08-27-2003, 02:46 PM | #1 (permalink) |
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Would you circumcise your son?
1. Would you circumcise your son?
2. If you are circumcised and had the choice, would'ya keep it that way?
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08-27-2003, 03:31 PM | #5 (permalink) |
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No, but here's the thing..
people have a certain pride about their own bodies. My guess is that about 95% of the people who vote will choose the same choice that was made for them. I'm uncut and wouldn't have it any other way. The US is the only country in the world where the avg girl would consider an uncut dick to be unusual. I don't care about that.. I'm perfectly natural and quite well shaped.. I'd hate to see what I looked like cut.
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08-27-2003, 03:54 PM | #9 (permalink) |
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definately not... do you know why babies don't cry during circumcision? it's because they go into shock from the pain. no painkillers can be used during the surgery because the child is too young. I've already talk to my girlfriend about this and we've both decided that our boys definately don't need anything cut off.
EDIT: Also, i'm not sure if many people know how circumcision became a common practice in the usa. Forgive me, but I don't remember the names or years, it was quite a long time ago that I read the article, but it began with a wealthy man who's son had some sort of infection in his foreskin/penis. Anyways, long story short, doctors suggested cutting the foreskin on his son's penis. They cut it, the son made a perfect recovery. They didn't really understand why he had the infection but in the years following, circumcision became the wonder cure for cleanliness and the number one preventive medicine in the country. The idea behind it is, cut off the skin because something bad MIGHT happen. By that logic we should pull out our teeth because we MIGHT let them rot so bad that they'll become infected. Last edited by Kulsonv2; 08-27-2003 at 04:08 PM.. |
08-27-2003, 04:00 PM | #10 (permalink) |
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i'm cut, and i certainly wouldn't force it on my son.
a question to people who do it for health reasons: yes, i'm aware that foreskin can get dirty, but so can children's hands, would you cut them off as well, or would you teach your child to wash his hands?
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08-27-2003, 04:26 PM | #11 (permalink) |
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that's one way to put it, daoist.
My reasoning is this: We are all born with it. There is an evolutionary REASON why we have it. With proper hygeine, it is never a problem. The scar tissue created by a circumcision can cause some bending later in life when the kid goes through puberty. If done improperly, it can actually shorten the penis at full erection due to tightness of the skin. Go foreskin.
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08-27-2003, 04:31 PM | #12 (permalink) |
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No, I woudln't circumsize my son.
I am circumsized and would probably rather be uncut. I've thought about it before and it just seems like it would be more natural. Not to mention kinda cool maybe?
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08-27-2003, 04:47 PM | #14 (permalink) |
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If I stay in the US, then yes. I don't think it makes much difference either way physically, and he will have less hygene problems and won't stand out as 'unusual' in a country where most people are circumcised.
I am circumcised, but my brother is not. I guess my parents were hedging their bets.
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08-27-2003, 09:19 PM | #23 (permalink) | |
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I am not and niether is my 6 month old son.
There is NO need to cut off the foreskin. There used to be when hygene was not as good as it is now... its a cruel thing to do and there is no reason anymore. Also... I think that a penis head with a foresekin is more senstive due to the cover it has. So I would guess (I'm guessing becuase I have a foreskin) so better sexual pleasure for an uncut man.
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08-27-2003, 09:54 PM | #26 (permalink) |
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I am and I would most likely do it to my son. I know its not hurting anything, but it was one less thing to think about. If my wife has a valid argument or just doesn't want it done then I'll leave him uncut.
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08-27-2003, 10:03 PM | #29 (permalink) |
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Im cut and I would do it to my children. I have many reasons, cleanlisness amoung them. Personnaly I find people like the above poster (Prince) obnoxiouse, your not butchering them. Do you want to clean the gunk out of an old mans dick? Well thats what nurses have to do and apparently its one of the most horrible jobs possible. Ill do it for vanity, cleanliness and saving someones sanity.
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08-27-2003, 10:46 PM | #30 (permalink) |
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Okay, first of all, there is no proven health advantage to circumcision. It is based on religion, period. Second, why do you ask if I want to "clean the gunk out of an old man's dick"? What does that have to do with anything? As for nursing, if you can't wipe an old man's arse either then you picked the wrong profession, did you not?
