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Johnny Pyro · 01-02-2006, 10:45 PM

Ok, I just want to start and say this forum is the greatest place on the internet. Its amazing! I'm never alone. I love and respect all of you. I trust and confide in you. I'm not embarrassed or ashamed of any problems and thoughts I share with you. The most amazing people are on here and I am grateful to have you guys. Thank you for always being there for me. Love, Johnny.

With that out of the way................I have a sexual problem.

My sexual history is vast. I started having sex at 16. I used condoms all the time. When I was 19, I had a girlfriend of 3 months. We didn't use condoms because she was on the pill. I don't really remember how good the sex was. All I can remember is that there was no hassle of putting on a condom. So other then that, I always used a condom. I belive in safe sex and I don't want babies, yet! That was five years ago. I'm 24 now. So, five years of condoms use, untill now.

I met this girl (19

) and we started having sex. No condoms. Shes on the pill.

Everytime I put it in, WOW! I'm done! I finish very fast! It's like butter! It is the most amazing feeling! We had sex like seven times and its about a total of 15 minutes. So thats about two minutes a session. I try hard to think of something else while I'm having sex to get my mind off cumming. I can't! I masturbate before she comes over. Doesn't help. She's cool about it. I tell her it's too good and I've used condoms all my life. I'm three pump Johnny.

So my questions are:

Is it because of using condoms all my life? I mean, it feels incredible!
Will this pass? Will I get use to it? Can I rebuild my stamina?

I'm scared. I'm scared this won't go away. Please help!

tec-9-7 · 01-02-2006, 10:51 PM

Chief, I used condoms exclusively for over 15 years... It's way different when you switch out of them, as you've noticed. The only thing I can tell you is that eventually it does get to the point of not happening so quickly. Beyond that, all I can say is that if you can recover quickly, hop back into the saddle, as it were...

snowy · 01-02-2006, 10:51 PM

You can rebuild your stamina. No worries. It will just take time.

Furthermore, not every girl is interested in being pounded for hours on end. Focus on finesse and good foreplay, and those two minutes can be more than enough for the both of you. But yeah, a little more would probably be good

And personally, being told "it's too good" is the compliment of a lifetime

She's cool with it for a reason--you've made her feel like a sex goddess.

And hell, Johnny, you're so hot it wouldn't matter!

feelgood · 01-02-2006, 10:52 PM

No. Condoms are like a pass to the land of happy.

What I mean is that it might give you the idea that you're safe, free of any worry that you might end up with some kind of disease or end up getting your partner pregant.

The reality is this: There's always risk. You might have gotten used to the concept that condoms are the ultimate protection and they are not.

You can rebuild your stamina, it might just take time. Say, don't wear condom once in a while and eventually build up to the point where you don't wear condom and you're able to keep on having amazing sex that last hours. The point is: Condoms aren't the ultimate haven. The ultimate haven is your ability to acknownledge the risk and the ability to deal with it.

Of course, love is involved.

Disclaimer: I'm drunk and my opinion isn't exactly valid

Johnny Pyro · 01-02-2006, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by tec-9-7

Chief, I used condoms exclusively for over 15 years... It's way different when you switch out of them, as you've noticed.

Wow! I never new it was that good! I've been so used to the rubber.

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Originally Posted by onesnowyowl

Focus on finesse and good foreplay, and those two minutes can be more than enough for the both of you.

I agree and I do. Lots of kissing and oral. I like foreplay anyway. I'm also a cuddle bunny!

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Originally Posted by feelgood

No. Condoms are like a pass to the land of happy.

Uhmmm..no. Condoms are like a pass to the land of no feeling. Condoms help prevent STD's and pregnacy, but they suck. I believe in condoms and think they should always be used, but she's a good girl and we are both healthy.

snowy · 01-02-2006, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Pyro

I agree and I do. Lots of kissing and oral. I like foreplay anyway. I'm also a cuddle bunny!

Then, as far as I am concerned from a female perspective, you are set. Seriously. No worries.

MageB420666 · 01-02-2006, 11:26 PM

Yeah, there is a big sensation difference when not using condoms. Try masurbation more often, and don't use lube. It could help to desensitize you. There is nothing wrong with having an orgasm or multiple ones before she cums, just so long as you can keep on going till she cums too.

