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Old 07-20-2009, 07:59 AM   #321 (permalink)
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Chilly we've been trying to move the MMA vs Boxing arguement to another thread.

Here
http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/tilted-...mma-sport.html

or if you want to try oldschool here with the exact same thread SF started earlier.
http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/tilted-...ma-debate.html

And thanks silent_jay! I hadn't actually gotten to watch any of the undercard.
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Old 07-21-2009, 08:29 AM   #323 (permalink)
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Man August is going to be fucking awesome for MMA!
We've got Afflitction: Trilogy on the first (which I'm unfortunately going to have to miss due to being up at the cottage on vacation with no tv or internet)
Main Card
WAMMA Heavyweight Championship bout: Fedor Emelianenko vs. Josh Barnett
Light Heavyweight bout: Renato Sobral vs. Gegard Mousasi
Middleweight bout: Vitor Belfort vs. Jorge Santiago
Heavyweight bout: Gilbert Yvel vs. Paul Buentello
Lightweight bout: Takanori Gomi vs. Rafaello Oliveira

We get the first of two UFC events starting with 101 on the 8th
UFC 101 Main card
Lightweight Championship bout: B.J. Penn (c) vs. Kenny Florian
Light Heavyweight bout: Anderson Silva vs. Forrest Griffin
Welterweight bout: Amir Sadollah vs. Johny Hendricks
Middleweight bout: Kendall Grove vs. Ricardo Almeida
Lightweight bout: Josh Neer vs. Kurt Pellegrino

Then we get Strikeforce: Carano vs Cyborg on the 15th
Main card
Women's Championship (145 lbs) bout: Gina Carano vs. Cristiane Santos
Lightweight Championship unification bout: Josh Thomson (c) vs. Gilbert Melendez (ic)
Heavyweight Championship bout: Alistair Overeem (c) vs. Fabricio Werdum
Welterweight Championship bout: Nick Diaz vs. Joe Riggs

Nothing on the 22nd but then finally UFC 102 on the 29th
UFC 102 Main Card
Heavyweight bout: Randy Couture vs. Antônio Rodrigo Nogueira
Light Heavyweight bout: Keith Jardine vs. Thiago Silva
Middleweight bout: Chris Leben vs. Jake Rosholt
Middleweight bout: Nate Marquardt vs. Demian Maia
Light Heavyweight bout: Krzysztof Soszynski vs. Brandon Vera

I'd really like to know what channel the Strikeforce event is going to air on up here in Canada because I don't get Showtime and this main card is fucking packed. Honestly while other cards might have better individual fights Strikeforce has done a great job of stacking the card for what is without a doubt their highest profile main event with Carano vs Cyborg.

UPDATE: Sounds like Fedor-Barnett might not be happening. Just read that Barnett failed a drug test but have'nt been able to confirm it yet. Yet knowing his history I wouldn't be surprised if it's true. Also apparently Overeem is out of the fight with Werdum. You have to assume that Werdum is more or less ready to go so I wonder if we'll see Werdum/Fedor.
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Old 07-23-2009, 06:50 AM   #324 (permalink)
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Barnett is appealing the drug test results.

no word on who will step in to face Fedor still.. I don't know if anyone wants such short notice to fight Fedor.
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Old 07-23-2009, 08:35 AM   #325 (permalink)
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I've heard a few names being tossed around
Apparently Vitor Belfort has said he'll take a fight against Fedor and it's on the Wiki entry for what that's worth.

The other name I heard was Fabricio Werdum since his fight with Overeem was cancelled assuming Strikeforce would let him fight for Affliction (actually they could use it as good advertising for the Gina/Cyborg card)

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Seth Petruzelli! He killed Elite XC! Maybe he can kill Affliction too!
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Old 07-23-2009, 08:39 AM   #326 (permalink)
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hmm I don't think I'm that interested in a Fedor/Vitor fight for some reason..

I'm just stoked I get to see Cyborg/Gina brawl it out.. man-child Cyborg may hand Gina a loss.. but we all know who I'm rooting for
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Old 07-23-2009, 08:41 AM   #327 (permalink)
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Yeah Fedor/Vitor isn't exactly great but it's really a matter of who else?
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Old 07-23-2009, 08:43 AM   #328 (permalink)
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how about the boxing champ?

this is why hopefully Fedor will jump ship to UFC when his contract is up..
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Old 07-23-2009, 09:01 AM   #329 (permalink)
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how about if couture dumps ufc for a night i still wanna see that fight
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Old 07-23-2009, 09:06 AM   #330 (permalink)
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hmm.. ya know paq, that's a great idea.

that may also give Dana bargaining power when it's time to bring Fedor over from Affliction.
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Old 07-23-2009, 08:01 PM   #331 (permalink)
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Don Frye is the fucking man!

I fucking love Don Frye.

