my studs.

anyway thanks much for the input yall

Jetée · 08-28-2009, 09:36 AM

No problem.

I actually like Jerricho Cotchery this year for the sole reason that he is the only reliable and viable known threat in the passing game. Leon Washington as well... I am targeting him early depending on the available format, as he is a PPR/return dynamo.

If your format allows for a flex RB/WR, I would most certainly target a more dependable RB3, evaluating whom on your team can get you a respectable return via trade, because Turner is not a certainty to duplicate his numbers from last year, and while Lendale can shuffle across 3 yards as good as good anyone, those plays aren't as valuable unless he is within 5 of the goal line.

high_jinx · 08-28-2009, 11:35 AM

we actually have several flex spots. 1 wr/te and 2 wr/rb. 1 too many if you ask me but i guess everyone will struggle. turner would be the stud i'd trade if i had to, but i'm actually looking for good things from lendale. he showed up to camp 6 months sober and 30 lb's lighter and said it was from quitting patron, so i'm betting he gets slightly more carries this year than his co-rb, johnson... i hope anyway. its comforting to hear what you said about cotchery... he was lingering all the way to my 11th or 12th pick and i DO like sanchez as a sleeper Qb, so i was hoping that would all work out.

08-06-2009, 01:11 PM	#1 (permalink)
high_jinx Psycho Location: venice beach, ca	Help me with my Fantasy Football keepers I have a dilemna! here are my potential keepers... T. Brady, DeSean Jackson, Maurice Jones-Drew, Sammy Morris, Randy Moss, Steve Smith, Pierre Thomas, Michael Turner, Lendale White it's a 10 team league, h2h, and we get 3 keepers. So... 2 years ago, i won with the ol' brady to moss combo and loved it! but i could also go the RB route this year and do pretty good btwn turner, morris, and either pierre or white, who i heard dropped 30 lb's! any opinions ? thanks!!! __________________ -my phobia drowned while i was gettin down.

08-06-2009, 01:22 PM	#2 (permalink)
MontanaXVI Junkie Location: Go A's!!!!	Wow, 3 keepers from that team?! I like to do 2 keepers in my league with no more than one per position. With your team though I personally would lean towards MJD, Turner and Moss That would arguably give you 2 of the top 3 RB as well as a top 3 WR. VERY hard to beat that start to a great team. __________________ Spank you very much

08-06-2009, 01:51 PM	#3 (permalink)
POHP Upright Location: Dallas	Depends on how your league scores. Off hand, Brady Turner Moss Smith In that order, IMO. Kinda depends if you get points on RB receptions. Brady scored 50 TDs his last year playing. Turner is a TD machine that's getting better on an improving team. Moss will garner alot of those Brady TDs, plus new RB and Galloway will relieve double teams. Smith is consistent, but who's opposite him again? __________________ Diagonally parked in a parellel universe

08-14-2009, 12:15 PM	#5 (permalink)
high_jinx Psycho Location: venice beach, ca	thanks guys... the prevailing theory seems to be for MJD, turner, and brady. i'm starting to agree, thinking that since there's only 2 teams without keepers that i might get Moss for my first actual pick. it's tough to forget how awesome it was having brady/moss a couple years ago. anyway, the deadline is wed, so ill keep checking here for any 11th hour advice and let you know then what i went with. __________________ -my phobia drowned while i was gettin down.