SERPENT7 · 01-03-2006, 12:02 AM

I think it is a realy stooopid idea to deliberately de-sensitize yourself to one of the funnest things you can do with your body!

Do all you can to please her prior to insertion, and then after, its all you!

Or you can insert and not move around in side her at all. Just lay on top (Or under, or side by side, or w/e) and let your hands and mouth do all of the work!

cellophanedeity · 01-03-2006, 12:12 AM

Keep being a snuggle bunny, and you'll be fine!

It can almost be flattering when the guy orgasms quickly. "Oh my, he must really be enjoying this"

Suave · 01-03-2006, 12:33 AM

In a lot of cases, I hear it's mental. When you're having sex, make sure you focus on the sensation. Don't even think about orgasm; don't try for it, and don't think about avoiding it. Keep the thought completely out of your mind. That, or pull out every 30 seconds and dip your knob in a bucket of ice water.

Martian · 01-03-2006, 12:41 AM

Yeah, dude, you're good.

I feel bad for guys who've never had sex without a condom. I mean, I advocate condoms because of the protection offered, but they do tend to dull the sensation.

In any case, keep doing what you're doing. She's not going to care if you're a two-pump chump so long as she gets hers beforehand.

pig · 01-03-2006, 04:18 AM

Johnny,

What a great problem to have. In my experience, I'm going to suggest a combination of working on your breathing technique, and keeping it simple for the first 2-5 minutes. I would suggest long, deep breath to control yourself from getting too involved; your emotions are tied to your breath, and you can control your levels of excitement to some extent. When you get started, do you try to go in like gangbusters? I might suggest giving a couple of minutes just for your little man to get used to the sensation of being in...I can usually detect a moment when he's ready to get bizzy; after that its all bets off.

Regardless, keep up the foreplay and postplay action and you'll probably be fine. It's better than the problem of never getting off.

ratbastid · 01-03-2006, 07:14 AM

What does she say about this? Is it a problem for her, or an ego thing for you?

Johnny Pyro · 01-03-2006, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ratbastid

What does she say about this? Is it a problem for her, or an ego thing for you?

Its pretty much just an ego thing for me. Far as I know she's fine with it, which I find shocking. It really doesn't phase her. It's my problem. Even though I orgasm, it really bothers me.

indebut · 01-03-2006, 09:23 AM

can you go any longer with her on top? I seem to be able to last almost twice as long when my wife is on top versus me being on top. I find that if she controls the pace, I can go much longer than if I do.

Seaver · 01-03-2006, 10:33 AM

A wise man once told me..

"If you ever find yourself with problems in the bedroom, just double-down on the oral."

That advice has yet to let me down.

Outside of that, alter slightly what you're doing. When I'm ontop I can control if I'm out to please her, which makes me last longer (The Seaver Conceiver dubbed by Suave lol). The grinding is more pleasurable to her than me, although it feels great I last much longer.

Work on your peeing muscles (forgot the name). Basically the muscles in your penis which you would contract to stop yourself from peeing, do these exercises throughout the day. When you find yourself on the verge, contract the muscles. This will help you in two ways, first it will prevent cumming for about 20 or so seconds. Second when you DO release... it'll be an explosive orgasm instead of a just regular one.

Open up with the Lotus Blossom position. Girls love it, and because of the position it will generally give you a lot longer stamina. Generally my SO climaxes off this so when it's my turn I can just lay her down on her back or bend her over for some good ol' doggy style (what male doesnt cum after only a couple sec of good doggy?).

And finally, if after all these tips you're still at 10second assasin, simply change positions when you're about to cum. This, however, might backfire if she's about to cum. Plus a good sex session generally includes no more than 3 position switches, because it resets everyone back to 0 orgasm wise.

Anyways, enjoy life free of the rubber. Seriously... having sex with a condom is like eating food with the platic wrap still on.

Sage · 01-03-2006, 10:47 AM

I say, have another discussion with her when you're not in the bedroom. She's 19, she might not know everything she wants out of sex. Have a nice, adult conversation with her, and explain to her that it's bothering your ego. You want her to be pleased, that's important to you. MAKE SURE SHE'S PLEASED. Some girls don't have an orgasm from penetration anyway, so the big shebang (pun intended) is from before penetration- oral, digital, that sort of thing.

