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Old 01-08-2006, 07:33 AM   #41 (permalink)
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I'm with Poppinjay on this one, relax a little. If you don't think she's enjoying herself as much, you could always ask her how she likes to be touched. While cuddeling just genlty wisper into her ear something like how can I make this better for you? If she doesn't tell you or just wants you to find out on your own. Watch for her bodies reactions, there's more tells then her just closeing her eyes and smileing in bliss. Finally if she's not stopping you then you know for sure that it's not bothering her so your good there.
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Old 01-08-2006, 07:43 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Soma - there is a chance your friend likes more than a gentle cupping or a soft touch. There are women who find being scratched along the ribs and back with fingernails a sensual delight. Another possibility is the 5 oclock shadow rub at the base of her neck - particularly from behind. You don't have to burrow like a badger trying to root through a bramble bush, but a smooth stroke with an unshaven chin/cheek can work wonders on the right woman. Her arms, her thighs, the mons and the ribs . . . check it out.
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Old 01-08-2006, 08:08 AM   #43 (permalink)
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for instance, while massaging one of her breasts, she would talk to other people in the room as if nothing was happening. (Please don't tell me that's a bad sign.
Er, you might like to try touching her when no one is around rather than there been an audience. It might be that she feels uncomfortable being touched because there are other people in the room, as opposed to she doesn't like being touched. This might be why she talks to them, because she feels self conscious.

Other than that she seems well into you so stop thinking so much and just enjoy yourself.
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Old 01-08-2006, 09:51 AM   #44 (permalink)
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If you're fondling her breasts while there's other people in the room, you have to expect that she's not going to give a reaction. I know of very few girls who are going to make it apparent to others in a room that this sort of hanky panky is going on - for one, it would be embarrasing for her, plus it would be more than a bit uncomfortable the other people sitting there.

According to what you said, she put your hand on her breast. There is no more sure indication that she wants it to be there. The rest of it is your own insecurities. She's with you, she's kissed you and she does touch you as well as very blatantly encouraging you to touch her. She wants you dude.
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Old 01-08-2006, 11:50 AM   #45 (permalink)
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I don't think you need anymore signage prompting you to make a move. Doooooooo it.
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Old 01-08-2006, 07:08 PM   #46 (permalink)
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I'm with Kramus suggestion on this one. Also, like the previous people said, you can't expect too much reaction when you have an audience. However, I think that she's giving you the signal here that you're free to touch her a lot more. You also might want to try to stop thinking about it so much. Especially when you're alone together.
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Old 01-10-2006, 02:48 PM   #47 (permalink)
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I second every opinion so far. That cannot be said enough, these people are your sexual gods. That said, the whole kiss on the first date thing can be over rated. As example we have my last girlfriend, we are both on the chubby side (OK i am fat and shes chubby cute). As such we were both used to ridicule and faux moves, all the foul stuff that a non-Adonis and a non-Venus in high school come to expect. She knew I liked her, I knew she liked me, that should make it simple right? NO. I did not kiss her for 3 dates and I'm glad i didn't cause while we both were burning for it the extra time helped our esteems and worked wonders on our sub-conscious. There was a playfulness that let us get close without the worry, I had to use both styles of thinking to come up with this, I schemed with my head and ran with my emotions. And it worked beautifully and the timing let her know everything she needed, and while she worried why I hadn't kissed her yet for 3 dates, when I did look out. In other words your in and don't worry about the past, report back when she starts having problems, till then enjoy.
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Old 01-10-2006, 04:24 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Next time, try touching her boobie in private.
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Old 01-10-2006, 05:18 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Next time, try touching her boobie in private.

hehe the bluntness is awesome here, C.
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Old 01-11-2006, 05:44 PM   #50 (permalink)
 
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Ohhhhhh my god, what a great thread. I've been gone from TFP for way too long.

If I had been here earlier, I would have chimed in to say "DUDE, FUCKING KISS HER ALREADY," it was obvious that she liked you from the OP.

