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Strange Famous · 12-10-2007, 11:48 AM

Which means he'll serve, what - 16? 12?

a couple of seasons at worse.

I wonder if he'll be back and play at the top level?

It seems like a pretty harsh sentence on animal cruelty charges, but I suppose I dont know the whole story or that much details of how much cruelty there was and how much he was personally responsible for.

Plan9 · 12-10-2007, 11:59 AM

We should castrate that motherbitch.

Strange Famous · 12-10-2007, 12:00 PM

What, for killing some dogs?

I mean - Im not in favour of hurting animals, and I wouldnt watch it myself - but 1,000's of cattle die every week to feed American's, whats the difference?

The_Jazz · 12-10-2007, 12:02 PM

Most people don't keep cows as pets.

And those dogs died a needless death after being tortured into fighting animals.

But in the end, it boils down to dogs are cute and cuddly.

And I hope Vick never plays another down of football again.

Strange Famous · 12-10-2007, 12:07 PM

well... I would never personally hurt any animal I didnt have to. Earlier this year there was myxi rabbit at work and I felt like I had to put it out its misery and I hated doing it.

But if I ask myself, genuinely, is one of these dogs MORE tortured than a battery hen... I dont know that it is.

Of course, dogs are more sensitive and attractive animals (not in a sex way) than chickens - but I dont see why this should effect a legal judgment.

I expected him to be punished, but to me a custodial sentence is a bit OTT.

Glory's Sun · 12-10-2007, 12:25 PM

He bankrolled the entire operation. That's why he received the sentence. It's sort of like going after the mob boss.

Sure cattle are killed, poultry is killed yada yada yada. However, those animals are bred specifically for the purpose of providing a food source. Dogs are not .. at least not here. When a man sprays down a dog with a water hose then electrocutes it.. there's something mentally wrong there.

The black and white matter of this.. he broke the law, he serves his time. It's pretty simple. He'll probably play in the NFL again.. although I doubt it will be at quarterback or with a top contending team. Can you say Ravens??

Ustwo · 12-10-2007, 12:44 PM

Actually from what I heard, killing the dogs wasn't the issue, it was violating the dog fighting laws and gambling laws. Mind you I haven't read anything about this in quite a while.

djtestudo · 12-10-2007, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by guccilvr

He bankrolled the entire operation. That's why he received the sentence. It's sort of like going after the mob boss.

Sure cattle are killed, poultry is killed yada yada yada. However, those animals are bred specifically for the purpose of providing a food source. Dogs are not .. at least not here. When a man sprays down a dog with a water hose then electrocutes it.. there's something mentally wrong there.

The black and white matter of this.. he broke the law, he serves his time. It's pretty simple. He'll probably play in the NFL again.. although I doubt it will be at quarterback or with a top contending team. Can you say Ravens??

Can you say, "FUCK NO!!!"

Seriously though, assuming he serves most of this time, he wouldn't even be able to be reinstated until after the 2009 season. For the 2010 season, he'll be 30 and out of the league for three years.

This isn't Ricky Williams, who only has to take the ball and run in one direction; he won't be starting ANYWHERE, and I honestly doubt he ever plays a regular-season down again.

jorgelito · 12-10-2007, 11:03 PM

I wonder what kind of punishment one would get for torturing and killing a cow in India. Anyone have any idea?

Ustwo · 12-11-2007, 06:44 AM

Unless its changed recently you can eat beef in India but you do get prison time for purposefully causing harm to a cow.

I'm just going to guess that the beef would be imported.

YaWhateva · 12-11-2007, 02:55 PM

from what I hear he also hung dogs and he kept beagles(sp?) that he would basically feed to the pit bulls. Inflicting that kind of pain on any animal is worthy a bullet to the head, in my opinion.

cheetahtank2 · 12-11-2007, 03:00 PM

well lets not forget either he himself never handled any of the dogs he did sponsor for it but, we cant know exactly how much about it he knew. Also as of now he is indefinitely suspended so he'll have to appeal for reinstatement and that'll prolly take a third season so he prolly if at all wont be eligible till he's 30 or so and probably not in shape anymore. As much as i enjoyed watchin him play i doubt he'll comeback.

Jadedfox · 12-17-2007, 04:57 AM

I'd welcome him with open arms in Chicago, we need a QB!
Just kidding.

--jaded

skada · 12-23-2007, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ustwo

Unless its changed recently you can eat beef in India but you do get prison time for purposefully causing harm to a cow.

I'm just going to guess that the beef would be imported.

Killing cows in India is legal depending where you are :

Quote:

This is not universally true, even of the Hindus, who form a little
over four-fifths of India's billion-strong population. Many Hindus,
who keep cows as milch and draught animals and use bullock power in
agriculture, sell them once their economic life is exhausted. India
has a sixth of the world's cows and 57 percent of the world's
buffaloes. Apart from slaughtering millions of cows and buffaloes for
domestic consumption, India also exports over US$200 million worth of
meat, mainly beef.

src : http://www.countercurrents.org/comm-bidwai210803.htm
And not only that killing cows in one temple in India done not for meat but as rituals ..

QuasiMondo · 12-28-2007, 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jadedfox

I'd welcome him with open arms in Chicago, we need a QB!
Just kidding.

--jaded

We'll see if you're still kidding if Grossman is still your QB in '10

Jadedfox · 12-29-2007, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuasiMondo

We'll see if you're still kidding if Grossman is still your QB in '10

Haha, well he's probably the best we've got right now!