Doubling-down on the oral is always good advice, but remember that the road to a happy relationship is paved with lots and lots of COMMUNICATION.

Toaster126 · 01-03-2006, 06:23 PM

Not to be the thread buzzkill here, but I would have trouble believing someone who told me that something of this nature wasn't a problem. As a person who has never had vaginal sex without a condom, all I can reccomend is more foreplay, more oral, and some alone-Johnny-time where you focus on lasting longer as practice.

Impetuous1 · 01-03-2006, 08:33 PM

Oops! Double post. Sorry.

Impetuous1 · 01-03-2006, 08:34 PM

Have you tried slowing down after you're in? If you get too excited and you can hear from her breathing that she's not there yet, take a little break and maybe play with her nipples. Or change positions. Then start again. If she's really ready, then she'll start slamming herself against you. Then, at that time, you can really let loose. Also, I think Seaver's idea about practicing control of your peeing muscles is pretty good.

I think the fact that you do oral and cuddling is a very good sign. You really don't have anything to worry about.

analog · 01-03-2006, 09:34 PM

The transition often takes time to get used to it... plus she might also be a little *tighter* than you were used to before... but persist, and you'll get your stamina back up.

SirLance · 01-03-2006, 10:10 PM

Hey, don't think yourself into having a problem just because you're afraid you're having a problem. Not enough no-condom experience yet. Keep up what you're doing and give it some time.

MageB420666 · 01-03-2006, 10:17 PM

Just FYI, the "peeing muscle" exercise has a name.... Kegel Exercises

crow_daw · 01-04-2006, 12:42 AM

Yeah man, I know where you're coming from. I've definitely had to deal with this before. I'm sure there are many different ways to attack this problem, and I'm sure something different works for everyone, but I discovered a technique that has thus far seemed to work rather well for me. It seems simple, and it is, but it's effective (again, for me).

It's called something like the start-and-stop technique, I believe. It basically is just masturbating (dry) until the point of climax and then stopping right before you actually get off, and then starting again, for roughly fifteen minutes. Do that however often you like until you can last fifteen minutes without stopping (you can slow down and whatnot during the transition period). Afterwards, just continue the same technique with lubricant, once again until you reach your ultimate goal of fifteen minutes.

Apparently, this helps you understand how to better control your body and your excitement level. Which of course makes sense, but whatever it does, it has worked well for me.

Good luck.

james t kirk · 01-07-2006, 08:26 PM

When I was 19, I would last about 15 seconds.

But the great thing about being 19 was that it never went down. As long as there was a naked female in the bed with me, I could cum, and keep it up.

Alas with age, this rarely happens anymore.

However, a good thing does happen is that you gain A LOT of control. Or at least I have.

In my experience there are some positions that I rarely if ever cum in. Doggie style for example (my least favourite by the way). I never cum in this position, wheras missionary is usually a guarantee. Woman on top is somewhere in the middle.

So try that.

Also, if you masturbate before you see her, you will be less worked up and this may help delay your orgasm. Assuming that you are able to re-erect after cumming. Some guys are ruined after cumming just once for a day or 2.

The start and stop method has been mentioned and I must agree. After a while of starting and stopping, Mr. Happy finally just packs it in and you can't cum even if you want to.

Besides the no condom thing, I have noticed over the years that some women's pussies are much warmer than others. The warm ones tend to bring me off very quickly. Same with wetness. Some women literally drip love juice, others are as dry as sand paper. The wetter she is, the sooner I am going to cum.

So many variables eh.

CrAzEd · 01-08-2006, 04:56 PM

I've never not used a condom, is there really THAT big of a difference? I thought condoms were thin enough that they didnt even really make a difference

Mantus · 01-08-2006, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CrAzEd

I've never not used a condom, is there really THAT big of a difference? I thought condoms were thin enough that they didnt even really make a difference

Night and day.

