Official MMA Predictions Thread.

[Paq]

babalu got KTFO...first loss i've seen him in since liddell. Mousasi knew he had that fight won.

Cyborg was just reigning power punches down at the end of the first round, gina would not have gotten up for the second. I kept seeing little stars pop up for cyborg (punchout reference)...freaking awesome display of how to dominate someone. There have been suggestions cyborg was juicing and greasing

[Glory's Sun]

don't let BJ hear that Cyborg was greasing..

[Paq]

i'm kidding, although there are always rumors of steroids.

did you see penn whining that GSP was on roids bc he always looks ripped and shredded....saying something like "we train, we get skinny, we fight,t hen we get fat until the next fight"... I like his fights, love that he really is that good..at 155..but he just needs to stfu

[Glory's Sun]

BJ is just a douche.. or I guess he's a cock.

get it?? BJ.. cock..

uugh that was too stupid even for me.

[m0rpheus]

Looks like the next few events are finally starting to shape up.
103 - Franklin vs Belfort, CroCop vs dos Santos
104 - Machida vs Rua, Velasquez vs Rothwell
105 - Bisping vs ??? (England event no shock that Bisping is headlining)
106 - Lesnar vs Carwin, Coleman vs Ortiz
107 - Rampage vs Rashad, battle of the Thiagos - Thiago Alves vs Paulo Thiago

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[Cross-Over]

I didn't see it, but just read the summary. It appears that the crowd and analysts agreed with you. MMA, which self promotes as a fairer version of combat than Boxing, has not appeared to such in all big fights (I personally thought Rampage beat Griffin a couple years ago, but he lost the title in a decision).

[m0rpheus]

Originally Posted by silent_jay

Fuckin bullshit judges again, Shogun won hands down.

I disagree, I thought Machida won three rounds to Shogun's two. Machida definetly won rounds 1 and 3.
I'm also a believer that to be awarded the belt by decision you have to clearly beat the champion and Shogun didn't.

[Paq]

not to be too disagreeable, but every outlet and fightmetrics.com called the match for rua..some as much as 50/45 or 49/46. I could not see how machida won at all.

[m0rpheus]

I'm basing it off the same thing the judges were, watching the actual fight not the post-fight stuff like fightmetrics.
Most of the kicks Rua threw Machida was throwing counters for in the first three rounds. IMO Machida definetly won rounds 1 and 3, and probably won round 2. Shogun won rounds 4 and 5.

I get the people who have Shogun winning 48-47, but the ones that have him winning 50-45 is just stupid. There is absolutely no way he lost round 3.

[YaWhateva]

I thought it was a great fight, I could see round two going either way but I agreed with 1 and 3 going to Machida. The commentary was biased as all hell. Joe Rogan was way up Rua's ass. People think that because Rua took it to Machida the last two rounds that he won. That's not how the point system works. I give tons of credit to Rua for that fight, I was expecting Machida to walk all over him.

I am looking forward to the rematch.

[m0rpheus]

Sometimes Rogan's good sometimes not so much. It seemed like everytime Rua would throw a kick in the first few rounds, he'd eat a punch or two yet Rogan was totally focused on the kicks.

No question Rua won 4 and 5 though.

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[Reese]

That was such a massive right hand by Fedor.. holy shit. I don't know how Rogers didn't get KOed.

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[YaWhateva]

I dont even know why Gus Johnson asked if Fedor would do a rematch...Fedor dominated that fight and the cut was just some scar tissue opening up. Fedor bleeds if you look at him wrong.

[Paq]

to be fair, rogers had some good gnp on fedor. the nose cut/break was not 'that' devastating bc it really can happen bc of the angle, etc. and while it hurts, it's not exactly enough to make you wanna stop. I used to see that type of break in barfights all the time.

if you watch the slowmo, you'll see rogers' eyes go waaaaayyy back in the head from the ko punch, he just recovered pretty easily. i was shocked the ref didn't stop the fight earlier.

however, at no point in that match would i ever say rogers was dominating enough for a rematch. I have heard rumors the next fight would be fedor against werdum...but that does not even come close to getting me excited after watching werdum tonight. Overeem is still mia with the title.

[Reese]

Yeah, Rogers got a few big hits in on the ground. I don't know what was up with the rematch question either. I like Rogers but it really didn't seem like the fight was worthy of a rematch.

Strikeforce has a crappy play-by-play announcer and color commentator though.. So how'd you score that round? I dunno.. sigh

[m0rpheus]

With the exception of the Shields/Miller fight that was a fantastic show and what a KO by Fedor.
Guess they've got a great highlight to hype Fedor next time he's on TV.

