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Old 03-24-2005, 02:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Acetylene just started the Nuva rings and we took it for a spin last night with mixed results. The ring lies roughly parallel to the spine in her vagina behind the gspot, and slightly above(closer to her belly) it. Right now it rubs on my penis like a mofo and all the good angles in missionary that work for her (lots of gspot stimulation) end up with the tip of my penis rubbing across the ring and getting sore. My penis sort of feels the same way it does when I get soap in the end of my urethra, except not as bad. I am pretty skeptical of the manufacterers claim that %80 of men can't feel the ring and that the remaining %20 don't mind. Clearly %100 of men are two pump chumps who are missing the gspot ;-)


Anyone else have this problem? Solutions?
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Old 03-24-2005, 03:06 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Have you considered a very small helmet, such as a G.I. Joe doll helmet for your little buddy? Or perhaps a small leather shield? Other than that, I think you're going to have to 1. grow callouses, 2. hit a different spot, 3. change bc methods 4. transplate skin from beneath your fingernails to your bishop, and grow a penis-nail.

oh, never had the problem.
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Old 03-24-2005, 04:39 PM   #3 (permalink)
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My sig other has been on the Ring since we began going out. She's the only one with whom I've had sex, so judge my comments accordingly I guess. I have almost never noticed or felt the ring while having sex, much less the friction and discomfort you are describing. Naturally, often when I have a finger or two inside her when we mess around and/or when i'm eating her out, I can definitely feel it. But it has never bothered me either way.

Have you or Acetylene tried positioning the ring differently? I know that it kind of 'finds' its own spot to sit tight for three weeks, but maybe Acetylene could place it higher in her vagina? I don't know what would really work best, but experimenting with its location might help. Also, is missionary the only position in which you notice the Ring? Or do you also feel it in doggystyle and other positions?
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Old 03-24-2005, 04:55 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Have you considered a very small helmet, such as a G.I. Joe doll helmet for your little buddy? Or perhaps a small leather shield? Other than that, I think you're going to have to 1. grow callouses, 2. hit a different spot, 3. change bc methods 4. transplate skin from beneath your fingernails to your bishop, and grow a penis-nail.

oh, never had the problem.
A penis-nail! I think I just bit my tongue off reading that!
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Old 03-24-2005, 04:57 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Um I beg to differ. My man and I have sex for very long periods of time and he has never once complained that he can feel the ring inside of me.

Maybe if this is an issue with you, she needs to change BC. It's really that simple.
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Old 03-24-2005, 07:54 PM   #6 (permalink)
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The ring may be taken out for up to three hours at a time. Just rinse it off and reinsert it.

I've had the same problem, but only after hours of vigorous lovemaking.

The ring can be awesome, but it can also suck, so yeah, just take it out, screw, and put it back.
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Old 03-25-2005, 08:43 PM   #7 (permalink)
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i can feel it, but it doesn't bother me that much. It's just a little weird, that's all
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Old 03-25-2005, 09:20 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I second the taking it out, JUST DON'T FORGET TO PUT IT BACK IN!!!

Martel and I would do this when I was on the ring, and I never got preggers. I hated having sex with it inside me, I'd just pull it out right before we actually had some penis-vagina action, and put it on the nightstand, then grab it afterwards when I went to pee. Mine never really found a "happy spot" inside me so we could have sex with it in- it sometimes would wiggle halfway out on its own during the day, and I'd have to readjust.
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Old 03-25-2005, 09:27 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Well, on my end, I remember having it occasionally pop out and end up around my penis like a state fair "throw the ring around the pole" game, but even though I could sometimes feel it it never irritated me... I think when Sage and I would have sex with it in (towards the beginning of when she had it, before we discovered the thing about taking it out and putting it back in) it probably would sit higher up in her than you are describing with Acetylene.
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Old 03-26-2005, 02:08 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I'm on the ring and have had sex with it...and my guy says he can't feel a damn thing. He says he wouldn't have known it was there if I hadn't asked him. So she may want to rethink the positioning of the ring and/or take it out during sex--each ring comes in a handy resealable pouch for a reason!
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Old 03-27-2005, 09:10 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Heh, well after some thought and a few more swings I've decided I can live with it. I think my penis is toughening up (yay for penis of pugilism +1) and I will eventually not be very bothered by it. It burned less the last time and hopefully it will get better.
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Old 03-27-2005, 06:26 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Dude... "I guess it's not going to bother my penis toooooo much" is still TOO MUCH. See if she can't poke it around somewhere where you won't feel it! Jeez!