Aladdin Sane · 01-08-2006, 06:48 PM

Johnny, does she orgasm from oral or other types of sex play before you fuck? I would just make sure she is satisfied before you put it in her. Someone mentioned it before, but lots of women never cum from penetration anyway-- especially 19 year old women.
I was a premature ejaculator as a young man. The very second I got in there I would cum. It was embarrassing. It was really worrisome for me. The good thing was I could keep it up even if I had cum. I don't necesarily have any more control now, its just that I've grown used to the feeling. It takes me longer to get there now. But oh my gosh how incredible it felt when I was younger. Wow. Don't get me wrong, there's still nothing that compares, but I can take it now without immediately cumming.
Talk to her about it. Ask for her help. Tell her to stop moving when you feel the pressure build. Lay still in each others arms until it subsides, then go at it again. Repeat.
It is easy to tell you not to think about it ( I never could forget it). But lots of it is mental.

Good luck!

kramus · 01-08-2006, 07:18 PM

I am one with the stop/start thing. You can gently rock away, and keep sliding out to rock the base of your courting tackle against her tingly bits when you feel a little extra tingly yourself. A smooth transition is the key. Coupled with a lot of you lifting and stroking her body with your hands, and you working your mouth and throat up and down the territory between her ear, down her throat, and past the breasts right to the belly button (an occassional dip for a taste is never amis), will make the whole thing a whole body experience. Breathing, moving together, and a bit of sweet talk . . .

Rock on, Johnny

Johnny Pyro · 01-10-2006, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Aladdin Sane

Johnny, does she orgasm from oral or other types of sex play before you fuck?

Not really? I do about an hour of foreplay and oral before I "stick it in." I did that before, when I wore condoms anyways. I really like foreplay. I could finger bang her untill she gets off, but I usually refrain. My wrist gets cramped easily.

I started going slower and she gets off fast in doggie. Really fast! So I usually make her cum everytime now. I can last a little bit longer now. If I feel like I'm going to cum, I just stop and kiss her for a while, then I go back to it. I masturbate about two times before she comes over, but it doesn't really matter. I still feel like I'm going to explode as soon as I enter.

I'm working on it and getting better. Thanks for your help.

gh0ti · 01-10-2006, 02:02 PM

I had this problem most of my sexual life. I read a few threads about the subject here on TFP a couple of months back.. The Kegal exercises didn’t really work for me. I found that concentrating on breathing and focusing on the feelings involved worked best. Breathe deeply, and when you feel like your anywhere close, slow way down and work on something else (kissing, massaging, etc). Then you can get back to trusting.

Another tip that works is to use your hips to thrust and make sure you relax your ass muscles. For what ever reason when you tighten up back there, it seems to speed up the process a bit.

It takes a little practice, but it beats the hell out of thinking about calculus…

World's King · 01-10-2006, 02:24 PM

Can I have her number when you two break up?

Glory's Sun · 01-10-2006, 02:27 PM

dead puppies dead puppies dead puppies...

Mantus · 01-10-2006, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by gh0ti

I found that concentrating on breathing and focusing on the feelings involved worked best.

Yes! Sex is supposed to be FUN. Further, I wan't a mind blowing orgasm too. And if it comes between me having one and her having one, I am sorry baby but there are plenty more fish in the sea.

For control, it's all about knowing oneself, how your work and what makes you tick. Then you have real control and confidence.

The biggest scam is kegels. The only thing they are good for is being able to shoot cum over her head. Which is a neat trick, so it might be worth it.

Tachion · 01-10-2006, 06:45 PM

Well this is an approach which is more about educating her about you and you about her.

Try the game - you CANNOT make the person cum. You can get them close but you cannot let them go over the edge.

This not only will bring the moment of cumming (it will happen -nobody is perfect!) to a new height but each will become very aware of what the other person is feeling. It makes you focus intently on it as you are trying so hard to get it so close then stop.

Johnny Pyro · 01-11-2006, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Mantus

The biggest scam is kegels. The only thing they are good for is being able to shoot cum over her head. Which is a neat trick, so it might be worth it.

Ooooooo! I would get in big trouble if I did that!

Marburg · 01-28-2006, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Mantus

The biggest scam is kegels. The only thing they are good for is being able to shoot cum over her head. Which is a neat trick, so it might be worth it.

Oh god, I just laughed for a good five minutes.
As an aside: they're also a good way to keep yourself from falling asleep during a particularly boring lecture.

