tolinka

There is this chick I know, Im 18 shes 21(lets call her B). Ive known here for a about two years now, but we just said hi and bye, a little flirtation here and there, a little bit chat on the AIM (Its the devil), so we were kinda friends...In the last few weeks, we got to see each other much more, but nothing between us, she was trying to hook me up with her cousin from israel visiting here(Im originally from Israel). So the two of us spent alot of time together and we got closer.

The israeli girl left last week, so me and B kept on talking on AIM. Tonight B invited me to go chill with her and her friend (which I think likes me, but I could be wrong like usual). We chatted for an hour and went our ways home.
I take shower chill, and then B sends me a message. We talked a little, and "Ice Cream" came up, she was like I want Ice Cream(remember it was 1230am). I was like go get some, she said you get some, first I thought we were jjust joking, but then after a few more chats, she was like "You coming?", I said yes. She says" You got my cell right? when you get closer to my house, call me."

So I was off to go, snuck out, pushed my car out of the driveway, started it up, and went to get some Ice Cream, with hope for some bootie later...I get closer to her house, call her, she invites me in, and say" I didnt know if you were serious or not..." So I feel really @#%$ now, my response "I had to go to my old house anyways so I stopped by". She was like "You are really crazy(with a cute smile)..." Blah blah blah...we went upstairs, ate some Ice Cream, she implied that she usually sleeps at this hour, so I said Im going to finish this and leave then....and I did. She made me feel like I was intruding or something, so I didnt feel comftroble with her anymore, remember it was 1am.

Any thoughts on this one?

PS: I forgot to mention that she also has a bf, I dont really know whats the deal there though...thought it be usefull.

Mephisto2

She was waiting for you to jump her.

Mr Mephisto

aintyoboyfriend

I agree. Some women do this to see if a guy has confidence. Will he make a move? Or will he drive over here at 1AM and then just eat the ice cream and leave?

angela146

As much as it really bugs me to say this, they may be right. There really are a lot of women who can't bring themselves to say "yes" or to say, "so get a clue and fuck me, damn you".

Part of me would like to suggest that you talk it out with her and ask her to share her feelings, but part of me knows that she might really want to be passive and give herself some deniability. The idea is that if she doesn't suggest it, she isn't as guilty (in her own mind). After all, it wasn't her idea.

On the other hand, she might be playing you, waiting for you to go just so far. Once you do, she might claim that you completely mis-understood her. If that's the case, I'll revoke her PMS license.

You have at least five options:

1. Talk to her and try to find out if she will tell you what's up. That might not get you anywhere.
2. Be gentle: Make a few small moves. Touch her hand, hold her hand, give her a shoulder massage, kiss her, give her a foot massage. Take very small steps, one at at time and don't move too quickly. At each step, see if she says no or pulls away. If she is passive and does nothing, ask her if she likes it. Odds are, she will say something like "It's OK" and frustrate the hell out of you.

If she says *anything* that resembles "no" (e.g. stop, don't, wait, hold it, um...) then back off immediately. Otherwise keep going and know that you are playing a game.

3. Be aggressive: same as number 2 but make bolder moves. You will either get shot down faster or you will be "successful" faster. Again, If she says *anything* that resembles "no" (e.g. stop, don't, wait, hold it, um... what's going on?) then back off immediately.

Note: The following two options are in case you don't want to "play the game" and are willing to risk loosing out on getting closer to her.

4. be up front with her: tell her what I said above and ask her if that's what's going on. There is a very slim chance that she will say, "yeah, that's about right". She is 99% likely to say "no" in some way and maybe you can read something from how she says "no".

5. ignore her. Wait for her to make the next move. Problem is that she might not and she might get tired of waiting for you to do something.

Konichiwaneko

wow...I've never had to push my car out of the driveway to see a girl

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onetime2

She was either testing or teasing you. Gotta jump at the chances as you don't get many do -overs.

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tolinka

Since I completly cant figure out what the hell happened that night...I decided to forget about and not talk to her for a while, and wait for her to initiate the contact with me first...

But today I was thinking that maybe she thinks that Im not intrested, or that she scared me off...and I think if I do talk to her it will make her more curious am I intrested or am I not....I could be wrong though...Cant play games for shit...

JStrider

its quite an interesting experience... my driveways inclined so i just had to put it in neutral and let it coast a house or 2 down before i started it...

shoot i even learned how to disengage the chain on the automatic garage door so i could open it slowly and not make a lot of noise opening it to get it open...

one time i was driving down to her house... and i saw my friend riding his bike to his girls house...(he had been busted by his mom several times and she drives a white suv kinda like what i was drivin) so i flip a U turn and start following him and he freaks out big time... and i pull up and just start laughing my ass off... i nearly died from laughing... it was awesome...

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Leviathan[NCV]

Yeah, you missed a good chance there. Good luck getting it back

Jonsgirl

Yeah, she wanted you. But any woman who plays games with you like that (I mean, really! You drove to get the ho some freaking ice-cream in the middle of the night!!!) is seriously screwy. Don't waste your time with her.

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captain4077

When I was in high school, I had to push the car down the driveway so my parents wouldn't hear it. It is a long driveway too.

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analog

yeah... unfortunately it sounds like what happened was she tested you and you failed... it's not your fault, it's a female trick. they don't want to have to say yes or be forward, because that would make them feel less pure, or like a whore, or the like... but if you are confident and lead them towards it, your confidence might a) be a huge turn-on anyway and b) shows you're worthy. Many girls like the confidence thing. A little self-assurance goes a long way.