Or just take the damn thing out. Just don't forget to put it back in.
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Old 03-29-2005, 10:25 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Interesting. I had no heard of the ring before. How deep does it go?
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Old 03-29-2005, 10:53 PM   #14 (permalink)
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my roomate 's wife uses the ring...shes pregnant...sucks for them, personally i prefer a condom and grapefruit seed extract spermicide... nothing rubing me sir
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Old 03-30-2005, 06:50 AM   #15 (permalink)
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TheFu, it's a 2-inch plastic ring that sits just outside the cervix. I can't feel it at all but Kel can. Last night we were making up jokes--Penis walks into a bar...who put this goddamn ring in the way??
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Old 03-31-2005, 05:51 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I actually can't feel it alot of the time now. I think it's trekking around in there.
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Old 03-31-2005, 09:45 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Have you considered a very small helmet, such as a G.I. Joe doll helmet for your little buddy? Or perhaps a small leather shield? Other than that, I think you're going to have to 1. grow callouses, 2. hit a different spot, 3. change bc methods 4. transplate skin from beneath your fingernails to your bishop, and grow a penis-nail.

oh, never had the problem.
Ten minutes later, and I am still laughing at this one!

Comedy Gold!!!
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Old 03-31-2005, 10:24 PM   #18 (permalink)
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lol...

oh and i have an appointment on the 6th with my gyno to get the ring...i really hope biznatch cant feel it..or more importantly..that i cant feel it...
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Old 03-31-2005, 10:49 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Ten minutes later, and I am still laughing at this one!

Comedy Gold!!!
a man does what he can to bring levity to a serious situation you know, i kind of forgot the obvious solution...if you can't get in the front door to the club without having problems with the bouncers, try the backdoor in the alley...

/ps - can you imagine trimming a penis nail? my very spine quivers at the thought of an errant snip. and people think their dog/cat gets mad when they hit the flesh inside the nail....
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Old 04-01-2005, 07:43 AM   #20 (permalink)
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lol...

oh and i have an appointment on the 6th with my gyno to get the ring...i really hope biznatch cant feel it..or more importantly..that i cant feel it...
Since I went on the ring my lover and I have been forgoing condoms...and he still says he can't feel it at all no matter what position we're in.
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Old 04-01-2005, 08:21 AM   #21 (permalink)
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lol...

oh and i have an appointment on the 6th with my gyno to get the ring...i really hope biznatch cant feel it..or more importantly..that i cant feel it...
kiwi - I assume by it you're referring to the ring, yes?
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Old 04-01-2005, 08:41 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Um I beg to differ. My man and I have sex for very long periods of time and he has never once complained that he can feel the ring inside of me.

Maybe if this is an issue with you, she needs to change BC. It's really that simple.

My wife uses the NuvaRing as well. I don't ever notice it except for with my fingers occassionally. It bothers her more than it does me, as she worries that it will "get in the way". If we are having a long night of sex, she feels comfortable taking it out. Nikki is right, no problem taking it out for a few hours, rinsing it off and re-inserting after sex. Hope this helps!
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Old 04-01-2005, 09:17 AM   #23 (permalink)
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The ring may be taken out for up to three hours at a time. Just rinse it off and reinsert it.
If the ring gets left out for more than 3 hours, you have to leave it in for 7 days afterward even if this messes with your routine. You might also want to get emergency contraception.
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Old 04-01-2005, 10:52 AM   #24 (permalink)
 
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I'm curious about this taking-it-out business. Does that mean you can take it out whenever you have sex? I imagine if you take it out once a day for an hour or so at a time, or even twice a day, won't this affect the hormone level?

Just curious...
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Old 04-01-2005, 01:05 PM   #25 (permalink)
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I'm curious about this taking-it-out business. Does that mean you can take it out whenever you have sex? I imagine if you take it out once a day for an hour or so at a time, or even twice a day, won't this affect the hormone level?

Just curious...


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What to do if NuvaRing® slips out
This rarely happens. NuvaRing® can slip out while you're removing a tampon, straining with severe constipation, or during intercourse.

Out for less than three hours: If it does slip out, and if it has been out less than three hours, you should still be protected from pregnancy. Rinse the contraceptive ring with cool-to-lukewarm (not hot) water and re-insert it as soon as possible, at the latest within three hours. If you've lost NuvaRing®, you must insert a new contraceptive ring and stay on the same schedule you would have followed if you were still using the lost ring.
Out for more than three hours: If NuvaRing® has been out of your vagina for more than three hours, you may not be adequately protected against pregnancy. The contraceptive ring should be rinsed in cool-to-lukewarm (not hot) water and re-inserted as soon as possible. You must use an extra method of birth control, such as male condoms or spermicide, until the re-inserted contraceptive ring has been in place for seven consecutive days. If you know or suspect you are pregnant, do not use NuvaRing®. See your healthcare provider as soon as possible.
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Old 04-04-2005, 06:53 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Nowhere in there do I see them recommending you take it more then once in a given time period. I wouldn't read that out of there without asking a doctor.
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Old 04-04-2005, 08:13 PM   #27 (permalink)
 
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Okay, so with the take-out stuff, it's really only okay for it to happen once a week? That's what I read. I guess once a week you can have sex with it out, but the rest of the time you just have to deal with it (not that it's bad, but if you are uncomfortable with it for some reason it could be annoying). Good to know, thanks.
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Old 04-04-2005, 08:52 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Okay, so with the take-out stuff, it's really only okay for it to happen once a week? That's what I read. I guess once a week you can have sex with it out, but the rest of the time you just have to deal with it (not that it's bad, but if you are uncomfortable with it for some reason it could be annoying). Good to know, thanks.
Where did you read that? That wasn't in any of the literature I read or the information I received from my RNP. From what I understood you can take it out for up to three hours pretty regularly. You only have to leave it in for seven days straight if it's out for more than three hours, as it says above (that passage is taken directly from the prescription info packet).

