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MontanaXVI · 09-08-2008, 01:23 PM

Updating previous reports for well over the last 24 hours, NE Patriots placed QB Tom Brady on IR with an unspecified knee injury requiring surgery and he will miss the rest of the season.

Couple thoughts I want to weigh in on this one.

1) In typical cheating cock sucker fashion the team HAS NOT officially announced what is wrong with him, only saying in their official press release on the web site:

"After extensive tests this morning, it was revealed that New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady's left knee, which was injured in the first quarter of yesterday's game, will require surgery. He will be placed on injured reserve and will miss the remainder of the 2008 season."

I personally wouldn't have been surprised if they did surgery, and just listed him as questionable each week and never started him, kinda like the BS they pulled with Deion Branch a couple years ago.

2) This is NOT the first person to have an ACL injury, also not the first time a highly touted player has had an ACL or season ending injury, yet all the media outlets are acting like the NFL is going to crumble now that he is done for the year, I guess this goes into all the NE Pats man love going on. NFL Network had the LA Dodgers team doctor on with a fake knee today showing everyone how an ACL works, and what happens when it is injured etc.

Now of course I know with Fantasy Football being such a big business now, this is one of the reasons that the media is pushing this one so big since many people had Brady as a consensus first round pick with his 50 TD and all from last year, when history has shown that the QB who throws for that 45+ mark goes right back down to their career averages the following season, could FF be the reason that everyone is making such a big deal about this injury?

Tully Mars · 09-08-2008, 01:51 PM

I get the feeling you don't care much for the Pats. I wasn't that thrilled with the whole tape-gate cheating BS but I always kind of liked Brady. I usually feel bad when a player gets injured... unless of course they play for the Cowboys.

MontanaXVI · 09-08-2008, 01:57 PM

I don't really have a like or dislike for the Pats, I don't like the video tape scandal and think the NFL handled it wrong.

I'm just more buzzed about the news and sports outlets reporting this story so much. I know it is big news MVP done for the year, but still it isn't the first time someone has had an injury that cost them a season, MVP or otherwise. Guess I am still burnt out from all the Favre drama, it would be nice to see news on EVERYTHING happening, not just one player. (<----- funny a guy who works for the newspaper ragging on the media)

SEA WR Nate Burleson out too for the year with a knee injury.

Bear Cub · 09-08-2008, 02:13 PM

I care... I'm thrilled!

jorgelito · 09-08-2008, 02:24 PM

I think it sucks. I am a Pats fan. Brady is a fine player and as far as I can tell, a good man. He's very hardworking and a great example to others.

The reason why the media is making a big deal out of it is because it is a big deal. Without Brady, the Pats will struggle. In fact, it changes the whole dynamic of the division if not the league. Secondly, you are correct, fantasy football is big bucks and Brady's injury has significant impact. I'm sure there are a ton of players scrambling to fill the QB slot. So it is reasonable to expect the media to pay lots of attention to this.

thespian86 · 09-08-2008, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Bear Cub

I care... I'm thrilled!

ditto. Go Pack.

djtestudo · 09-08-2008, 06:29 PM

First all the vitriol coming out of last season, then the Super Bowl, then the episode of Law and Order: SVU, and now this.

This hasn't been a very good 12 month-stretch for ol' Tommy boy.

Mister Coaster · 09-08-2008, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jorgelito

Secondly, you are correct, fantasy football is big bucks and Brady's injury has significant impact. I'm sure there are a ton of players scrambling to fill the QB slot.

And if you are in the TFP fantasy league, you know I'm one of those scramblers.

I still contend that Brady (assuming he stayed healthy) was a worthwile first round pick. The Pat's offense was intact, including a really good offensive line and Moss at WR, so why wouldn't Brady have continued throwing lots of TD's? Call it a next year jinx if you want to, either way we will never know.

Season enders aren't uncommon, but in the first quarter of the first game? That's newsworthy for any player, not just because it's Golden Boy Tommy.

jorgelito · 09-08-2008, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mister Coaster

And if you are in the TFP fantasy league, you know I'm one of those scramblers.

I still contend that Brady (assuming he stayed healthy) was a worthwile first round pick. The Pat's offense was intact, including a really good offensive line and Moss at WR, so why wouldn't Brady have continued throwing lots of TD's? Call it a next year jinx if you want to, either way we will never know.

Season enders aren't uncommon, but in the first quarter of the first game? That's newsworthy for any player, not just because it's Golden Boy Tommy.

That has to suck. You can't go wrong with picking up Brady. He's a solid fantasy stud. McNabb, Manning (Peyton) are also good pickups. Next would have to Favre and maybe Romo. That's football and fantasy for you though. No way to know he would be out with a season ending injury.