08-14-2009, 12:43 PM	#6 (permalink)
Jetée The Reforms Location: Rarely, if ever, here or there, but always in transition	I think you should keep MJD/Turner inherently because both are top-5 consensus picks, (although for my tastes, I'd rather avoid Turner if possible, something in my gut is just not clicking with him). For your third keeper, I think you are left with a choice of either Smith/Moss/Brady, based on average, that all three of these players will be unavailable in normal drafts once the third round starts. It truly depends on whichever player you truly think will breakout once again and/or duplicate the success they had a season ago (Tom's case, 2007), and you wouldn't mind having them on your roster for another go-around. I like to shuffle my cards around, but in the keeper league I'm in, I chose to keep Fitz, A. Johnson, & Megatron, 3 elite receivers that I trust to net me at least a solid 10-11 points week-in, week-out (instead of choosing among a Clinton/Gore combo, Warner, Cassel, B. Marshall, D. Bowe, or Pierre Thomas, and the Steelers/Ravens Ds) If it were me, I'd keep Moss instead of Brady or Smith, just because Moss is going at an ADP right now of around 11-15, right after Andre and Calvin Johnson, and before Westbrook and Jacobs. Moss is a higher commodity. If you are lucky, and get a good draft position once again this season, you can pick Brady back up if you want, but there are certainly other choices that can suit you if Brady is out of play once it comes back to you. Do you happen to have a list of everyone else's keepers, and also know what draft position you will have this year? This way, you can cross off the top names that are unavailable when drafting, and what talent pool is still left, so you at least have an idea if Tom Brady or Steve Smith will go with the 5th pick of the draft, or the 12th. Best of luck. __________________ As human beings, our greatness lies not so much in being able to remake the world (that is the myth of the Atomic Age) as in being able to remake ourselves. —Mohandas K. Gandhi

08-14-2009, 09:24 AM	#4 (permalink)
Cross-Over Psycho	Jones-Drew, Turner, and Brady.

08-18-2009, 01:58 PM	#7 (permalink)
high_jinx Psycho Location: venice beach, ca	thanks for the detailed response jetee... without going into names, i know we have a 10 team league, with 8 teams that have keepers and 2 new ones, so my 1st actual pick will be 30+. today i announced my keepers,and indeed, it was moss along with turner and mjd. there's one interesting wrinkle.... another team in my league is offering up frank gore or chris johnson for either moss or mjd from me. i'm not letting mjd go, but i am tempted to do it for moss, and then i'd arguably have 3 of the league's top 5 rb's. i'm pondering that over the next couple days, so let me know what you guys think and i'll update you all on thur or fri. edit- i'm not 100% on pick order, but i did finish top 4 last year, so i figure i'll be at the end of the chain... probably first pick being 36 ish. __________________ -my phobia drowned while i was gettin down.

08-28-2009, 09:10 AM	#8 (permalink)
high_jinx Psycho Location: venice beach, ca	UGH i hated that draft. i never picked from the middle before, and it sucks. i kept getting outreached by 3 or 4 picks, especially for my WR's. anyway here's my team... MJD Moss Turner Romo Witten Lee Evans Jerico Cotchery Lendale White Devin Hester Willis Mcgahee Minnesota def And some riff raff i'll probably cut. i'm pretty quick with the waiver wire so hopefully i'll be able to pull some magic off sooner than later, otherwise i might be forced to do a 2 for one trade from one of my studs. anyway thanks much for the input yall __________________ -my phobia drowned while i was gettin down.

08-28-2009, 09:36 AM	#9 (permalink)
Jetée The Reforms Location: Rarely, if ever, here or there, but always in transition	No problem. I actually like Jerricho Cotchery this year for the sole reason that he is the only reliable and viable known threat in the passing game. Leon Washington as well... I am targeting him early depending on the available format, as he is a PPR/return dynamo. If your format allows for a flex RB/WR, I would most certainly target a more dependable RB3, evaluating whom on your team can get you a respectable return via trade, because Turner is not a certainty to duplicate his numbers from last year, and while Lendale can shuffle across 3 yards as good as good anyone, those plays aren't as valuable unless he is within 5 of the goal line. __________________ As human beings, our greatness lies not so much in being able to remake the world (that is the myth of the Atomic Age) as in being able to remake ourselves. —Mohandas K. Gandhi

08-28-2009, 11:35 AM	#10 (permalink)
high_jinx Psycho Location: venice beach, ca	we actually have several flex spots. 1 wr/te and 2 wr/rb. 1 too many if you ask me but i guess everyone will struggle. turner would be the stud i'd trade if i had to, but i'm actually looking for good things from lendale. he showed up to camp 6 months sober and 30 lb's lighter and said it was from quitting patron, so i'm betting he gets slightly more carries this year than his co-rb, johnson... i hope anyway. its comforting to hear what you said about cotchery... he was lingering all the way to my 11th or 12th pick and i DO like sanchez as a sleeper Qb, so i was hoping that would all work out. __________________ -my phobia drowned while i was gettin down.