01-02-2006, 10:45 PM	#1 (permalink)
Johnny Pyro Hey Now! Location: Massachusetts (Redneck, white boy town. I hate it here.)	Three pump Johnny Ok, I just want to start and say this forum is the greatest place on the internet. Its amazing! I'm never alone. I love and respect all of you. I trust and confide in you. I'm not embarrassed or ashamed of any problems and thoughts I share with you. The most amazing people are on here and I am grateful to have you guys. Thank you for always being there for me. Love, Johnny. With that out of the way................I have a sexual problem. My sexual history is vast. I started having sex at 16. I used condoms all the time. When I was 19, I had a girlfriend of 3 months. We didn't use condoms because she was on the pill. I don't really remember how good the sex was. All I can remember is that there was no hassle of putting on a condom. So other then that, I always used a condom. I belive in safe sex and I don't want babies, yet! That was five years ago. I'm 24 now. So, five years of condoms use, untill now. I met this girl (19 ) and we started having sex. No condoms. Shes on the pill. Everytime I put it in, WOW! I'm done! I finish very fast! It's like butter! It is the most amazing feeling! We had sex like seven times and its about a total of 15 minutes. So thats about two minutes a session. I try hard to think of something else while I'm having sex to get my mind off cumming. I can't! I masturbate before she comes over. Doesn't help. She's cool about it. I tell her it's too good and I've used condoms all my life. I'm three pump Johnny. So my questions are: Is it because of using condoms all my life? I mean, it feels incredible! Will this pass? Will I get use to it? Can I rebuild my stamina? I'm scared. I'm scared this won't go away. Please help! __________________ "From delusion lead me to truth, from darkness lead me to light, from death lead me to eternal life. - Sheriff John Wydell

01-02-2006, 10:51 PM	#3 (permalink)
snowy Kick Ass Kunoichi Location: Oregon	You can rebuild your stamina. No worries. It will just take time. Furthermore, not every girl is interested in being pounded for hours on end. Focus on finesse and good foreplay, and those two minutes can be more than enough for the both of you. But yeah, a little more would probably be good And personally, being told "it's too good" is the compliment of a lifetime She's cool with it for a reason--you've made her feel like a sex goddess. And hell, Johnny, you're so hot it wouldn't matter! __________________ If I am not better, at least I am different. --Jean-Jacques Rousseau

01-02-2006, 11:26 PM	#7 (permalink)
MageB420666 <Insert wise statement here> Location: Hell if I know	Yeah, there is a big sensation difference when not using condoms. Try masurbation more often, and don't use lube. It could help to desensitize you. There is nothing wrong with having an orgasm or multiple ones before she cums, just so long as you can keep on going till she cums too. __________________ Apathy: The best outlook this side of I don't give a damn.

01-03-2006, 12:33 AM	#10 (permalink)
Suave Twitterpated Location: My own little world (also Canada)	In a lot of cases, I hear it's mental. When you're having sex, make sure you focus on the sensation. Don't even think about orgasm; don't try for it, and don't think about avoiding it. Keep the thought completely out of your mind. That, or pull out every 30 seconds and dip your knob in a bucket of ice water. __________________ "Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are even incapable of forming such opinions." - Albert Einstein "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something." - Plato

01-03-2006, 12:41 AM	#11 (permalink)
Martian Young Crumudgeon Location: Canada	Yeah, dude, you're good. I feel bad for guys who've never had sex without a condom. I mean, I advocate condoms because of the protection offered, but they do tend to dull the sensation. In any case, keep doing what you're doing. She's not going to care if you're a two-pump chump so long as she gets hers beforehand. __________________ I wake up in the morning more tired than before I slept I get through cryin' and I'm sadder than before I wept I get through thinkin' now, and the thoughts have left my head I get through speakin' and I can't remember, not a word that I said - Ben Harper, Show Me A Little Shame

01-02-2006, 10:51 PM	#2 (permalink)
tec-9-7 Insane Location: Rainy Washington	Chief, I used condoms exclusively for over 15 years... It's way different when you switch out of them, as you've noticed. The only thing I can tell you is that eventually it does get to the point of not happening so quickly. Beyond that, all I can say is that if you can recover quickly, hop back into the saddle, as it were...