It was also nice to see two HW's go three rounds without gassing unlike almost everyone in the Ultimate Fighter this season.

[Plan9]

Originally Posted by m0rpheus

It was also nice to see two HW's go three rounds without gassing unlike almost everyone in the Ultimate Fighter this season.

This.

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[m0rpheus]

Really though, there's no way Nelson should get beaten by any of these guys.

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[Paq]

roy nelson has been a favorite to win. Heck, he's actually 'good' until you put him up with a top ranked heavyweight. He rocked AArlovski before eventually losing, but he's surprisingly good....
i still hate him, but he's the favorite to win. I personally think rampage's boy will surprise a lot of people. that guy has some skill on the mat and he's big enough to just muscle people around. I'd love to see him just roll over nelson like nothing.

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[Paq]

Nelson did not win that fight. at all
he lost the first round conclusively and the 2nd was ..hell, he still lost the second. i put this judging up there wtih matt hamill vs bisping. someone was paid off

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[Paq]

couture or ortiz would simply hold nelson against the cage for 2-3 minutes, then when he's gassed, just pass guard and gnp until the ref stops it. Im' feelin that about any of these heavyweights. rampage's winner dude is the only one who didn't seem to be struggling to breathe by the end of the first couple of minutes. this reminds me of TUF 3 with shammy's team doing absolutely no cardio...but i don't know if these guys aren't doing it or just haven't built it up.

[YaWhateva]

Originally Posted by Paq

Nelson did not win that fight. at all
he lost the first round conclusively and the 2nd was ..hell, he still lost the second. i put this judging up there wtih matt hamill vs bisping. someone was paid off

I havent watched it yet but if you are saying its as bad as that then damn, that's some poor judging.

[Paq]

the fight was good, only in the fact that the dude whooped nelson's ass for the first round.. i think dana white said it best...nelson was in an exciting fight bc he was getting destroyed the first round and the day he is in an exciting fight that 'he' made exciting..is the day he'll get props.

Seriously, he did nothing spectacular in the 2nd round except not look as gassed as the other dude. the other guy was still landing and doing more, but was looking more tired, dropping hands, resting them on his thighs, etc. I think the judges saw that and thought he was mroe hurt or something.

it was a bs call. everyone said it should have been 'at least' another round. There is no way nelson even came close to winning the first round.

[m0rpheus]

No way was that along the lines of Bisping/Hammil. I thought Wren won the first but it wasn't exactly dominant. With the exception of the one flurry where he tagged Nelson a few times, the round was pretty even. Wren was throwing alot more punches but only a few actually landed. Nelson was landing alot of shots too.
Nelson definetly won the second round and I have no doubt that he would have taken the third (I think there should have been a third) too.

I'm also curious to see what Nelson does in the semi-finals. He said in interviews that he was trying to do just enough to win the prelims and quarterfinals so that he'd be in good shape for the semi-final. I really want to see more from Nelson though, I mean he was kicking Arlovski's ass on the ground until the ref stood the fight up way to quickly and Nelson got KO'ed.

As far as Dana's comments, well Dana has zero crediblity for me. Sometimes I want to know what world Dana lives in. Wren is dominant in one flurry for the round and suddenly he's kicking Roy's ass for the entire round. This is the same guy who says two guys throwing bombs for thirty seconds then gassing and looking like shit for the rest of the fight was an awesome fight.

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[m0rpheus]

Yes one dominant flurry. Watch every other exchange. While Wren threw alot of punches only a few of them would land, whereas Nelson only threw one punch at a time but most of them landed flush on Wren's face. Like I said, I thought Wren won the round but he hardly dominated it.

As far as Nelson condition, he's actually in pretty decent shape he's just got a huge gut. His cardio's better than most heavyweights and he has better BJJ than most of the UFC's current HWs.

As far as Rogers goes, apparently he doesn't know that Fedor has had worse than a cut on the nose and still won (I'm thinking when Randleman dropped him on his head). I credit Rogers for doing better than I thought he would, but he lost. He doesn't deserve a rematch unless he can rack up a winstreak and challenge Fedor for the belt (assuming Overeem finds his balls actually defends the belt).

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[m0rpheus]

They really need to force Overeem to defend or be stripped. Although this might show why Overeem isn't excited about fighting in the US...

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[m0rpheus]

Well 105 was decent save the main event. Watching Randy hold Vera against the cage for the better part of 15 minutes was a pretty boring thing to watch.

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