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JoeyB 06-16-2003 07:55 PM

Bagwell bagging it.
 
Jeff Bagwell's current contract runs out in 2006 and now reports indicate that he'll retire when his deal expires.

Who was the better Astro? Bagwell or Craig Biggio???

The_Dude 06-16-2003 10:15 PM

bagwell's the man.

astro's have a great lineup now, biggio, bagwell, berkman, kent. wow

Glory's Sun 06-17-2003 06:33 AM

I'd take Biggio over Bagwell. Biggio was more consitent and was of course a bigger threat on the bases. Bagwell *had* good power and was a good player but IMO Biggio was a better all around player.

MikeyChalupa 06-17-2003 08:24 AM

Needing help for their stretch run in 1990, the Red Sox traded Jeff Bagwell (then the MVP of the AA league in which he played that season) to the Phillies on Aug. 31 for RP Larry Andersen.

Andersen pitched in 15 games for the Sox that year, went 0-0 with 1 save, and left for San Diego in the offseason. He retired after 4 more years (the last two of which were back in Philly) where he is now a broadcaster.

ESPN ranked it #2 of the top ten worst deadline deals in MLB history.

-Mikey

Glory's Sun 06-17-2003 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MikeyChalupa
Needing help for their stretch run in 1990, the Red Sox traded Jeff Bagwell (then the MVP of the AA league in which he played that season) to the Phillies on Aug. 31 for RP Larry Andersen.

Andersen pitched in 15 games for the Sox that year, went 0-0 with 1 save, and left for San Diego in the offseason. He retired after 4 more years (the last two of which were back in Philly) where he is now a broadcaster.

ESPN ranked it #2 of the top ten worst deadline deals in MLB history.

-Mikey

As a Red Sox fan you get used to bad trades and bad deals.. *sigh*

Bobaphat 06-17-2003 08:46 AM

Bagwell is the better player in my opinion. I don't know if I believe that he will actually retire after this season either. He's only 35 and still can put up some big numbers. If he wants HOF consideration, I think he will need to stick it out a little longer.

JoeyB 06-17-2003 04:40 PM

ESPN also had an interesting question along these lines....(with thanks to MikeyChalupa for bringing up the trade)...


If the Red Sox hadn't traded Bagwell (who originally was a 3B in the minors), would he have taken over for Wade Boggs or Mo Vaughn???

livingitup101 06-17-2003 05:21 PM

Biggio's versatility is a plus. He went from Catcher to Second Base to the OF. But Bagwell's career numbers are more impressive. You expect that out of your 1B though. The production that Biggio gave from 2B was excellent.

BigGov 06-18-2003 10:21 AM

You can't really say who was better because they go hand in hand. Biggio had the duribility and the versatility to play any position and get on base reliably, while he needed the power hitting of Bagwell to drive him home.

gov135 06-18-2003 10:30 AM

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Originally posted by Jimmy4
You can't really say who was better because they go hand in hand. Biggio had the duribility and the versatility to play any position and get on base reliably, while he needed the power hitting of Bagwell to drive him home.
Couldn't have said it better myself.

I do think, that when they are said and done, Bagwell will be considered the better player, cause we look so favorably on numbers. Biggio has good numbers, but many of his contributions were not numbers related.

a_divine_martyr 06-19-2003 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by guccilvr
As a Red Sox fan you get used to bad trades and bad deals.. *sigh*
Although this year could be promising.

Pedro + Manny + Nomar = $$

And fuck Clemens for turning his back on the team that made him what he is.

MikeyChalupa 06-19-2003 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by a_divine_martyr


And fuck Clemens for turning his back on the team that made him what he is.

Hee hee... I think you mean fuck Duquette for turning HIS back on the pitcher Clemens became, right?

It's okay. We understand.

-Mikey

a_divine_martyr 06-19-2003 09:25 PM

Bah, fuck'em both!

:)

buffto 06-23-2003 05:10 AM

i hhhhaaaatttee biggio, that dick wears that huge plexiglass armor that makes him unafraid to crowd the plate and forces pitchers to not try and jam him, so he gets lots of hits. I take bagwell over biggio any day.

MikeyChalupa 06-24-2003 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by buffto
i hhhhaaaatttee biggio, that dick wears that huge plexiglass armor that makes him unafraid to crowd the plate and forces pitchers to not try and jam him, so he gets lots of hits. I take bagwell over biggio any day.
Who does that? Bonds? Yeah, I hate him too.

-Mikey

buffto 06-26-2003 09:40 AM

Yeah, i hate bonds as well, for more reasons than that, but since bonds wasn't mentioned yet, i decided not to think of him and give myself an aneurysm over him.


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