01-02-2006, 10:52 PM	#4 (permalink)
feelgood Free Mars! Location: I dunno, there's white people around me saying "eh" all the time	No. Condoms are like a pass to the land of happy. What I mean is that it might give you the idea that you're safe, free of any worry that you might end up with some kind of disease or end up getting your partner pregant. The reality is this: There's always risk. You might have gotten used to the concept that condoms are the ultimate protection and they are not. You can rebuild your stamina, it might just take time. Say, don't wear condom once in a while and eventually build up to the point where you don't wear condom and you're able to keep on having amazing sex that last hours. The point is: Condoms aren't the ultimate haven. The ultimate haven is your ability to acknownledge the risk and the ability to deal with it. Of course, love is involved. Disclaimer: I'm drunk and my opinion isn't exactly valid

01-03-2006, 12:02 AM	#8 (permalink)
SERPENT7 Crazy Location: Gold country!	I think it is a realy stooopid idea to deliberately de-sensitize yourself to one of the funnest things you can do with your body! Do all you can to please her prior to insertion, and then after, its all you! Or you can insert and not move around in side her at all. Just lay on top (Or under, or side by side, or w/e) and let your hands and mouth do all of the work!

01-03-2006, 12:12 AM	#9 (permalink)
cellophanedeity Heliotrope Location: A warm room	Keep being a snuggle bunny, and you'll be fine! It can almost be flattering when the guy orgasms quickly. "Oh my, he must really be enjoying this"

01-03-2006, 04:18 AM	#12 (permalink)
pig pigglet pigglet Location: Locash	Johnny, What a great problem to have. In my experience, I'm going to suggest a combination of working on your breathing technique, and keeping it simple for the first 2-5 minutes. I would suggest long, deep breath to control yourself from getting too involved; your emotions are tied to your breath, and you can control your levels of excitement to some extent. When you get started, do you try to go in like gangbusters? I might suggest giving a couple of minutes just for your little man to get used to the sensation of being in...I can usually detect a moment when he's ready to get bizzy; after that its all bets off. Regardless, keep up the foreplay and postplay action and you'll probably be fine. It's better than the problem of never getting off. __________________ You don't love me, you just love my piggy style

01-03-2006, 07:14 AM	#13 (permalink)
ratbastid Darth Papa Location: Yonder	What does she say about this? Is it a problem for her, or an ego thing for you?

01-03-2006, 09:23 AM	#15 (permalink)
indebut Crazy Location: Ohio	can you go any longer with her on top? I seem to be able to last almost twice as long when my wife is on top versus me being on top. I find that if she controls the pace, I can go much longer than if I do.

01-03-2006, 10:33 AM	#16 (permalink)
Seaver Junkie Location: Fort Worth, TX	A wise man once told me.. "If you ever find yourself with problems in the bedroom, just double-down on the oral." That advice has yet to let me down. Outside of that, alter slightly what you're doing. When I'm ontop I can control if I'm out to please her, which makes me last longer (The Seaver Conceiver dubbed by Suave lol). The grinding is more pleasurable to her than me, although it feels great I last much longer. Work on your peeing muscles (forgot the name). Basically the muscles in your penis which you would contract to stop yourself from peeing, do these exercises throughout the day. When you find yourself on the verge, contract the muscles. This will help you in two ways, first it will prevent cumming for about 20 or so seconds. Second when you DO release... it'll be an explosive orgasm instead of a just regular one. Open up with the Lotus Blossom position. Girls love it, and because of the position it will generally give you a lot longer stamina. Generally my SO climaxes off this so when it's my turn I can just lay her down on her back or bend her over for some good ol' doggy style (what male doesnt cum after only a couple sec of good doggy?). And finally, if after all these tips you're still at 10second assasin, simply change positions when you're about to cum. This, however, might backfire if she's about to cum. Plus a good sex session generally includes no more than 3 position switches, because it resets everyone back to 0 orgasm wise. Anyways, enjoy life free of the rubber. Seriously... having sex with a condom is like eating food with the platic wrap still on. Last edited by Seaver; 01-03-2006 at 10:45 AM..

