1. Mindgames. This has already been covered many times.
2. Gossip. It's been covered.
3. Fickle. Covered
4. Double standards. This is the big one for me. If she's upset I have to comfort her. If I'M upset, she not only doesn't comfort me, but feels the need to bitch at me for wanting to relax instead of listening to her.
5. Over-analyzation. I'm sure this was covered.

good point, ^^^

one thing i think i should add that ive noticed is girls complain about something before considering the alternatives. which makes for lose lose situations,

ie: girl and guy are getting randy for the first time together, and the guy pulls out a new bottle of lube. The girl immediately start attacking said guy. basically she interpreted it as he was so confident in getting her into bed that he went out and got a bottle of lube. but what about the alternative?

what if he whipped out a half used bottle, would that be more attractive? just think about it.

Hmm looks like I was flamed but it was deleted.

Too bad I didn't get to see what was said.

I guess I read the post wrong but without emotes it's hard to tell what people mean online. There are people on this site and others who would say things like that in all seriousness.

Anyway, I figured it was okay to point something out here considering I got completely bashed in the "girls what bothers you the most about guys" thread.

1. Mind games - I think they teach manipulation and man belittlement in those teen girl lifestyle magazines;

2. Too much makeup - Women look more attractive when they're not covering anything up, so to speak;

3. The annoying way the nice girls choose assholes for boyfriends, let them smack them about or cheat on them or treat them like sh*t and then go back to them again and again while telling us nice guys "you're too nice for me..." etc.

Sorry if these have been listed before but i didn't have time to read aaaall the posts.

you know how hateful and horrible we are? there were four threads.. the other two were "what do you love most about guys/girls" yet only the *bothers you most* ones were brought back.. lol

the endless double standard they all seem to have. the way they want you to make over them and pour compliments over them night and day and dont make any effort to do the same in return. the way they all seem to have lost the ability to raise children, cook, and heaven forbid, clean a house.

The worst thing for me is how vague they are when they want to express themselves. Sorry ladies, we ain't mind readers, tell us what's bothering you. Women with inferiority complexes are a real turn-off. If you don't first love yourself, noone else can or will. If you need the approval of a man to feel validated, get some counseling...quick. Learn to appreciate a man's need to be alone sometimes. Don't ask us what's wrong all the time, if we need you, we'll tell you. Lastly, don't sweat the small stuff, life is way too short.

1) Mind games - Tricking, trapping, and otherwise underhandedly getting us to do your evil bidding is not a very nice thing to do.

2) Saying one thing and meaning another - Jesus, I get sick and tired of asking "now is that an ACTUAL yes or a GUILTY yes"

I'd add more but im too tired, its time for a nice nap

if you took the time to read holo's response on that thread, he was not attacking or bashing you, he was simply responding to your post (albeit aggressively). stop taking the posts here out of context and lighten up.

After reading the girl's version of this topic, I have two to add.

6. YOU AREN'T A SUPER SLEUTH. They seem to think that they have us all figured out, but don't seem to realize that they know what we want because we tell them what we want. I've never "dropped a hint" in my life. I can guarantee you that if we did that the girl would have know clue what we were talking about.

7. "If you're ugly and you approach me I'm going to be offended" isn't a dating tip.

I'm 100% behind pretty much what everyone said Re: mind games, gossip, drama, mind reading, and so on. I would like to add one.

Being friends. If I approach a lady in a bar or wherever, get mixed signals (or just read her her wrong, very possible) and it later develops that she just wants to be friends, I'd prefer she not be offended if I don't want to be friends. And then just kind of lose contact with her. I can understand- this usually happens when I'm aiming high on the "looks ladder." If she's a reasonably good looking girl, she probably thinks that 90% of guys approaching her since her breasts started to come in was just trying to get in her pants (she's wrong- 99.9% is probably closer).

I'm an OK looking guy (babies don't cry when I enter the room anyway), I have a Masters degree in engineering, and am starting out in the entrepreneur path. I can see why, to such a girl, having a nice, decent, ambitious, steadily-employed guy interested in her platonically could be enormously validating. However, I already have what I consider to be plenty of friends. Some of them are girls. While there's some upside in a friendship for her, there's none for me. All I can possibly gain is continued proximity to something I desire and can't have, while getting to hear all about how her current boyfriend doesn't pay enough attention, yells at her, and so on.

Also, I didn't misrepresent myself. When I stepped up to her, I was clear that I was looking for more than friendship (the whole deal, not just sex). Since she doesn't want that with me, then let's both stop wasting time, shake hands, and move on.

Not to say that this has happened to me often, but it's happened before, and I get the feeling it's about to happen again with my most recent ex-romantic interest.

Um...if you took the time to read the thread you'd know that I read and responded to everything Holo wrote. Holo was very curteous in all his responses, which is more that I can say for you and rudezilla (and certain other people in that thread who did get kind of pissed off at me).

I don't know why you guys are getting on my case so much. All I did is point out that most girls are insecure about their weight, whether they're 90 pounds or 390 pounds.

The quote you took from me was simply a response to rudezilla's:
"i didn't know that a thread with such a masculine topic would come with all the sensitivity ... i'll remove myself from this thread"

Perhaps bashing was the wrong word to use there but I thought I'd mention that femenine topics bring up sensitivity too.


I'm going to stop with this pointless, stupid bickering now and find some more threads to misinterpret :rolleyes:

One thing that really bothers me is their technological ineptitude. I'm getting pretty tired of teaching my girfriend how to use the VCR remote. Once or twice is ok, but every time she comes over it's, "Hey, the remote's broken!".

And just this week...

Her: My mouse stopped working. How do I shut down?
Me: Press the Windows button on your keyboard and...
Her: How do I do that?

OK, I'm married and haven't dated for a while, but... "mind games"? C'mon, the fact that (most) women have different communication styles from (most) men is old news. Buy a book or something... learn to adapt. It isn't that difficult.

One of my last girlfriend's thoughts: "If he doesn't send me copious amounts of cards, mail, IMs, emails, flowers, and compliments everyday, that means he doesn't like me."

Is this a result of years of conditioning from romance novels/movies, or is it rooted in self-esteem issues? Someone please tell me.

I wanted to throw up when she would talk about real-life romantic scenarios that she heard/read about and silently expected from me without outright saying it. If you are waiting for these outrageous gestures in order for you to fall in love, you might find your life disappointing. I'm not punished you, that's just how I roll.

I hate the Quote thing, when they repeat things you said in the past and try to use them against you even if it's from years ago and taken out of context.

It's even happened to me in this forum. It makes me weepy.

Why can't we just get along? Give peace a chance. Free Willy.

what bothers me most is that good-looking women often assume that they're also smart and funny because men are nice to them in order to get into their pants.