Glory's Sun

he should have been thrown off so yeah it would be the equivalent of a red.. although in American football, it's yellow flags for fouls.. not cards.

I can only imagine what Frank Fucking Lampard is thinking if he saw this incident with no dismissal hahaha

Strange Famous

Almost as bad as this from the same game!


Kind of similar in regard to how blatant it was...

I knew that the flags were only for penalties, but I didnt know if there was an equivaleng of the sin bin (as in Rugby or Ice Hockey) - I've probably seem 100 NFL games in my life I guess, and Ive never seen a player sent off/excluded that I can rememer.

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Glory's Sun

it's a rarity that NFL players are sent off, but penalties just have different yard infractions.. so, that penalty would have been a personal foul and 15 minus yards..

About your youtube post, Bosingwa in a lucky boy to not have a card, and then to not have the FA be able to do anything about it because the assistant ref's report has that he saw it. How can Lampard get a straight red for a challenge that didn't even deserve a yellow..and bosingwa(sp?) not get a straight red or 3 match ban for that shit?

even worse.. how or why in the fucks name am I defending a fucking chelski bum??

Leto

That was a decent game. Played almost as exciting as a Grey Cup tilt, except that having that extra down (4 downs) is rather luxurious.

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Locobot

I was watching in Tucson on Comcast at a neighbor's house, but it didn't happen on the hi-def broadcast that we were watching, only the regular-def. It was hilarious watching the granny they got on the local news tonight "I was mortified!"

True, ejections occur more often in college football. NFL players are eligible for major fines (tens of thousands) if they commit personal fouls. The fines have become increasingly more common recently too. Also I think if NFL players are ejected they're automatically eligible for being suspended for the season. The fines are peanuts for most players, but being suspended without pay ends up being a massive amount of lost revenue.

Strange Famous

I think giving someone a season long ban for something like that would be too much, but he shouldnt have been on the field lifting the trophy after what he did, and something like a 2 or 3 match ban would seem fair. And stands to reason he'll be fined, but as you say - when youre making that sort of dough what does it mean to you.

I thought Arizona were unlucky in a way because a couple of key plays (the interception that came back for a TD mostly) made the difference in the end, but Steelers did have more of the game.

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blktour

and to think it is only a game? hehe.

I didn't watch it, nor cared to. But about the roughness with #92, he should have gotten thrown out. there is NO excuse for that type of play.

It is understandable though. To see how the people who WATCH sports get passionate about it, imagine the people who PLAY it. haha

SteelGlider

Did any of you guys actually watch the play with Harrison or just listen to Madden? Harrison doesn't even use a clenched fist....all of the hits are open handed, which are perfectly legal. Watch any punt in any game and you'll find players doing the same type of stuff to keep a guy down or out of the play, it's what they're taught to do. By the way, the Cardinal dove at Harrison's knees, which is not legal, I'm sure that added to his desire to not let him off the turf. There has been NO FINE issued to Harrison after the game either. The only reason there was a flag thrown on the play was because the ref thought he was throwing punches, he wasn't. And listening to Madden overreact to that play is crazy, he was head coach of the 70s Raiders, perhaps the roughest, and cheapest, teams of all time. He'd have a heart attack on the field if any of his head hunters back in the day were ejected in a playoff or super bowl game.

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Incidentally, the league saw fit to fine Holmes for using the ball as a prop. And the media reports constantly on how the officials missed the 15 yard penalty. Yeah, the same media that reports and questions whether the league is too tough on Chad Johnson for all of his childish behavior I guess now wants the biggest game of the year to potentially be affected by a 5 second ball shake after the potentially game winning score in possibly the biggest moment of a young man's life. Um, OK. The NHL is so refreshing to watch when guys like Ovechkin can celebrate great goals (while gesturing with their sticks and everything else) and then have a group celebration immediately right after and not only does everyone not care, they expect it and enjoy it. The NFL though throws out penalties and fines. Um, er, duh. Just imagine if the NHL handed out power plays to the other team because of excessive celebration....pathetic.

By the way, instant replay is killing the NFL. Fans can't cheer big plays anymore because a bunch of guys not at all involved in the play have to stop and discuss it while one stares at a screen under a hood to try and come up with potential reasons why what everyone just saw happen didn't really happen. Go watch some of the old Super Bowls from the 60s and 70s, they flowed so much smoother with fewer stops and without TV announcers who agonized and theorize over every mundane detail.

djtestudo

I'll assume for a second that you are a Steelers fan based on your screen name and the content of your post. If not, let me know and I will gladly apologize for heaping such a terrible insult upon your good name

There is nothing worse than a fan whose team won at least in part because of calls made by an official declaring that the rules should not have been followed.

If you don't like the rules, than do what you can to get them changed. But don't act like because you think they are bad they shouldn't be followed.

If in that final drive the Cardinals had scored quickly and the refs ignored a celebration penalty on the Cardinals that could have placed the Steelers in position for a last-second tying field goal, the city of Pittsburgh would have had an armed insurrection attacking NFL headquarters the next day. Don't even try to deny it.

As for Harrison, look at the .gif file I had found and posted. The very first thing you see is a straight downward punch onto the Cardinal player's shoulder. I really have to question if you actually bothered to watch it.

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SteelGlider

? Declaring the rules should not have been followed? Where did I say that? Just pointing out the hypocrisy in the media. You can't go heavy against the league saying they're too harsh on some guys (i.e. Chad Johnson) during the regular season and then raising complaints about a no call in the Super Bowl. By the way, the refs never saw the celebration that's why there was no flag. Even TV missed it when it happened live. Only on replay was it viewed because it happened so late after the play. Having said that, I think the league needs to lighten up. As a huge fan of football, the games are becoming painful to watch and to listen to with all the second guessing and crying over nothing.





I've seen it several times in Hi Def on the NFL Net's various replays, he hits him with the base of his open hand. Perfectly legal. That's why there was NO FINE. That's right, NO FINE. It's also why there was no open complaints or derision of the play by Cardinal coaches or players after. Only John Madden and those who watch one football game a year and think Madden's word is gospel are upset. That and people who hate the Steelers.

djtestudo

The league definitely needs to lighten up, but that doesn't mean you ignore the rules in place. That's why your hypocrisy argument doesn't hold water; you can dislike the rule while understanding that it needs to be followed. Whether or not it was noticed at the time (and you can't tell me out of all the officials on the field not one saw it as it happened), it definitely lowered the Cardinals' chances for a win.

If Bart Scott did the same thing to a Steeler, he would have been led off the field in handcuffs.

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It doesn't get anymore obvious than that, the ref is walking away with his back to the celebration. So yeah, nobody saw it. You know what really lowered the chances for the Cards win? Giving up an 82 yard drive with just over 2 minutes to go. Oh yeah, and a 100 yard INT return and fumbling on the final play. And, again, I never said anything about ignoring the rule.

OK, obviously you're not up for a serious discussion. Drop the blind hate and fanaticism then I'll discuss the problems of the game with you. Till then, I'm out.