Now I'm curious how Matt Cassel will do. There's the tiniest possibility he could break out.

souzafone · 09-09-2008, 02:09 AM

If someone doesn't care about something, seems to me you wouldn't waste so much time watching, thinking, and writing about a subject. While the injury really sucks from a fan standpoint, it represents a chance for the rest of the team to gel. Maybe the ground game will finally come to life. Fortunately for the Pats the first few weeks should be their easiest, then they get a bye in week 4, so they'll get the best possible chance to adapt. Meanwhile we still got the Sox to watch while this develops.

Xazy · 09-09-2008, 03:28 AM

The bookies care, the odds just changed, and whoever made a book before the injury might find a huge sudden shift in them making a lot of money.

crewsor · 09-09-2008, 06:03 PM

YouTube - Chiefs safety Bernard Pollard Drills Tom Brady's Knee!! Tom Brady Out for the season!! Patriots nightmare!?! Patriots still win the game 17-10 over Chiefs!! Spy Gate Scandal?

Apparently someone cared enough to make this little ditty. As for me, injuries are part of the game. I don't like to see anyone injured, but better Brady than a Raven.The Patriots run of good fortune was due to change anyway.

Ilow · 09-09-2008, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MontanaXVI

Updating previous reports for well over the last 24 hours, NE Patriots placed QB Tom Brady on IR with an unspecified knee injury requiring surgery and he will miss the rest of the season.

Couple thoughts I want to weigh in on this one.

1) In typical cheating cock sucker fashion the team HAS NOT officially announced what is wrong with him, only saying in their official press release on the web site:

"After extensive tests this morning, it was revealed that New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady's left knee, which was injured in the first quarter of yesterday's game, will require surgery. He will be placed on injured reserve and will miss the remainder of the 2008 season."

I personally wouldn't have been surprised if they did surgery, and just listed him as questionable each week and never started him, kinda like the BS they pulled with Deion Branch a couple years ago.

2) This is NOT the first person to have an ACL injury, also not the first time a highly touted player has had an ACL or season ending injury, yet all the media outlets are acting like the NFL is going to crumble now that he is done for the year, I guess this goes into all the NE Pats man love going on. NFL Network had the LA Dodgers team doctor on with a fake knee today showing everyone how an ACL works, and what happens when it is injured etc.

Now of course I know with Fantasy Football being such a big business now, this is one of the reasons that the media is pushing this one so big since many people had Brady as a consensus first round pick with his 50 TD and all from last year, when history has shown that the QB who throws for that 45+ mark goes right back down to their career averages the following season, could FF be the reason that everyone is making such a big deal about this injury?

Couple of thoughts.
1) In typical jealous cocksucker fashion this poster is simply looking for an insignificant reason to bash the Patriots. Brady is injured and out for the season, why do you care which ligaments are injured, except to gloat? Some people are still convinced that if they blow someone else’s candle out that theirs will burn brighter. Apparently, being a 49ers fan must be like having a small penis--your life sucks and there’s little hope that it will get better anytime soon, so might as well lash out at the world.
2) This is the first time that the reigning NFL MVP has been injured in the first quarter of the first game of the season. This is one of the rare times that one of the top players in the NFL, who plays for one of the best teams suffers a season ending injury. If Shawn Merriman had been instrumental in San Diego winning 3 Super Bowls, and he had had the greatest season ever by an NFL linebacker last year, his injury would attract nearly the same kind of attention. No one for any major network is acting like the NFL is going to crumble, don’t say that they are. In fact, commentators who are at all competent are unanimous in saying that the NFL season just got a whole lot more interesting, both in the AFC East, and across the league. The Patriots are one of the best teams in the league and have been for most of the decade. They are also in one of the largest and most influential media markets in the country. It is not surprising that this is a national story, and just because certain people do not care for the organization will not make it any less so.

Fantasy Football is a huge and growing deal in this country, but I do not believe that this is the most significant reason that the national media is making this a big story. It is by far a secondary reason. This would be a major story if Fantasy Football did not exist at all. This is a huge deal for the gambling industry (which, of course is somewhat linked to Fantasy Football) but the real significance is about the actual football games on the field.

As far as the Patriots go, they are certainly somewhat diminished, however they are still a good team on both sides of the ball. They do not have the guaranteed, “just give me the ball and 90 seconds” in the 4th quarter leader, but they have several good backs, several good wide receivers, on offense. Even with an average QB, the Patriots appear to be every bit as good as other competitive teams in the league, but are just not head an shoulders above most of the teams they will play. I expect that every game will be a fight, and that they will lose several games during the course of this season. They should still have a good chance to make the playoffs, but are no longer a mortal lock. I am looking forward to seeing them play as legitimate underdogs again, as they seem to relish this role and rise to the occasion.