01-03-2006, 10:47 AM	#17 (permalink)
Sage hoarding all the big girl panties since 2005 Location: North side	I say, have another discussion with her when you're not in the bedroom. She's 19, she might not know everything she wants out of sex. Have a nice, adult conversation with her, and explain to her that it's bothering your ego. You want her to be pleased, that's important to you. MAKE SURE SHE'S PLEASED. Some girls don't have an orgasm from penetration anyway, so the big shebang (pun intended) is from before penetration- oral, digital, that sort of thing. Doubling-down on the oral is always good advice, but remember that the road to a happy relationship is paved with lots and lots of COMMUNICATION. __________________ Sage knows our mythic history, King Arthur's and Sir Caradoc's She answers hard acrostics, has a pretty taste for paradox She quotes in elegiacs all the crimes of Heliogabalus In conics she can floor peculiarities parabolous -C'hi

01-03-2006, 06:23 PM	#18 (permalink)
Toaster126 Extreme moderation Location: Kansas City, yo.	Not to be the thread buzzkill here, but I would have trouble believing someone who told me that something of this nature wasn't a problem. As a person who has never had vaginal sex without a condom, all I can reccomend is more foreplay, more oral, and some alone-Johnny-time where you focus on lasting longer as practice. __________________ "The question isn't who is going to let me, it's who is going to stop me." (Ayn Rand) "The truth is that our finest moments are most likely to occur when we are feeling deeply uncomfortable, unhappy, or unfulfilled. For it is only in such moments, propelled by our discomfort, that we are likely to step out of our ruts and start searching for different ways or truer answers." (M. Scott Peck)

01-03-2006, 08:33 PM	#19 (permalink)
Impetuous1 Insane Location: Arizona	Oops! Double post. Sorry. Last edited by Impetuous1; 01-03-2006 at 08:35 PM..

01-03-2006, 08:34 PM	#20 (permalink)
Impetuous1 Insane Location: Arizona	Have you tried slowing down after you're in? If you get too excited and you can hear from her breathing that she's not there yet, take a little break and maybe play with her nipples. Or change positions. Then start again. If she's really ready, then she'll start slamming herself against you. Then, at that time, you can really let loose. Also, I think Seaver's idea about practicing control of your peeing muscles is pretty good. I think the fact that you do oral and cuddling is a very good sign. You really don't have anything to worry about.

01-03-2006, 09:34 PM	#21 (permalink)
analog Banned	The transition often takes time to get used to it... plus she might also be a little tighter than you were used to before... but persist, and you'll get your stamina back up.

01-03-2006, 10:10 PM	#22 (permalink)
SirLance Junkie Location: In the middle of the desert.	Hey, don't think yourself into having a problem just because you're afraid you're having a problem. Not enough no-condom experience yet. Keep up what you're doing and give it some time. __________________ DEMOCRACY is where your vote counts, FEUDALISM is where your count votes.

01-03-2006, 10:17 PM	#23 (permalink)
MageB420666 <Insert wise statement here> Location: Hell if I know	Just FYI, the "peeing muscle" exercise has a name.... Kegel Exercises __________________ Apathy: The best outlook this side of I don't give a damn.

01-04-2006, 12:42 AM	#24 (permalink)
crow_daw Idolator Location: Vol Country	Yeah man, I know where you're coming from. I've definitely had to deal with this before. I'm sure there are many different ways to attack this problem, and I'm sure something different works for everyone, but I discovered a technique that has thus far seemed to work rather well for me. It seems simple, and it is, but it's effective (again, for me). It's called something like the start-and-stop technique, I believe. It basically is just masturbating (dry) until the point of climax and then stopping right before you actually get off, and then starting again, for roughly fifteen minutes. Do that however often you like until you can last fifteen minutes without stopping (you can slow down and whatnot during the transition period). Afterwards, just continue the same technique with lubricant, once again until you reach your ultimate goal of fifteen minutes. Apparently, this helps you understand how to better control your body and your excitement level. Which of course makes sense, but whatever it does, it has worked well for me. Good luck. __________________ "We each have a star, all we have to do is find it. Once you do, everyone who sees it will be blinded." - Earl Simmons

