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Farcs18 · 08-07-2006, 10:16 AM

When Brock Lesnar decided he wanted to leave WWE in late 2003 he was forced to sign an "no compete" clause in his contract which meant that he wouldnt be able to wrestle for any other professional wrestling company until his current contract expired, this is in 2010.

He left WWE in March 2004 after his last match which was against Bill Goldberg at WrestleMania XX. He was tired of the constant travelling and and the schedule that wrestling put him into and at 24 was still a young man. The travelling the superstars of wwe do typically is in a word... constant, always in a different town each week and then there was the regular trips to Europe, Asia and Australia.

He left to persue his life long dream of becomming a professional football player (NFL). Now i dont know if this is true but it was rumored that Brock did not leave in the traditional way that wrestlers are supposed to, this being saying goodbye and thanking properly all of the people who helped you get to where you are and helped make you the superstar that you have become, and apparently the locker room was filled with people disapointed with Brock's decision since alot of people had made alot of effort to get him to where he was, which was the most recognised superstar in wrestling at the time and a 3 time WWE Champion and all inside of 2 years which is unheard of since most people have to pay their dues over the course of alot of years before they get that chance to go for any titles.

Since he didnt make it as a professional football player he decided he would go back to what he had grown up doing - Wrestling, in may 2005 he met up with Vince McMahon the Chairman & owner of WWE. They offered him a contract but after a few days of considering it he decided to withdraw from the negotiations completely and then launched a lawsiut against WWE claiming that the "no-compete" clause was unfair and preventing him from earning a living, in the mean time he chose to go to Japan and Wreslte for New Japan Pro Wrestling where he is currently their IWGP Heavyweight Champion.

The legal battle is still ongoing and either way it goes i think there is a good chance he might end up wrestling for WWE again one day...Heres why...

Vince clearly wanted him back otherwise they wouldnt have met up last year even though lesnar decided against it. I think vince was still annoyed that lesnar left in the first place and therefore wouldnt offer him as big a contract as he was once on, lesnar would not have accepted this as he had established himself as just about the biggest star in WWE so he went to japan where he was guaranteed to be one of the top guys.Once this legal battle is over, which ever way it goes...

Result 1: WWE wins and lesnar cant wrestle anywhere except wwe - THEY MIGHT ASWELL TAKE HIM BACK THEN! Would be pointles to just leave him there doing nothing, they would be stupid to not sign him at all and let him suffer, i know he left in the wrong way but he wouldnt deserve this! plus if they win then they would be guaranteed to have him if they wanted and not worry about anyone trying to sign him til 2010, so they mught aswell use him, the fans would be really pissed off if they signed him and didnt make him a top guy again, it would just be wrong because everyone knows how good for business he can be.

Result2: .Lesnar wins and he can wrestle anywhere...

wwe if they have any sense will offer him whatever he wants because lets face they need him bad because he is a huge help to them as far as being able to carry at main events and being in major stroylines, plus the fans react in a big way to him, be it good or bad. Furthermore WWE would really not like to lose him to another company like TNA because how stupid would they look then, its like they could have had him but no they couldnt just let bygons be bygons and get on with things and then would see another comapny like TNA doing really well because they have a real talent like Lesnar.

WWE know he is good for business and are better with him than without him at the end of the day and Vince must surely know this!

Toaster126 · 08-08-2006, 08:22 AM

http://www.maxfighting.com/index.cfm...etail&nid=1573

A MMA forum I frequent had a thread about Brock on it with a link to that article. Brock is currently trying to break into the MMA scene and is training with (in my opinion) the best camp in MMA. The article also states he has been stripped of his Japanese wrestling title or whatever.

So I guess my point is that I don't think he will be doing professional wrestling anymore, ever.

PredeconInferno · 08-08-2006, 10:56 AM

I always thought Broc was an impressive athlete. He was wrestling for the University of Minnesota while my brother attended it so I remember watching his wrestling career with interest... he was quite a sight to see. It's sad to me that he probably won't be doing any wrestling anymore.

If anything that man is impressive. My mother always commented that he looked like a batman villain.

Toaster126 · 08-08-2006, 03:37 PM

Well, if his training with MFS works out, you'll get to see him in an actual combat sport, which is great considering what a genetic freak of a man he is.

lindalove · 08-10-2006, 01:53 AM

You left out the allegation that WWE was fighting Lesnar for rights to use his own name when he went into football. The way I heard it, he had been signed and the E got into a skirmish with him because they claimed it would infringe on their intellectual property simply by using his name.

Toaster126 · 08-10-2006, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by lindalove

You left out the allegation that WWE was fighting Lesnar for rights to use his own name when he went into football. The way I heard it, he had been signed and the E got into a skirmish with him because they claimed it would infringe on their intellectual property simply by using his name.