djtestudo · 09-09-2008, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ilow

Couple of thoughts.
1) In typical jealous cocksucker fashion this poster is simply looking for an insignificant reason to bash the Patriots. Brady is injured and out for the season, why do you care which ligaments are injured, except to gloat? Some people are still convinced that if they blow someone else’s candle out that theirs will burn brighter. Apparently, being a 49ers fan must be like having a small penis--your life sucks and there’s little hope that it will get better anytime soon, so might as well lash out at the world.
2) This is the first time that the reigning NFL MVP has been injured in the first quarter of the first game of the season. This is one of the rare times that one of the top players in the NFL, who plays for one of the best teams suffers a season ending injury. If Shawn Merriman had been instrumental in San Diego winning 3 Super Bowls, and he had had the greatest season ever by an NFL linebacker last year, his injury would attract nearly the same kind of attention. No one for any major network is acting like the NFL is going to crumble, don’t say that they are. In fact, commentators who are at all competent are unanimous in saying that the NFL season just got a whole lot more interesting, both in the AFC East, and across the league. The Patriots are one of the best teams in the league and have been for most of the decade. They are also in one of the largest and most influential media markets in the country. It is not surprising that this is a national story, and just because certain people do not care for the organization will not make it any less so.

Fantasy Football is a huge and growing deal in this country, but I do not believe that this is the most significant reason that the national media is making this a big story. It is by far a secondary reason. This would be a major story if Fantasy Football did not exist at all. This is a huge deal for the gambling industry (which, of course is somewhat linked to Fantasy Football) but the real significance is about the actual football games on the field.

As far as the Patriots go, they are certainly somewhat diminished, however they are still a good team on both sides of the ball. They do not have the guaranteed, “just give me the ball and 90 seconds” in the 4th quarter leader, but they have several good backs, several good wide receivers, on offense. Even with an average QB, the Patriots appear to be every bit as good as other competitive teams in the league, but are just not head an shoulders above most of the teams they will play. I expect that every game will be a fight, and that they will lose several games during the course of this season. They should still have a good chance to make the playoffs, but are no longer a mortal lock. I am looking forward to seeing them play as legitimate underdogs again, as they seem to relish this role and rise to the occasion.

Lighten up, Francis

People hate the Patriots right now, just like for a while everyone loved them. It happens, once teams get "too" good for too long.

They have the additional burden of a coaching staff and front office that not only doesn't help their perception among other fans, but affects it negatively.

thespian86 · 09-10-2008, 05:48 AM

um... go pack?

Redlemon · 09-10-2008, 09:43 AM

I'm a Pats fan, this is a crushing moment. However...

(source)

MontanaXVI · 09-10-2008, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ilow

Couple of thoughts.
1) In typical jealous cocksucker fashion this poster is simply looking for an insignificant reason to bash the Patriots. Brady is injured and out for the season, why do you care which ligaments are injured, except to gloat? Some people are still convinced that if they blow someone else’s candle out that theirs will burn brighter. Apparently, being a 49ers fan must be like having a small penis--your life sucks and there’s little hope that it will get better anytime soon, so might as well lash out at the world.

From the interactions I have had with numerous NE and Patriots fans, you my good sir are another fine example of the reason people up there are called Massholes.

Don't make personal attacks on me because I said something bad about your team, grow up.

When you take your fandom and make someone else's negative thoughts of your team and turn them into a personal attack on that person, you need to step back and look at the situation.

My negative perception of the team has to do with the fact that apparently there was something more to that whole video taping deal, than just walkthroughs or whatever the team claimed it was since they did get fined, and lost that first round pick after an investigation by the league offices. I told someone else above that I don't honestly have a like or dislike for the team and that is the truth.

As an NFL fan I had to sit through an entire offseason of Chad Johnson...er scratch that Ocho Cinco, and the whole Brett Favre mess. Now with Brady going down that is going to be the only news we hear for weeks. Michael Turner ran for 220 yards and 2 TD, his backup Jerious Norwood came in and ran for almost 100 and a TD...Brady got more press.

You do have a valid point that maybe this is the first time a reigning MVP has went down this early in the season, but you are missing my point, this isn't the first time that someone has went down with said injury. Yes, it is a significant injury, yes it is news, but not the ONLY news.