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08-27-2003, 11:06 PM | #31 (permalink) |
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I have two sons.
Neither are circumsized. Keeping a foreskin clean is roughly the same amount of work as keeping a vulva clean. As in any medical procedure, there is a risk of a mistake. Yeah statistically small, but some poor kids are part of those statistics. Would you want your son to be improperly cut? Circumcision is not medically neccesary. A brand new being comes into this world & one of the first things we do is inflict pain on him? WTF? |
08-27-2003, 11:24 PM | #32 (permalink) |
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For people talking about uncut cocks getting dirty:
I would say, since you are here...with access to a computer & the Internet ...reading this...you can clean your cock well enough that cleanliness is not an issue. If your situation does not allow you to clean your penis well enough that you would get infections, YOU ARE ONE DIRTY FREAK and circumcision should not one of your top priorities. In other words, the cleanliness argument for circumcision is BS. How about respecting a kid's body as if he were actually human. |
08-28-2003, 01:41 AM | #33 (permalink) |
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Good God.
Halx has it totally correct when he says that people will always gravitate to justifying and choosing again, their 'choices' of the past. circumcision could be justified completely on health grounds maybe,100 years ago? it was debatable 50 years ago. Today, with the standards of cleanliness the general populations of first world countries have adopted, there's NO health reason to be cut. FACT. The only reasons you're mutilating - for that is what it is, a socially accepted mutilation - the flesh of your infant son, is either that you had it done, so it's good enough for your son or for your own religious beliefs. The first reason is, of course, stupid. The second reason, of course, is debatable. I think it's incredibly sad that you violate the intactness(?) of your baby child, as well as removing a rather fabulous source of sexual pleasure from your son, WITHOUT HIS INFORMED CONSENT, forever. Home correction, drink driving, arbitrary execution and imprisonment, women's disenfranchisement, slavery, racism and indeed female circumcision. All, to a greater or lesser degree, are barbaric practices that are being, or have been, wiped out. Things can and should change. Circumcision is outdated and outmoded, inflicted on babies for nonsensical, social reasons. It's barbaric. It's abuse.
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08-28-2003, 04:18 AM | #34 (permalink) | |
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wow. THAT made me feel like shit. i am, and my two sons are. the main reason my wife & i chose to go with circumcision was not religious. we just thought it would be confusing to explain why daddy looks different from son #1. once that decision was made, it just kind of followed for #2 for the same reason, except now more so (daddy AND my big brother are different?). had i known how traumatic it would be sending my boys away to be cut on their second day in this world, i probably wouldn't have done it.
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08-28-2003, 04:29 AM | #35 (permalink) |
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yeah its cleaner, but it feels better with it on.
so no and no edit: but its an outdated argument for it, its not needed at all. we have come so far in this world that you can pefectly well keep your dick a clean dick without any problem. and for the post up there that said it would be too sensitive.. no way... no way.. it feels better.. but dont make up some illusion of extrem pleasure to reason why its being taken (chopped) off. and as good as everyone with an european background (in europe), besides jews, does not have their foreskin sliced away. and taking it away is just stupid... really... especialy because its done at birth, if you find a reason for it when you grow up, then do it.. but dont do it to a kid thats too you to choose for himself.
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08-28-2003, 05:25 AM | #38 (permalink) |
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If I remember correctly, Mr.S wasn't cut until later in life... like his early teens or something. He has a lot of scar tissue from that. I know that he wishes that he wasn't cut.
Before I decided to spend the rest of my life with Mr.S, I was intending on having my sons cut. Why? Cuz everybody else is doing it, and I didn't want them to feel weird or different. Mr.S has given me a different perspective. They're going to feel different anyway, simply because of their advanced intelligence and startling good looks. I was a certified nursing assistant in high school and I had to clean an uncut old guy every day. It wasn't any dirtier than the other dicks I had to clean. Just different. Sure, I fumbled a bit the first time, but once I got used to how the foreskin could be pulled back, it was simple. So I vote no. It's not a necessary procedure. It's quite silly actually.
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