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cellophanedeity 04-17-2005 09:02 PM

Cunt.
 
Is the word "cunt" allowed on the forums? I know a lot of people don't like it, but I find it way less demeaning than words like "pussy" and "cootchie" and a lot less clinical than "vulva." Cunt is my favorite term for my lady bits, and I like the idea of reclaimed language, but I've yet to use it here at Tilted. I'd hate to offend.

So here's my question:

What do you think of the word cunt? Is it an acceptable term?
Do you mind if I use it when posting, as long as there's no intentional offence?

ARTelevision 04-17-2005 09:04 PM

Not offensive to me. I agree with you. Some may find it offensive. It's certainly not off-limits here.

Willravel 04-17-2005 09:50 PM

Agreed. I don't find it offensive at all. It'd be obvious if there was intended offence in the usage of the word. As long as you keep it as simply a word to describe body part (not fellow TFPers, haha), I see no problem with it.

Johnny Rotten 04-17-2005 10:44 PM

I've always understood "cunt" to be one of the most vulgar terms associated with that part of the body, like "snatch" or "twat." It's also commonly used as a pejorative. It won't offend me, but it will distract me and most other people from what you're trying to communicate.

SVT01Cobra 04-18-2005 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Rotten
I've always understood "cunt" to be one of the most vulgar terms associated with that part of the body, like "snatch" or "twat." It's also commonly used as a pejorative. It won't offend me, but it will distract me and most other people from what you're trying to communicate.

Agreed. I've heard it is the single rudest thing you can call a woman.

WillyPete 04-18-2005 12:56 AM

I'd be careful of using it, if only to sanitize the forum for those that access from work. Such words can flag a lot of users for incorrect use of internet access.
But that said, what the hell did you expect in the Sexuality forum anyway? ;) :P

On some other forums I visit, we've tended towards the FCUK version of words. (For those that don't know, FCUK is French Connection UK, a clothes reatailer that plays mostly on it's name for advertising. It's about all the appeal they have, the clothes are shit and overpriced.)
cnut is the typical form we've started to use. Similar to the use of the word 'pron' to bypass filters.

Ella 04-18-2005 01:58 AM

Most Aussies have no issue at all with the word cunt!

ShaniFaye 04-18-2005 03:01 AM

To me its the WORST word anyone has ever come up with....I cant stand to see it used to describe a body part, or as a word to describe a female. Its degrading in both ways, IMO. I literally cringe anytime I see/hear it.

bullgoose 04-18-2005 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cellophanedeity
Is the word "cunt" allowed on the forums? I know a lot of people don't like it, but I find it way less demeaning than words like "pussy" and "cootchie" and a lot less clinical than "vulva." Cunt is my favorite term for my lady bits, and I like the idea of reclaimed language, but I've yet to use it here at Tilted. I'd hate to offend.

So here's my question:

What do you think of the word cunt? Is it an acceptable term?
Do you mind if I use it when posting, as long as there's no intentional offence?

Personally, I love it. Especially when a woman uses it; then I know she's honest; she knows shes got a cunt, and probably knows how it works and how to get the most out of (and into) it. eautiful thing, a cunt.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

vanblah 04-18-2005 06:08 AM

My thoughts ... how can ANYONE be offended by a word?

The connotations behind the word are an entirely different matter.

I feel that most people are just reacting to the fact that society has told them that a word is offensive.

But hey, this is the Sexuality forum not the Philosophy forum.

the_marq 04-18-2005 06:26 AM

I very rarely find any word offensive. Rather the reaction I have to words like 'cunt' or even 'fuck' for that matter, is that I find myself looking down on people who over use them. Now don't get me wrong, I love a good "FUCK YOU!' from time to time, as an accent in conversation. Further to that point nothing is more arousing than a proper use of 'cunt' when used between two adults in a sweaty situation.

However, it's those little fuckers on the train and other public spaces that seem to not yet understand that some words should be used sparingly, or not at all, when in a crowd.

So go ahead, use 'em. Just don't make a whole post out of 'em.

ShaniFaye 04-18-2005 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by vanblah
My thoughts ... how can ANYONE be offended by a word?

The connotations behind the word are an entirely different matter.

I feel that most people are just reacting to the fact that society has told them that a word is offensive.

But hey, this is the Sexuality forum not the Philosophy forum.

I will tell you how I can be offended.....I very rarely see this word that its not being used as an insult. I know when I was in highschool it was a word used to do nothing more than start a fight.

mazagmot 04-18-2005 06:59 AM

Nearly the only time I see people use cunt as a vulgarity/insult is from one woman aimed at another woman. It seems to me that guys don't attach the same weight to the word that women do, which has always puzzled me.

cellophanedeity 04-18-2005 07:57 AM

I've decided that I won't be using "cunt" in the forums, for two reasons.