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"If Tom was smart, he'd have me fighting Fedor instead of whoever he's hiring on a one week notice," Frye told MMAInsider. "My phone works if he wants a real fight with someone who sell a fight in four days, somebody who will beat that bald-headed commie too."
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Old 07-23-2009, 08:19 PM   #332 (permalink)
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Old 07-23-2009, 09:38 PM   #333 (permalink)
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as long as don frye has a 'stache...he's got an urging to bash..

no 'stache...no bash. mucho stache=mucho bash
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Old 07-24-2009, 07:52 AM   #334 (permalink)
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as long as don frye has a 'stache...he's got an urging to bash..

no 'stache...no bash. mucho stache=mucho bash
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Old 07-24-2009, 09:57 AM   #335 (permalink)
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taht...was....phenomenal and exactly why don frye is the man. Seriously, though, ijust remember his bash fest with the asian guy...basically 2 ruonds of 2 people holding each other's head and punching. Frye won bc of the power of the stache to cushion the blows..
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Old 07-24-2009, 01:06 PM   #336 (permalink)
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Barnett fails a piss test, Affliction drops the card. Pretty Fugg'd up.

Pretty messed up about what happened with Overeem, hospitalized 5 bouncers and nearly lost his hand to infection.

Riggs is apparently out of his fight with Diaz now too.

Everything that isn't UFC is getting messed up.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgns
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Multiple sources have informed MMAWeekly.com that Affliction’s third show, “Triology,” has been canceled. Fighters and managers were being notified of the situation early Friday morning.

The event was scheduled for Aug. 1 at the Honda Center in Anaheim, Calif.

Details on the cancellation are few, but the loss of Josh Barnett, one half of the evening’s main event, undoubtedly contributed to the decision.

A source close to the situation also informed MMAWeekly.com that Affliction’s pay-per-view provider, Showtime, played a major factor in the cancellation.

The headline bout, and main selling point of the event, was scheduled to be Barnett against WAMMA champion Fedor Emelianenko, unanimously regarded as tops in the heavyweight class.

That was until it was revealed earlier this week that Barnett had allegedly tested positive for steroids in a pre-fight drug test that caused the California State Athletic Commission to deny him a license to fight.

“The license of Josh Barnett was denied pursuant to rule 303 of Title IV of the California Code of Regulations,” said CSAC interim executive officer Dave Thornton on Wednesday. “That rule prohibits the use of certain substances, including anabolic agents, by any boxer or MMA fighter.”

Affliction vice president Tom Atencio issued a statement citing time as the decisive factor.

“Finding an opponent for the No. 1 ranked MMA heavyweight champion in such a short period of time was a huge endeavor and I’m thrilled at the amount of fighters willing to take on this challenge,” stated Atencio. “But in the end, we just didn’t have enough time to promote a new fight to our standards.”

The statement went on to express disappointment that the undercard would be a casualty of the cancellation, but sources close to several fighters indicated that preliminary talks have already begun to try and place some of the undercard bouts and/or fighters on other fight cards that are coming up.

One event that is perhaps more likely than others to gain from the cancellation is M-1 Global’s Aug. 28 event in Los Angeles. Several sources indicated that event is a primary focus for placing undercard bouts. Although the talks are still preliminary, M-1 Global’s event would make sense given that the company is a main partner of Affliction and was co-promoting the Aug. 1 “Trilogy” event.

Affliction has also worked closely with Strikeforce, sharing fighters with the California-based promotion in the past. Strikeforce has an Aug. 15 event on Showtime featuring a women’s title bout between Gina Carano and Cristiane “Cyborg” Santos. That event has also suffered recent setbacks with the withdrawal of heavyweight champion Alistair Overeem in a title bout against Fabricio Werdum and, Friday morning, Joe Riggs dropped out of a scheduled welterweight championship fight against Nick Diaz.

Given the strong relationship between the two promotions, it wouldn’t be out of the question for Affliction to try and place some of its fighters on the Strikeforce card to try and fill in some of the gaps.

Affliction noted that ticketholders for the canceled “Trilogy” event should contact Ticketmaster for a refund.
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Old 07-24-2009, 01:35 PM   #338 (permalink)
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At the risk of sounding racist, that is one ugly asian man.
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Old 08-02-2009, 03:22 AM   #339 (permalink)
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I for one can't wait for the Cyborg/Carano fight... ...to be over. Seriously, This fight is so overhyped. It's not that I not looking forward to seeing them fight.. I'm just tired of seeing Cyborg's ugly mug beside Gina Carano all the damn time.
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Old 08-02-2009, 08:56 AM   #340 (permalink)
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Old 08-04-2009, 10:56 AM   #341 (permalink)
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Get used to it. Cyborg is gonna paste Gina.

EDIT (Just got back from the cottage so I hadn't heard when I posted)

Fedor signs with StrikeForce eh?

This could be HUGE for SF.
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Old 08-07-2009, 02:57 PM   #342 (permalink)
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Anyone think KenFlo has a chance against BJ? I'd love to say yes because I can't stand BJ but really he's just so dominant at LW.
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Forrest pulls a shocking upset over Anderson.
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Old 08-07-2009, 05:05 PM   #343 (permalink)
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I'm thinking forrest pulls the upset, honestly, not sure how.