Woah, that seems terrible that someone can prevent you from profiting from your own fucking name. I hope that worked out well for Brock.

lindalove · 08-10-2006, 05:09 AM

Brock recently was stripped of the IWGP belt for some reason I don't recall. He'll next be trying his hand at MMA in October, either for PRIDE or K1-Heroes. Depending on his success level in MMA, he could be doing that for a while, making a wrestling return in the short term unlikely. Just the fact that he can do MMA is progress in his WWE fight. He was orginally banned from doing that as well

If he gets back into it, it will be with WWE I imagine. TNA won't pay him what he will want although the schedule would probably appeal to him.

hossified · 08-11-2006, 05:52 AM

i dobut he'll cut it in the mma world......he's just too big which means, less flexible, and slow....and weaker cardio. Let's be realisic....no matter how hard he trains....a guy that big has to work sooo much harder to keep himself going, uses up so many more calories and oxygen, that he would just die after one round....yeah he's a freak alright, but he needs to be in the right sprot to compliment his size....

lindalove · 08-13-2006, 08:56 AM

pwinsider.com

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Last night in Las Vegas, Nevada, former World Champion Brock Lesnar announced that he has joined the K-1 organization. It had been expected for some time that Brock, who has been training for Mixed Marital Arts, would be announcing his affiliation with the group. MMA legend Royce Gracie announced that he would be training Lesnar, at the request of K-1. Lesnar is tentatively set to have his first fight in February of next year for K-1's HERO'S group.

Toaster126 · 08-14-2006, 01:09 AM

That's too bad. Given his physical gifts, I think he would have been better served training with MFS.

lindalove · 08-14-2006, 12:49 PM

I'm betting that K-1 wanted him to round out his training with some Judo, and who better to help with that than Royce Gracie?

Toaster126 · 08-14-2006, 04:28 PM

If they want him to learn subs, I'd send his ass to Pat Militech, Jeremy Horn or Dean Lister, not a lay and pray artist like Royce. The Gracies know their Jiu-jitsu, but aren't well rounded enough for current MMA competion. It certainly seems to me that given Brock's current skill set and physical gifts, I'd just as soon have him ground and pound as much as possible.

08-07-2006, 10:16 AM	#1 (permalink)
Farcs18 Upright Location: uk	The Future of Brock Lesnar When Brock Lesnar decided he wanted to leave WWE in late 2003 he was forced to sign an "no compete" clause in his contract which meant that he wouldnt be able to wrestle for any other professional wrestling company until his current contract expired, this is in 2010. He left WWE in March 2004 after his last match which was against Bill Goldberg at WrestleMania XX. He was tired of the constant travelling and and the schedule that wrestling put him into and at 24 was still a young man. The travelling the superstars of wwe do typically is in a word... constant, always in a different town each week and then there was the regular trips to Europe, Asia and Australia. He left to persue his life long dream of becomming a professional football player (NFL). Now i dont know if this is true but it was rumored that Brock did not leave in the traditional way that wrestlers are supposed to, this being saying goodbye and thanking properly all of the people who helped you get to where you are and helped make you the superstar that you have become, and apparently the locker room was filled with people disapointed with Brock's decision since alot of people had made alot of effort to get him to where he was, which was the most recognised superstar in wrestling at the time and a 3 time WWE Champion and all inside of 2 years which is unheard of since most people have to pay their dues over the course of alot of years before they get that chance to go for any titles. Since he didnt make it as a professional football player he decided he would go back to what he had grown up doing - Wrestling, in may 2005 he met up with Vince McMahon the Chairman & owner of WWE. They offered him a contract but after a few days of considering it he decided to withdraw from the negotiations completely and then launched a lawsiut against WWE claiming that the "no-compete" clause was unfair and preventing him from earning a living, in the mean time he chose to go to Japan and Wreslte for New Japan Pro Wrestling where he is currently their IWGP Heavyweight Champion. The legal battle is still ongoing and either way it goes i think there is a good chance he might end up wrestling for WWE again one day...Heres why... Vince clearly wanted him back otherwise they wouldnt have met up last year even though lesnar decided against it. I think vince was still annoyed that lesnar left in the first place and therefore wouldnt offer him as big a contract as he was once on, lesnar would not have accepted this as he had established himself as just about the biggest star in WWE so he went to japan where he was guaranteed to be one of the top guys.Once this legal battle is over, which ever way it goes... Result 1: WWE wins and lesnar cant wrestle anywhere except wwe - THEY MIGHT ASWELL TAKE HIM BACK THEN! Would be pointles to just leave him there doing nothing, they would be stupid to not sign him at all and let him suffer, i know he left in the wrong way but he wouldnt deserve this! plus if they win then they would be guaranteed to have him if they wanted and not worry about anyone trying to sign him til 2010, so they mught aswell use him, the fans would be really pissed off if they signed him and didnt make him a top guy again, it would just be wrong because everyone knows how good for business he can be. Result2: .Lesnar wins and he can wrestle anywhere... wwe if they have any sense will offer him whatever he wants because lets face they need him bad because he is a huge help to them as far as being able to carry at main events and being in major stroylines, plus the fans react in a big way to him, be it good or bad. Furthermore WWE would really not like to lose him to another company like TNA because how stupid would they look then, its like they could have had him but no they couldnt just let bygons be bygons and get on with things and then would see another comapny like TNA doing really well because they have a real talent like Lesnar. WWE know he is good for business and are better with him than without him at the end of the day and Vince must surely know this! __________________ My Lifestyle Determins My Deathstyle! Brock Lesnar - Here Comes The Pain!