09-08-2008, 01:23 PM	#1 (permalink)
MontanaXVI Junkie Location: Go A's!!!!	Tom Brady on IR, Done for year, does anyone care? Updating previous reports for well over the last 24 hours, NE Patriots placed QB Tom Brady on IR with an unspecified knee injury requiring surgery and he will miss the rest of the season. Couple thoughts I want to weigh in on this one. 1) In typical cheating cock sucker fashion the team HAS NOT officially announced what is wrong with him, only saying in their official press release on the web site: "After extensive tests this morning, it was revealed that New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady's left knee, which was injured in the first quarter of yesterday's game, will require surgery. He will be placed on injured reserve and will miss the remainder of the 2008 season." I personally wouldn't have been surprised if they did surgery, and just listed him as questionable each week and never started him, kinda like the BS they pulled with Deion Branch a couple years ago. 2) This is NOT the first person to have an ACL injury, also not the first time a highly touted player has had an ACL or season ending injury, yet all the media outlets are acting like the NFL is going to crumble now that he is done for the year, I guess this goes into all the NE Pats man love going on. NFL Network had the LA Dodgers team doctor on with a fake knee today showing everyone how an ACL works, and what happens when it is injured etc. Now of course I know with Fantasy Football being such a big business now, this is one of the reasons that the media is pushing this one so big since many people had Brady as a consensus first round pick with his 50 TD and all from last year, when history has shown that the QB who throws for that 45+ mark goes right back down to their career averages the following season, could FF be the reason that everyone is making such a big deal about this injury? __________________ Spank you very much

09-08-2008, 01:51 PM	#2 (permalink)
Tully Mars Living in a Warmer Insanity Super Moderator Location: Yucatan, Mexico	I get the feeling you don't care much for the Pats. I wasn't that thrilled with the whole tape-gate cheating BS but I always kind of liked Brady. I usually feel bad when a player gets injured... unless of course they play for the Cowboys. __________________ I used to drink to drown my sorrows, but the damned things have learned how to swim- Frida Kahlo Vice President Starkizzer Fan Club Last edited by Tully Mars; 09-08-2008 at 02:36 PM..

09-08-2008, 01:57 PM	#3 (permalink)
MontanaXVI Junkie Location: Go A's!!!!	I don't really have a like or dislike for the Pats, I don't like the video tape scandal and think the NFL handled it wrong. I'm just more buzzed about the news and sports outlets reporting this story so much. I know it is big news MVP done for the year, but still it isn't the first time someone has had an injury that cost them a season, MVP or otherwise. Guess I am still burnt out from all the Favre drama, it would be nice to see news on EVERYTHING happening, not just one player. (<----- funny a guy who works for the newspaper ragging on the media) SEA WR Nate Burleson out too for the year with a knee injury. __________________ Spank you very much

09-08-2008, 02:13 PM	#4 (permalink)
Bear Cub The Reverend Side Boob Location: Nofe Curolina	I care... I'm thrilled! __________________ Living in the United Socialist States of America.

09-08-2008, 02:24 PM	#5 (permalink)
jorgelito All important elusive independent swing voter... Location: People's Republic of KKKalifornia	I think it sucks. I am a Pats fan. Brady is a fine player and as far as I can tell, a good man. He's very hardworking and a great example to others. The reason why the media is making a big deal out of it is because it is a big deal. Without Brady, the Pats will struggle. In fact, it changes the whole dynamic of the division if not the league. Secondly, you are correct, fantasy football is big bucks and Brady's injury has significant impact. I'm sure there are a ton of players scrambling to fill the QB slot. So it is reasonable to expect the media to pay lots of attention to this. __________________ "The race is not always to the swift, nor battle to the strong, but to the one that endures to the end." "Demand more from yourself, more than anyone else could ever ask!" - My recruiter

09-08-2008, 06:29 PM	#7 (permalink)
djtestudo Baltimoron Location: Beeeeeautiful Bel Air, MD	First all the vitriol coming out of last season, then the Super Bowl, then the episode of Law and Order: SVU, and now this. This hasn't been a very good 12 month-stretch for ol' Tommy boy. __________________ "Final thought: I just rented Michael Moore's Bowling for Columbine. Frankly, it was the worst sports movie I've ever seen." --Peter Schmuck, The (Baltimore) Sun

09-09-2008, 02:09 AM	#10 (permalink)
souzafone Insane	If someone doesn't care about something, seems to me you wouldn't waste so much time watching, thinking, and writing about a subject. While the injury really sucks from a fan standpoint, it represents a chance for the rest of the team to gel. Maybe the ground game will finally come to life. Fortunately for the Pats the first few weeks should be their easiest, then they get a bye in week 4, so they'll get the best possible chance to adapt. Meanwhile we still got the Sox to watch while this develops.

09-09-2008, 03:28 AM	#11 (permalink)
Xazy People in masks cannot be trusted Location: NYC	The bookies care, the odds just changed, and whoever made a book before the injury might find a huge sudden shift in them making a lot of money.

09-10-2008, 05:48 AM	#15 (permalink)
thespian86 change is hard. Location: the green room.	um... go pack? __________________ EX: Whats new? ME: I officially love coffee more then you now. EX: uh... ME: So, not much.

09-10-2008, 09:43 AM	#16 (permalink)
Redlemon Devoted Donor Location: New England	I'm a Pats fan, this is a crushing moment. However... (source) __________________ I can't read your signature. Sorry.