1. Johnny_Rotten and WillyPete make a good points in their posts. I'd hate to cause more work for the Mods than they already have.

2. I told myself that if anyone who responded was offended, then I'd stop using it while posting here. I really enjoy all of your distant company, and I'd hate to be a thorn in anyone's side.

Thanks for the speedy response! Sorry that so many of you have such a bad taste for the word.

vanblah 04-18-2005 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShaniFaye
I will tell you how I can be offended.....I very rarely see this word that its not being used as an insult. I know when I was in highschool it was a word used to do nothing more than start a fight.

I agree with you 100%. If the word is being used as an insult then you should be offended; but only by the insult. Not the word itself.

It's not the word's fault that it's attached to an asshole.

There are other words that are perceived in this light and there are people who want these words removed from the dictionary.

I do not like revisionist tactics like that. So I'm of the opinion that we need to start carefully examining our reactions to things like language and art and being VERY specific about what we find offensive.

No word by itself is offensive; not even the meaning of a word should be considered offensive. Only how that word is used in a specific example should be considered offensive.

Suave 04-18-2005 08:00 AM

I find it strange that you think "cunt" is less harsh than "pussy", but to each his/her own I suppose.

cellophanedeity 04-18-2005 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suave
I find it strange that you think "cunt" is less harsh than "pussy", but to each his/her own I suppose.

I don't think it's less harsh, but I like the hardness of cunt. I suppose I should clarify that I like the idea of reclaimed language. I call my genital area my cunt, I call myself a queer and I have girlfriends that call themselves bitch. To me, it's the same type of word.

I just think that pussy is degrading. I like kittens and all, but having my bits called after them doesn't seem to fit. And, unlike most of you I suppose, I hear "pussy" being used as an insult way more than cunt. *shrugs*

bullgoose 04-18-2005 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cellophanedeity
I don't think it's less harsh, but I like the hardness of cunt. I suppose I should clarify that I like the idea of reclaimed language. I call my genital area my cunt, I call myself a queer and I have girlfriends that call themselves bitch. To me, it's the same type of word.

I just think that pussy is degrading. I like kittens and all, but having my bits called after them doesn't seem to fit. And, unlike most of you I suppose, I hear "pussy" being used as an insult way more than cunt. *shrugs*

It's all just individual perception and preference; a word is a word, it's perception that makes it offensive.

hossified 04-18-2005 08:27 AM

i don't get why that word is soo bad...I mean for description, how is it any different than dick or cock or pussy?...and for a derogatory or demeaning word, it's no worse than mother f'er etc.....

as far as I'm concerned, it's just another word....

boredom 04-18-2005 08:39 AM

Maybe offeneded if your calling someone a cunt, but life your just describing pussy then its just another word.

Carno 04-18-2005 08:50 AM

I say 'cunt' all the time.

For some reason I don't like to use it when talking about a pussy.. I only use it as an insult, and boy does it work well :)

alec 04-18-2005 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WillyPete
On some other forums I visit, we've tended towards the FCUK version of words. (For those that don't know, FCUK is French Connection UK, a clothes reatailer that plays mostly on it's name for advertising. It's about all the appeal they have, the clothes are shit and overpriced.)
cnut is the typical form we've started to use. Similar to the use of the word 'pron' to bypass filters.

dude, FCUK is sweet, their t-shirts are a bit trite but the clothes themselves? damn good

WillyPete 04-18-2005 09:26 AM

They're made for fashionistas that fit in stove pipe jeans.

Not with my calves. I'll stick with the khakis. I can fit in khakis.

xxSquirtxx 04-18-2005 04:14 PM

I certainly do not enjoy being called a cunt. lol

doncalypso 04-18-2005 04:16 PM

Well... the term "vagina" sounds a bit too mechanical/scientific for most, so I guess "cunt" is alright. I must admit that I prefer "pussy" though.

Acetylene 04-18-2005 07:22 PM

I think people don't like it because short words with hard consonants tend to sound angry when people say them.

cowgirl02 04-18-2005 07:30 PM

im not offended by it I have only heard it being used when stupid girls at my school are arguing or fighting, other than that i dont really hear it and I dont say it because I believe that it does offend a lot of people.

slimshaydee 04-18-2005 07:33 PM

if you don't like the word never visit this thread
http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthr...ewpost&t=85490

Offkilter 04-19-2005 05:44 AM

Personally I think we need to invent a heap of new swear words we can be offended by. People these days take most swear words in their stride since they're all over the movies and video games. The 'C' word will one day take it's place in everyday language and just be another 'Damn' or even 'Bitch'.. What am I going to call the guy that cuts me off in his car then?

MSD 04-19-2005 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suave
I find it strange that you think "cunt" is less harsh than "pussy", but to each his/her own I suppose.