08-08-2006, 08:22 AM	#2 (permalink)
Toaster126 Extreme moderation Location: Kansas City, yo.	http://www.maxfighting.com/index.cfm...etail&nid=1573 A MMA forum I frequent had a thread about Brock on it with a link to that article. Brock is currently trying to break into the MMA scene and is training with (in my opinion) the best camp in MMA. The article also states he has been stripped of his Japanese wrestling title or whatever. So I guess my point is that I don't think he will be doing professional wrestling anymore, ever. __________________ "The question isn't who is going to let me, it's who is going to stop me." (Ayn Rand) "The truth is that our finest moments are most likely to occur when we are feeling deeply uncomfortable, unhappy, or unfulfilled. For it is only in such moments, propelled by our discomfort, that we are likely to step out of our ruts and start searching for different ways or truer answers." (M. Scott Peck)

08-08-2006, 10:56 AM	#3 (permalink)
PredeconInferno Reclusiarch Location: Unfortunately Houston, TX	I always thought Broc was an impressive athlete. He was wrestling for the University of Minnesota while my brother attended it so I remember watching his wrestling career with interest... he was quite a sight to see. It's sad to me that he probably won't be doing any wrestling anymore. If anything that man is impressive. My mother always commented that he looked like a batman villain. __________________ Samurai in Training Knowledge is power. Guard it well.

08-08-2006, 03:37 PM	#4 (permalink)
Toaster126 Extreme moderation Location: Kansas City, yo.	Well, if his training with MFS works out, you'll get to see him in an actual combat sport, which is great considering what a genetic freak of a man he is. __________________ "The question isn't who is going to let me, it's who is going to stop me." (Ayn Rand) "The truth is that our finest moments are most likely to occur when we are feeling deeply uncomfortable, unhappy, or unfulfilled. For it is only in such moments, propelled by our discomfort, that we are likely to step out of our ruts and start searching for different ways or truer answers." (M. Scott Peck)

08-14-2006, 01:09 AM	#10 (permalink)
Toaster126 Extreme moderation Location: Kansas City, yo.	That's too bad. Given his physical gifts, I think he would have been better served training with MFS. __________________ "The question isn't who is going to let me, it's who is going to stop me." (Ayn Rand) "The truth is that our finest moments are most likely to occur when we are feeling deeply uncomfortable, unhappy, or unfulfilled. For it is only in such moments, propelled by our discomfort, that we are likely to step out of our ruts and start searching for different ways or truer answers." (M. Scott Peck)

08-10-2006, 01:53 AM	#5 (permalink)
lindalove Registered User	You left out the allegation that WWE was fighting Lesnar for rights to use his own name when he went into football. The way I heard it, he had been signed and the E got into a skirmish with him because they claimed it would infringe on their intellectual property simply by using his name.

08-10-2006, 05:09 AM	#7 (permalink)
lindalove Registered User	Brock recently was stripped of the IWGP belt for some reason I don't recall. He'll next be trying his hand at MMA in October, either for PRIDE or K1-Heroes. Depending on his success level in MMA, he could be doing that for a while, making a wrestling return in the short term unlikely. Just the fact that he can do MMA is progress in his WWE fight. He was orginally banned from doing that as well If he gets back into it, it will be with WWE I imagine. TNA won't pay him what he will want although the schedule would probably appeal to him.

08-11-2006, 05:52 AM	#8 (permalink)
hossified face f$cker Location: canada	i dobut he'll cut it in the mma world......he's just too big which means, less flexible, and slow....and weaker cardio. Let's be realisic....no matter how hard he trains....a guy that big has to work sooo much harder to keep himself going, uses up so many more calories and oxygen, that he would just die after one round....yeah he's a freak alright, but he needs to be in the right sprot to compliment his size....

08-14-2006, 12:49 PM	#11 (permalink)
lindalove Registered User	I'm betting that K-1 wanted him to round out his training with some Judo, and who better to help with that than Royce Gracie?

08-14-2006, 04:28 PM	#12 (permalink)
Toaster126 Extreme moderation Location: Kansas City, yo.	If they want him to learn subs, I'd send his ass to Pat Militech, Jeremy Horn or Dean Lister, not a lay and pray artist like Royce. The Gracies know their Jiu-jitsu, but aren't well rounded enough for current MMA competion. It certainly seems to me that given Brock's current skill set and physical gifts, I'd just as soon have him ground and pound as much as possible. __________________ "The question isn't who is going to let me, it's who is going to stop me." (Ayn Rand) "The truth is that our finest moments are most likely to occur when we are feeling deeply uncomfortable, unhappy, or unfulfilled. For it is only in such moments, propelled by our discomfort, that we are likely to step out of our ruts and start searching for different ways or truer answers." (M. Scott Peck)