01-07-2006, 08:26 PM	#25 (permalink)
james t kirk Junkie Location: Toronto	When I was 19, I would last about 15 seconds. But the great thing about being 19 was that it never went down. As long as there was a naked female in the bed with me, I could cum, and keep it up. Alas with age, this rarely happens anymore. However, a good thing does happen is that you gain A LOT of control. Or at least I have. In my experience there are some positions that I rarely if ever cum in. Doggie style for example (my least favourite by the way). I never cum in this position, wheras missionary is usually a guarantee. Woman on top is somewhere in the middle. So try that. Also, if you masturbate before you see her, you will be less worked up and this may help delay your orgasm. Assuming that you are able to re-erect after cumming. Some guys are ruined after cumming just once for a day or 2. The start and stop method has been mentioned and I must agree. After a while of starting and stopping, Mr. Happy finally just packs it in and you can't cum even if you want to. Besides the no condom thing, I have noticed over the years that some women's pussies are much warmer than others. The warm ones tend to bring me off very quickly. Same with wetness. Some women literally drip love juice, others are as dry as sand paper. The wetter she is, the sooner I am going to cum. So many variables eh.

01-08-2006, 04:56 PM	#26 (permalink)
CrAzEd Upright	I've never not used a condom, is there really THAT big of a difference? I thought condoms were thin enough that they didnt even really make a difference

01-08-2006, 06:48 PM	#28 (permalink)
Aladdin Sane Degenerate Location: San Marvelous	Johnny, does she orgasm from oral or other types of sex play before you fuck? I would just make sure she is satisfied before you put it in her. Someone mentioned it before, but lots of women never cum from penetration anyway-- especially 19 year old women. I was a premature ejaculator as a young man. The very second I got in there I would cum. It was embarrassing. It was really worrisome for me. The good thing was I could keep it up even if I had cum. I don't necesarily have any more control now, its just that I've grown used to the feeling. It takes me longer to get there now. But oh my gosh how incredible it felt when I was younger. Wow. Don't get me wrong, there's still nothing that compares, but I can take it now without immediately cumming. Talk to her about it. Ask for her help. Tell her to stop moving when you feel the pressure build. Lay still in each others arms until it subsides, then go at it again. Repeat. It is easy to tell you not to think about it ( I never could forget it). But lots of it is mental. Good luck! __________________ Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.

01-08-2006, 07:18 PM	#29 (permalink)
kramus loving the curves Location: my Lady's manor	I am one with the stop/start thing. You can gently rock away, and keep sliding out to rock the base of your courting tackle against her tingly bits when you feel a little extra tingly yourself. A smooth transition is the key. Coupled with a lot of you lifting and stroking her body with your hands, and you working your mouth and throat up and down the territory between her ear, down her throat, and past the breasts right to the belly button (an occassional dip for a taste is never amis), will make the whole thing a whole body experience. Breathing, moving together, and a bit of sweet talk . . . Rock on, Johnny __________________ And now to disengage the clutch of the forebrain ... I'm going with this - if you like artwork visit http://markfineart.ca

01-10-2006, 02:02 PM	#31 (permalink)
gh0ti Crazy	I had this problem most of my sexual life. I read a few threads about the subject here on TFP a couple of months back.. The Kegal exercises didn’t really work for me. I found that concentrating on breathing and focusing on the feelings involved worked best. Breathe deeply, and when you feel like your anywhere close, slow way down and work on something else (kissing, massaging, etc). Then you can get back to trusting. Another tip that works is to use your hips to thrust and make sure you relax your ass muscles. For what ever reason when you tighten up back there, it seems to speed up the process a bit. It takes a little practice, but it beats the hell out of thinking about calculus… __________________ I ain't often right but I've never been wrong It seldom turns out the way it does in the song Once in a while you get shown the light In the strangest of places if you look at it right

01-10-2006, 02:24 PM	#32 (permalink)
World's King Here Location: Denver City Denver	Can I have her number when you two break up? __________________ heavy is the head that wears the crown

01-10-2006, 02:27 PM	#33 (permalink)
Glory's Sun Registered User	dead puppies dead puppies dead puppies...

01-10-2006, 06:45 PM	#35 (permalink)
Tachion Crazy	Well this is an approach which is more about educating her about you and you about her. Try the game - you CANNOT make the person cum. You can get them close but you cannot let them go over the edge. This not only will bring the moment of cumming (it will happen -nobody is perfect!) to a new height but each will become very aware of what the other person is feeling. It makes you focus intently on it as you are trying so hard to get it so close then stop.