--jaded

12-10-2007, 11:48 AM	#1 (permalink)
Strange Famous follower of the child's crusade?	23 months for Vick Which means he'll serve, what - 16? 12? a couple of seasons at worse. I wonder if he'll be back and play at the top level? It seems like a pretty harsh sentence on animal cruelty charges, but I suppose I dont know the whole story or that much details of how much cruelty there was and how much he was personally responsible for. __________________ "Do not tell lies, and do not do what you hate, for all things are plain in the sight of Heaven. For nothing hidden will not become manifest, and nothing covered will remain without being uncovered." The Gospel of Thomas

12-10-2007, 11:59 AM	#2 (permalink)
Plan9 I Confess a Shiver	We should castrate that motherbitch. __________________ *Whatever you can carry.* "You should not drink... and bake."

12-10-2007, 12:00 PM	#3 (permalink)
Strange Famous follower of the child's crusade?	What, for killing some dogs? I mean - Im not in favour of hurting animals, and I wouldnt watch it myself - but 1,000's of cattle die every week to feed American's, whats the difference? __________________ "Do not tell lies, and do not do what you hate, for all things are plain in the sight of Heaven. For nothing hidden will not become manifest, and nothing covered will remain without being uncovered." The Gospel of Thomas

12-10-2007, 12:02 PM	#4 (permalink)
The_Jazz Asshole Administrator Location: Chicago	Most people don't keep cows as pets. And those dogs died a needless death after being tortured into fighting animals. But in the end, it boils down to dogs are cute and cuddly. And I hope Vick never plays another down of football again. __________________ "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - B. Franklin "There ought to be limits to freedom." - George W. Bush "We have met the enemy and he is us." - Pogo

12-10-2007, 12:07 PM	#5 (permalink)
Strange Famous follower of the child's crusade?	well... I would never personally hurt any animal I didnt have to. Earlier this year there was myxi rabbit at work and I felt like I had to put it out its misery and I hated doing it. But if I ask myself, genuinely, is one of these dogs MORE tortured than a battery hen... I dont know that it is. Of course, dogs are more sensitive and attractive animals (not in a sex way) than chickens - but I dont see why this should effect a legal judgment. I expected him to be punished, but to me a custodial sentence is a bit OTT. __________________ "Do not tell lies, and do not do what you hate, for all things are plain in the sight of Heaven. For nothing hidden will not become manifest, and nothing covered will remain without being uncovered." The Gospel of Thomas

12-10-2007, 12:25 PM	#6 (permalink)
Glory's Sun Registered User	He bankrolled the entire operation. That's why he received the sentence. It's sort of like going after the mob boss. Sure cattle are killed, poultry is killed yada yada yada. However, those animals are bred specifically for the purpose of providing a food source. Dogs are not .. at least not here. When a man sprays down a dog with a water hose then electrocutes it.. there's something mentally wrong there. The black and white matter of this.. he broke the law, he serves his time. It's pretty simple. He'll probably play in the NFL again.. although I doubt it will be at quarterback or with a top contending team. Can you say Ravens??

12-10-2007, 12:44 PM	#7 (permalink)
Ustwo Pissing in the cornflakes	Actually from what I heard, killing the dogs wasn't the issue, it was violating the dog fighting laws and gambling laws. Mind you I haven't read anything about this in quite a while. __________________ Agents of the enemies who hold office in our own government, who attempt to eliminate our "freedoms" and our "right to know" are posting among us, I fear.....on this very forum. - host Obama - Know a Man by the friends he keeps.

12-10-2007, 11:03 PM	#9 (permalink)
jorgelito All important elusive independent swing voter... Location: People's Republic of KKKalifornia	I wonder what kind of punishment one would get for torturing and killing a cow in India. Anyone have any idea?

12-11-2007, 06:44 AM	#10 (permalink)
Ustwo Pissing in the cornflakes	Unless its changed recently you can eat beef in India but you do get prison time for purposefully causing harm to a cow. I'm just going to guess that the beef would be imported. __________________ Agents of the enemies who hold office in our own government, who attempt to eliminate our "freedoms" and our "right to know" are posting among us, I fear.....on this very forum. - host Obama - Know a Man by the friends he keeps.

12-11-2007, 02:55 PM	#11 (permalink)
YaWhateva Friend Location: New Mexico	from what I hear he also hung dogs and he kept beagles(sp?) that he would basically feed to the pit bulls. Inflicting that kind of pain on any animal is worthy a bullet to the head, in my opinion. __________________ “If the Americans go in and overthrow Saddam Hussein and it's clean, he has nothing, I will apologize to the nation, and I will not trust the Bush administration again.” - Bill O'Reilly "This is my United States of Whateva!"

12-11-2007, 03:00 PM	#12 (permalink)
cheetahtank2 Upright Location: Everett, WA	well lets not forget either he himself never handled any of the dogs he did sponsor for it but, we cant know exactly how much about it he knew. Also as of now he is indefinitely suspended so he'll have to appeal for reinstatement and that'll prolly take a third season so he prolly if at all wont be eligible till he's 30 or so and probably not in shape anymore. As much as i enjoyed watchin him play i doubt he'll comeback.

12-17-2007, 04:57 AM	#13 (permalink)
Jadedfox Egocentric Location: World of Warcraft	I'd welcome him with open arms in Chicago, we need a QB! Just kidding. --jaded __________________ There is no fucking you, there is only me.