However, it seems you have finally acted on your impulses (can they be called impulses if it took weeks?) and I am SOOOO glad for you. Just keep playing it by ear (neck, boob?) and DO NOT OVERTHINK THIS. Enjoy it. Enjoy touching. Just listen to Carn and touch in private next time. It is a great ride!!!
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Old 01-12-2006, 06:11 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Secret to making her swoon: try using your tongue instead of your hand on that breast of hers, if she responds (and believe me she will.) Find other places. Remember that she is probably just as self-conscious as you are.
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Old 01-13-2006, 05:51 AM   #52 (permalink)
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Ok. Tongue instead of hand on breast. That sounds good, but wouldn't it be weird if I'm licking her clothing? ... Also. Ok. so we've kissed several times, but they have all been pecks. Nothing more than split seconds. How to a keep a kiss going without frenching, but suggesting a french kiss?? I'd also be interested in hearing kissing tips in general.

And as always, thanks soooo much.
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Old 01-13-2006, 08:06 AM   #53 (permalink)
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Next time you're alone just start kissing her more passionately, it's really not that complicated. I can't give you instructions, but it should come fairly naturally. Make sure your hands are involved, have your fingers in her hair on the back of her head or something. When licking: clothes come OFF first. Threads in mouth are not tasty.

You're over-thinking everything here. Show some initiative.
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Old 01-13-2006, 10:30 AM   #54 (permalink)
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start gently sucking on her bottom lip, this usually entices more kissing and might even get you a little bit of tongue.
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Old 01-13-2006, 10:48 AM   #55 (permalink)
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You can't be thinking about this so much. One of the best parts of a passonate kiss is that you arnt thinking, you will never get there or ever enjoy it if you are thinking. Rule 1) Stop thinking. But if it helps you to stop thinking eventually, here is what usually marks a passonate kiss for me. (I'll try and keep in the realms of simple making out that doesn't go too far).

Open mouths
Hands in hair/ back of neck/ hips
You are generaly pressed up close (as much body contacting at one time as possible)
Changing positions. Variety is good. Try standing, against a wall, on bed, her on top, you on top, sitting, side by side laying. Just keep moving where your body takes you.
Sucking on upper/ lower lips
Some tongue fun
Kissing other areas (i.e. neck, ear lobe, peck on the nose, cheek, across collar bone)
If you are by the ear it's sexy to hear some heavy breathing (at least I like to hear her)
And its always has good to aknowlage the good time you are having in a flirty way. Her response can tell you how far you are allowed to go
And you have to be willing to let your hands roam a bit, women usualy wont initate things, they are expecting you to go there first, even if you are rejected it doesnt mean she wants to stop everything you just need to back off for the time being and try again another time, always be respectful of where she wants you hands or tongue or lips at any given time.
Always remember not to harp on the same move for too long, you want to explore a variety of things, and places, it keeps it interesting and it can keep you up for hours.

When you get that far come back and we will help you get that bra off.
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Old 01-15-2006, 10:01 PM   #56 (permalink)
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We broke the make-out barrier today. I fumbled (big time) in the beginning, but managed to make a fair improvement towards the end of the night. I still have a long ways to go though.

Anyway, probably the biggest issue that came up was that I am a big slobber face. Because my mouth is bigger, I would sometimes sort of have her lips in my mouth. Then her lips would get all wet, then we would take a break so she could wipe all of my slobber off of her face. Not cool.

How do I prevent this? Should I try to just swallow all of the saliva in my mouth and then go at it... I don't know. I just kept on getting her face wet.
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Old 01-16-2006, 10:22 AM   #57 (permalink)
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Close your mouth, don't gape as much. You may have a bigger mouth but...come on now...it's pretty flexible =P

I did this when I first started out too so don't sweat it too much, just try to not swallow her face and tryt o keep your lips within hers a bit more.

By the way, I'm pretty sure this girl knows you're inexperienced and part of the reason she likes you is because she is so many 'firsts' for you, so don't worry about goofing things up, you'll probably only be endearing her more.
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Old 01-16-2006, 05:22 PM   #58 (permalink)
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Choose a lip, top or bottom. In my experience a girl is going to want to go for the bottom lip, because its fuller and nicer to kiss. So let her decide where she wants to go. It's one or the other. Not both. Feeling like someone is about to eat your face is not cool.
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