Next time you have the chance to go to her house at such a late hour, make all the moves (but be careful of a no, if a girl says no you STOP, i don't care what games you think she's playing.) and guage her responses. If she smiles when you get close, you're likely in. Sit as close to her as you can. Make sure you smell good. I recommend AXE brand "deoderant" (don't use it as a deoderant, but it's a GREAT spray as a cologne-type addition) called "Kilo" (there are several AXE scents, but Kilo is THE one) if you're in the States, and "Africa" everywhere else. Girls go fucking NUTS over it. <b>USE A CONDOM- BRING THEM WITH YOU ALL THE TIME.</b> When you feel like you're about to seal the deal but she's still struggling with something, it might be because she isn't sure you're prepared (have a condom) so something like leaning in and whispering into her ear over kisses, "I always do it safe" or something to that effect will let her know you plan on using protection and alleviate that fear.

If you finally get clearance, fuck her hard, fuck her long- like my friend Matt once told me... "HIT IT... hit it like it owes you money!!" (referring to the vagina, not the girl). Do it right and you'll have to buy stock in Ben and Jerry's (or Edy's if you prefer).

motdakasha

Personally, I think it could have just been a friend hanging out thing, not a booty call. I often hang out with people late at night and will leave or tell them to go away once I start getting tired or the fun time is over. While it's nice to have someone spend time with you before bed/late at night, it also can be easily misinterpretted.

Communicate.

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lemming

well this makes me think of that sienfeld episode where the girl george is dating asks him to come up for coffee at 1230am and he says " i dont drink coffee this late it keeps me up" and then goes home only to realize that coffee didnt mean coffee.=\


id have to agree that she was just waiting for you to make a move and that she was just to shy or whatever to initiate anything.

sltkr2000

one thing you have to learn a simple touch to th ehand, elbo, or back while around her while flirtng, would give you a rsponse of content, confort or dislike..if she is content she is jsut a friend, if she dislike tha means she does not like to be touched. and a sign of pleasure, and confort, that means you should work on the next base so you can get some botie.. and never leave an opputunity if it is there, you must learn that...

but you can keep trying, flirt some more, give her a lot of attention. women anywhere like that..

quantumburnz

Sounds to me like you have one of those girls on your hands that really likes to make you work. I spent a long time with one of those, way too long. If it doesn't work, don't draw it out.

I'm still curious... Why did you have to push your car out of the driveway? You're 18...

numberfive

House rules maybe? As long as you're in the house you have to be home by "so and so time" I reckon.

And I also thought about the Seinfeld episode with George and the coffee. Made me chuckle.

Anyways, just ask her "What was that ice cream thing all about?" It gets the point across directly. Communication is key.

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tolinka

House rules...during the week, on weekends, im free as bird...almost.

yournamehere

My first thought, also.
<i>"Coffee doesn't mean coffee?"</i>

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skysooner

This has only really happened to me one time. There was this girl who invited me in to sit on her bed after a first date and look at pictures. She basically just sat back and watched me go through them. I know she wanted me to jump her, and normally I would have except for two things. I had met her and my future wife through a personal ad I placed in a local paper. It turns out the two of them knew each other (not friends but acquaintances). I went out with my future wife first and liked her enough that I didn't want to possibly mess anything up by messing around with someone she knew. Second, she was not very attractive (about a 3 on a 10 scale).

tolinka

Hmm...well this girl is very attractive....(9 on a scale of 10) The body is defenetly a ten! So I missed out.....

soxsfans

gotta call her up dude.
Next time tell you have some cream for her, but its not ice.....

Plan9Senior

You just left?? The girl invites you over at 1 am for some "ice cream" I cant believe you actually showed up with ice cream Next time that happens, show up without the ice cream and make your move immediately. Sigh, I guess you live and learn.

S2KBobby

Yup she definately was interested in you. I think the idea of leaving her couldn't be all that bad. If she really wanted you she is even more interested now, and if she didn't want you, then you have proven yourself worthy of her respect for not trying and being refused.
Either way you won buddy.

ibis

Way to dig up nearly a year old thread...

I thought I was the only one that did this... lol.

My first truck was a standard. That sucker was soooo easy to push. Later, when I got an automatic, I built some serious leg muscles. (yes I put it in nuetral, it was simply harder to push)

I lean towards the idea that she wanted you that night. If she asks again, come prepaired.

dirtyrascal7

hmmmmm...

1. i think your logic is flawed. if she did want him, he failed the test because it was far beyond the point where they were teasing each other... it was time to back it up. if she didn't want him, well... they were already friends, why would he need to further prove himself worthy of her respect?

2. this thread is 10 months old... i'm sure this is a moot point now anyway.

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Buk

a 10 month bump to give advice?

So, anyone have an update, did you call her up and tell you have ice cream with NO ICE?

Skettios

Same thing here dude. Those were the days. All I needed was my mazda B2200 pickup truck and adolescent hormones. Living in a small town helped too.

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Jam

see, i read the title and thought it was one of those, man what happened last night, type of questions.. those are good sometimes

iflyadash8

That was a total booty call dude!! You missed out. At least you know for next time. I had the same situation when I was away at work. I lived in work provided housing, and all us guys living in the house had a party with local girls over one night and one of them wanted to see my room. Or course, I let her see and she started talking about nothing and proceeded to sit on my bed still talking about nothing and giving me "the look." Mind you that I am married and didn't act on it, I still knew exactly what was going on.