Quote:

"I'm a really big fan of cunt over words like pussy, and especially, vagina. The word has this great guttural sound that lets you get right into it. Pussy and vagina are really dirty words - you only ever hear really greasy men saying things like that. Cunt lets women be vulgar without being derogatory."
-Callista Flockhart in [i]The Vagina Monologues[/i[

Carno 04-19-2005 07:01 AM

???

I don't see how she thinks cunt is not derogatory..

Frosstbyte 04-19-2005 08:15 AM

"I'm a really big fan of cunt over words like pussy, and especially, vagina. The word has this great guttural sound that lets you get right into it. Pussy and vagina are really dirty words - you only ever hear really greasy men saying things like that. Cunt lets women be vulgar without being derogatory."

That is the single most inane quotation I've ever read. Every guy I've ever met (in my peer group, I mean) uses the word "pussy" all the time, and, while I know some hugely sketchy guys, I like to think that they don't compose the entire spread of people I know. And I never hear anyone but doctors or people who are deliberately clinical use the word vagina. It's almost never used in porn or erotica that I can come up with. Maybe I'm just out of the loop on who is using vagina and for what purpose.

Oh, and to weigh in on the conversation, I've gone back and forth about cunt. I had a really good friend who suddenly started calling everything he saw a cunt. Literally couldn't get a sentance out of his mouth without using the word. That, in addition to the fact that I've only ever heard it used as a very derogatory word put it low on my list. I suppose if a girl wants to talk about herself that way or use it in erotica, that's fine with me, but I'm not a big fan of just hearing it.

MH73 04-19-2005 08:17 AM

This is one of those words that even makes the most liberal of people cringe...

It's just inappropriate regardless of context...

Kinda doesn't have any upside at all... Every possible connotation is negative...

MageB420666 04-19-2005 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MH73
This is one of those words that even makes the most liberal of people cringe...

It's just inappropriate regardless of context...

Kinda doesn't have any upside at all... Every possible connotation is negative...

"My girlfriend has a cunt."

How in the hell is that a negative statement? I consider it to be rather positive myself. And it's a whole lot easier to say than "My girlfriend has a vulva, vagina, labia, and clitoris."

I object to referring to any person as being just a single body part, a woman has a cunt, but she is not a cunt.

I find it offensive when women are reffered to as a hot piece of ass, a nice rack, a pair of legs, or anything else, it is the idea behind the statement, not the words used that are offensive.

nulltype 04-19-2005 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShaniFaye
To me its the WORST word anyone has ever come up with....I cant stand to see it used to describe a body part, or as a word to describe a female. Its degrading in both ways, IMO. I literally cringe anytime I see/hear it.

Haha, you're as degraded as you make yourself. I would like to know why you can't stand it so much, if you could tranliterate this word into a sentence or paragraph would you still be so offended? For instance, if instead of 'cunt' I used 'worthless human being with no redeeming values whatsoever, an intolerable personality, and a general uncleanliness of body' would you still be offended?

+C

nulltype 04-19-2005 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Offkilter
Personally I think we need to invent a heap of new swear words we can be offended by. People these days take most swear words in their stride since they're all over the movies and video games. The 'C' word will one day take it's place in everyday language and just be another 'Damn' or even 'Bitch'.. What am I going to call the guy that cuts me off in his car then?

Exactly, as a stop-gap measure, I vote we just use German swear words. You're such a (gets dictionary) schwanz.

Coppertop 04-19-2005 03:46 PM

Words only have as much power as people give them. If someone's going to be offended, it doesn't really matter what word is used - they'll find a reason. What's important is the intent behind the message, not the medium used to convey the message. I mean, who's offended by fingers? No one I know, but people get pissed when given the bird. Why? It's the insult itself that offends, see?

boom29 04-19-2005 05:05 PM

I don't use the word, but whenever I hear it all I can think of is, "DAMN!! I can't believe he/she just said that." I'm not offended by it, but I have heard that it is the worst possible thing to call a woman. I guess its the equivalent of the N-word to an African American.

ShaniFaye 04-19-2005 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nulltype
I would like to know why you can't stand it so much

Im pretty sure I answered that in post number 12

Gatorade Frost 04-19-2005 05:44 PM

My two cents:

I'd never call a girl a cunt because I can see why they would find it offensive. That's not even a word I save for the people that piss me off the most, I just don't use it.

Now my guy friends, I've been known to call them cunts, pussies, etc. just because for some reason it cracks me up. Mind you it's not something I'd call anyone but a guy friend who knows I'm not serious.

I hate the word pussy for some reason and personally would choose cunt over it when talking dirty with the girlfriend, but I'm not really one for having conversation like that with the girlfriend, so it's not normally a problem.

I just go with a nice neutral "special area" :suave:


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