Ken flo has a GREAT chance against bj right now. penn is crazy good at lw, but i thin kenny will simply out train him and blow him away...if he can avoid getting his head knocked off. i kinda see kenny winning by gnp tko stoppage.

did anyone see bj pissing his pants trying to convince everyone htat gsp is juicing. dude needs to climb down off his cross, tear it down, build a bridge and get over it...
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Old 08-07-2009, 08:17 PM   #344 (permalink)
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Forrest is super-tough, but doesn't really have the skill set to beat Silva. The only way I see him winning is if the fight goes the way of Forrest - Rampage, where the champ takes waaaay to long to measure Forrest out and falls behind due to inactivity.

However! Forrest is super-tough. Is Silva?

Fuck it, I'm pulling for Forrest. I at least want to see Silva get rocked, just once, to see how he handles it.

I think B.J. will get shredded by Florian.
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Old 08-08-2009, 11:07 AM   #346 (permalink)
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maybe Forrest will accidentally step into the ring with BJ and beat the shit out of him instead.

I think Florian will wipe the floor.. seriously.

I'm also pulling for Forrest over Silva. I think Silva deserves a beating after his past few matches.. if there is a decent amount of standup, Silva could easily get knocked out..
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Ok, WTF was up with that griffin/Silva fight? Something was way off in that fight. Why the hell did Griffin take off pretty much sprinting backstage? It's just uncharacteristic for griffin to go out like that.
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Old 08-09-2009, 11:40 AM   #348 (permalink)
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i thought that was really weird as well. griffin almost always gets a post fight interview.
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Old 08-09-2009, 11:45 AM   #349 (permalink)
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Medical attention. He thought his jaw was broken (turns out it was dislocated) and couldn't hear out of one ear.
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Old 08-10-2009, 12:01 AM   #350 (permalink)
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Daaaamn, it really was weird how quickly he ran out, but if all those injuries came from those few punches I'd hurry my ass outta there too.

I did not expect BJ to take KenFlo so easily on the floor. Definitely my favorite fight of the night.
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Old 08-10-2009, 06:25 AM   #351 (permalink)
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funny how dana white gave the FOTN to sylva/griffin as a kinda "sorry about feeding you to sylva" gift to griffin...

Ken flo/bj was a great fight and seriously showed just how good bj is...at 155. dude needs to stop whining and just stay in teh right weight class. I dont' think anyone really expected a 4th round submission from a penn who didn't gas...

I wonder if forrest is getting tired of having black guys dance in his face?

that roop vs greek guy was just a BJJ clinic...crazy stuff
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have to admit I'm shocked that BJ won like that..and super shocked that Forrest didn't do anything.
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Old 08-10-2009, 04:49 PM   #353 (permalink)
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Well, now that I've had time to pull my foot out of my mouth, I'll just say wow. For Silva to show so much power against Griffin was pretty amazing. And BJ looked sorta' prodigy-ish again. Go figure. Florian made a decent showing, I guess. But totally out-classed.
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Old 08-10-2009, 06:03 PM   #354 (permalink)
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it seriously amazes me at how over the top amazing both penn and silva are...penn just gases out against hte bigger guys, and silva ..i just don't know what silva does, but it's amazing. Seriously, hes' dancing, playing around, BAM, dropped griffin..did it again..and again..

i mean, diego/penn 'could' be an upset for diego...maybe..but i dunno..

silva...i don't really know who will beat him. hendo has agood chance wtih the wrestling, but marq thought that too...and ended up tapping to elbows to the head while defending a deep triangle choke...

so really, who knows...
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Medical attention. He thought his jaw was broken (turns out it was dislocated) and couldn't hear out of one ear.
Update on Forrest Griffin (who was absent from the post-fight press conference) from the UG: "I... - Bloody Elbow
That pretty much explains the oddity. I mean if his jaw got dislocated early that love tap to the chin that sent him to that floor the final time probably felt a whole hell of a lot worse than it looked.
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Medical attention. He thought his jaw was broken (turns out it was dislocated) and couldn't hear out of one ear.
Update on Forrest Griffin (who was absent from the post-fight press conference) from the UG: "I... - Bloody Elbow
That's been debunked.

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Old 08-15-2009, 05:09 PM   #357 (permalink)
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I'm calling a Cyborg win by unanimous decision over Carano. What do you guys think?
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Old 08-15-2009, 05:52 PM   #358 (permalink)
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yeah I'm pretty sure Cyborg is gonna beat the shit out of the princess.. sadly
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Old 08-16-2009, 04:55 AM   #359 (permalink)
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...but a great round none-the-less. Carano looked like she was starting to get gassed in the last minute. I don't think it would have lasted much longer if it had gone to the second round.
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Old 08-16-2009, 07:26 AM   #360 (permalink)
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I expected Cyborg to win. I don't think there's anyone around at the moment that can beat her without her making a huge mistake or some puncher's luck. I thought Carano was going to make it to the second round.. Well I guess she would have if rounds were 3 minutes each as I expected.

I'm Surprised Babalu got KTFO so quick. I tip my hat to Mousasi for stopping the beating before the ref even stepped in.
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