How long does it usually take you to have sex? Probably less than three hours from start to finish. So taking it out every couple of days is no biggie. Besides which, your guy shouldn't be able to feel it or notice it if it's placed correctly.
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Old 04-05-2005, 03:27 PM   #29 (permalink)
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They don't say you can take it out. They say if it falls out. They don't suggest that you can take it out as a regular (daily) practice.
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Old 04-05-2005, 03:37 PM   #30 (permalink)
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I would think that the pertinent questions would be:

1. How often do you take it out, and for how often? If daily, but for short durations, you're probably ok. The Ring doesn't know if it fell out or if it was removed - as long as the concentration of x inside the vagina remains high enough to man the frontlines in the war on sperm, everything is probably fine. If you were to take it out for an hour, then replace it for an hour, then take it out for an hour etc - I would think you might run into difficulties.

2. What type of storage is the Ring receiving while outside the vagina, and how does this storage affect the transport properties of what I would imagine would be a porous membrane through which the active chemical is delivered. For instance, might not be the best idea to let it dry out etc. I would think a moist ziplock bag would be a good choice.

Other than that, I suppose the proof is in the proverbial pudding...if it works while taking it out for sex, then I...ummmm...guess it works.
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Old 04-05-2005, 05:48 PM   #31 (permalink)
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The medication isn't a spermicide, it's a hormone like the pill. Anytime it is removed, the dosage for that day is reduced somewhat. Eventually it reaches the point where it is ineffective. That point occurs at 3 hours.

Now the reason why I'm not willing to just take it out is this. With the pill, if you don't take it for 2 days, it stops working. If you don't take it for one day, the efficacy is reduced to 95%, barely better than barriers, FOR THE WHOLE CYCLE. So the studies have shown. It seems to me that if removing the ring for 3 hours makes it fail, then that is equivalent to not taking the pill for two days. Therefore removing the ring for an hour and a half (average time for my and Kel) will count like missing the pill for one day. That will drop the efficacy to 95% for the whole cycle, not good!

Also, I have no idea if the effect is cumulative or not, but it's possible that if I remove the ring once per day, then I am effectively reducing the entire month's dose significantly and possibly to the point of failure. Yes, I know many women do this and have no problems, but anecdotal evidence is not enough for me. In Ancient Rome, women used to think sneezing worked as a morning-after pill, and there was plenty of anecdotal evidence for it.

Anyway, it's a moot point because the ring is having the same effect as depo-provera (the shot) in that I've been having my period for a good 3 weeks now. I'm starting a new thread about methods for remembering the pill because it's the only option I've tried that doesn't make me bleed
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Old 04-05-2005, 06:01 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Sorry to hear the ring didn't work out for ya Ace, but big props on being willing to shop around as far as BC goes and not just sticking with one thing if you aren't happy with it!
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Old 04-06-2005, 09:16 PM   #33 (permalink)
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personally..>I LOVE THE NUVA RING

i can sometimes feel it in almost any position, but it never irritates or bothers me or the lady. It is just sort of an "oh, tha tfeels different' feeling, not exactly bad, but just different...
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Old 04-07-2005, 06:00 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Now the reason why I'm not willing to just take it out is this. With the pill, if you don't take it for 2 days, it stops working. If you don't take it for one day, the efficacy is reduced to 95%, barely better than barriers, FOR THE WHOLE CYCLE. So the studies have shown. It seems to me that if removing the ring for 3 hours makes it fail, then that is equivalent to not taking the pill for two days. Therefore removing the ring for an hour and a half (average time for my and Kel) will count like missing the pill for one day. That will drop the efficacy to 95% for the whole cycle, not good!
point taken, and i'd err on the safe side as you would seem to have done. however, a crucial assumption here is that transport through your gi tract is the same as through your vagina. your body eliminates things *very* effectively through your stomach -> excretion...whereas i don't know how well the hormone sticks around in the vagina, considering secretions occuring during sex...i wonder what affect drinking the hormone has on males, and at what concentrations, etc?

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In Ancient Rome, women used to think sneezing worked as a morning-after pill, and there was plenty of anecdotal evidence for it.
hey, that shit works if you sneeze hard enough. seriously.

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Anyway, it's a moot point because the ring is having the same effect as depo-provera (the shot) in that I've been having my period for a good 3 weeks now. I'm starting a new thread about methods for remembering the pill because it's the only option I've tried that doesn't make me bleed
yep. good luck with finding what you need.
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